Dr. Bruce Ivins, anthrax scientist was murdered by The CIA

[MichaelScott]

all i can say joe is i hope "they" pay good

that was a quality rant

I have provided multiple links to CIA operations and projects in this thread. JoeyC fails to read them, or maybe he just doesn't respond to them. Those projects are all declassified information that shows the government (The CIA) did and still does experiments or kill(ed) innocent Americans domestically. If that is what Joe stands for, Hitler has position open for him and Vice President.

There is proof the CIA uses the media to disrupt the flow of truthful information, as in Operation Mockingbird.

Project Artichoke
MKUltra
Operation Midnight Climax
Project MKNAOMI

Dr. Bruce Ivins did not commit suicide. The anthrax letters were not mailed by Dr. Bruce Ivins. Thankfully, with high speed real time communications and enough people who question the bullshit we are fed, there may be hope for a little bit of "The Truth" that we are seeking.

I don't care what goes on abroad at The Salt Pit, or in Iran with Operation Ajax, or in Iran and The Middle East in curent times or other various locations, I am only concearned about getting justice for innocent people that died and were scared DOMESTICALLY. That is terrorism.

 

[MichaelScott]

Err...it's pretty much always called an "apparent suicide" until the case is closed.

And the case isn't closed, is it. And it shouldn't be. There needs to be a Commission on this matter. Unclassified and televised for all the Americans to see. Just like the Iran-Contra Scandal.

 

[MichaelScott]

Source: Associated Press - http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5icCsDXbi3Yojuvo5W4j01VxWio0wD92CDS6O0


Exhibit #1 - The FBI was trying to just close the case

Before killing himself last week, Army scientist Bruce Ivins told friends that government agents had stalked him and his family for months, offered his son $2.5 million to rat him out and tried to turn his hospitalized daughter against him with photographs of dead anthrax victims.

Exhibit #2 - The FBI was trying to just close the case

In the current case, Ivins complained privately that FBI agents had offered his son, Andy, $2.5 million, plus "the sports car of his choice" late last year if he would turn over evidence implicating his father in the anthrax attacks, according to a former U.S. scientist who described himself as a friend of Ivins.


Exhibit #3 - No one wants to talk about the CIA's involvement for fear of being "green lighted"

Dr. W. Russell Byrne, a friend and former supervisor of Ivins at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., said he had heard from other Ivins associates that investigators were going after Ivins' daughter. But Byrne said those conversations were always short because people were afraid to talk.

Exhibit #4 - Ivins had a Polygraph, he was throughly investigated prior to having his high clearances

"I think I'm the only person at USAMRIID who didn't get polygraphed," he said.


Exhibit #5 - Ivins knew he was being followed, The The FBI just wanted to close the case. They had a Black eye from t he Hatfield Settlement

"One of the FBI agents who helped run the anthrax investigation, Robert Roth, said FBI Director Robert Mueller had expressed frustration with the pace of the investigation. He also acknowledged that, under FBI guidelines, targets of surveillance aren't supposed to know they're being followed."

Exhibit #6 - The FBI has made many mistakes in the past. Costing Tax payers a lot of money. They are clearly not competen to take on terrorism cases.

"In 2004, the FBI wrongly arrested lawyer Brandon Mayfield after the Madrid terrorist bombings, due to a misidentified fingerprint. The Justice Department's internal watchdog faulted the bureau for sloppy work. Spanish authorities had doubted the validity of the fingerprint match, but the U.S. government initiated a lengthy investigation, eventually settling with Mayfield for $2 million."

 

[MichaelScott]

Released 1 hour ago...

"Anthrax widow's lawsuit blames US for death". $50M smackaroos that tax payers will probably have to fork out in a settlement case. Wow.

Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iYq-3oDjg7-cA3vuv_cEAd1w7Q7wD92CD3SO0

 

[MichaelScott]

Source: Baltimore Sun - http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.anthrax05aug05,0,7051572.story

"Doubts about anthrax story"

 

[MichaelScott]

Source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

"This morning, I spoke with Rep. Holt for roughly 20 minutes. During the discussion, Rep. Holt:

• indicated his support for the creation of an investigative body, with full subpoena power, along the lines of the 9/11 Commission, to investigate all unresolved aspects of the anthrax attacks;
• enumerated the many reasons why a rational person would lack confidence in the the FBI's investigative abilities;
• complained that the FBI has continuously "stonewalled" both him and all other members of Congress, for years, as they tried to exercise oversight over the FBI's investigation into the anthrax case;
• declared that nobody should conclude, without much further proof, that the actual anthrax killer has been identified.

 

[MichaelScott]

Feds expected to release the evidence on the anthrax case today. Just be forewarned, their will probably be some elaborate answer about how this happened.

Don't be naive my fellow Americans. This has nothing to do with one political party. Just a few people in The US Government who have/had an agenda and used the CIA as a tool to disrupt the domestic security and alter our perceptions to ensure their agendas were accomplished.

 

[MichaelScott]

Foxnews reporting is the worst of them all. They erroneously titled this "Federal Judge releases" making one think they were already released to get more readers to read the terrible article.

Americans, don't let this case slip away unnoticed. Releasing "sealed" papers is not good enough. A hearing under oath and televised is THE MINIMUM you should be asking for from your senators and lawmakers.


Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398483,00.html

The documents that Lamberth authorized to be released include at least 14 search warrants aimed at Army microbiologist Bruce Ivins, whom federal investigators were closing in on as he committed suicide last week. The records include the government summaries used to justify the search warrants, the warrants themselves and summaries of what FBI agents seized in each search.
Among other things, the papers are expected to reveal how the FBI narrowed the scope of its investigation to the Fort Detrick, Md., scientist.
The evidence that Lamberth authorized to be made public should answer many questions in the bizarre investigation. Still, skeptics may never be satisfied if the documents fail to show conclusively that Ivins was solely responsible for mailing the anthrax letters that killed five and sickened 17.

 

[CapNCash]

"Anthrax widow's lawsuit blames US for death". $50M smackaroos that tax payers will probably have to fork out in a settlement case. Wow.

Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iYq-3oDjg7-cA3vuv_cEAd1w7Q7wD92CD3SO0

Government Agencies have private insurance.

 

[MichaelScott]

Government Agencies have private insurance.

Capn,

You got a link I can read more on that? How are those insurance payments to those insurance agencies you mention paid for? And the government workers that will need to testify, are they are paid how?

 

[Dilrod]

This is one reason I hate the mass media. I gotta put up with all these shmucks with poo for brains who have no fucking clue what the current events are. The circumstances behind this death are HIGHLY suspicious, if you can't see that, heres another dose of Fox, enjoy getting your brains scrambled.

 

[MichaelScott]

This is one reason I hate the mass media. I gotta put up with all these shmucks with poo for brains who have no fucking clue what the current events are. The circumstances behind this death are HIGHLY suspicious, if you can't see that, heres another dose of Fox, enjoy getting your brains scrambled.

Glad to hear another American (You) doesn't buy what he hears or reads in the news.

Careful though, those with 10,000+ posts in this forum will quickly discredit your convictions because you have less posts than them. Always a good tactic to shut people up, when they don't want to believe what is MORE likely to be the truth.

 

[MichaelScott]

CNN to have the news on this case pretty soon. Apparently they are going to release all the (CIA planted) evidence very very shortly.

 

[MichaelScott]

News sources supposedly now have the "documents of evidence". I would imagine they are not too much of a "slam dunk" as the feds have made them out to be, otherwise they would have already reported this.

This case is a severe case of CIA BLOWBACK. I would imagine that CIA cables worldwide are chatting overtime with this case. It wouldn't suprise me if a former spooks call the CIA out on this. Way too obvious that the CIA spooks were involved in this incident. Rogue agent? Maybe. Most likely a covert op though, done at the highest levels of government. I don't even think Senators and such knew about this operation.

 

[MichaelScott]

:lolBIG:

They have an "email he sent". I find that REAL believable. A scientist so stupid to send an incriminating traceable email. Wow. I am shocked.

I am sure Dr. Bruce Ivins typed this email and there wasn't a "keyboard" logger that got his passwords to know his logins. Afterall, STILL NO MENTION of Dr. Phillip Zack. After all, Dr. Zack is of no importance because he only had access to the facility, the samples, Dr. Ivins PC, Dr. Ivins address and personal info, etc



I demand to see the email headers of the email (file). Every single 1 and 0 binary digit.

Sad day for America.

 

[MichaelScott]

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[MichaelScott]

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[MichaelScott]

Ignore the first 2 minutes of the 9/11 conspiracy crap I don't believe in. Watch about 2 minutes and after.


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[MichaelScott]

Live in CNN now!

 

[MichaelScott]

Amazing. This press conference is the worst one I have ever seen. No pictures of the email he supposedly wrote. No proof it was written by Dr. Bruce Ivins. No physical evidence. What a weak case.



Watch carefully how they will repeat his name, then formulate questions with it, to get it in your brain. This is called "Active Recall".