Dr. Bruce Ivins, anthrax scientist was murdered by The CIA

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the MSM makes it sound fairly convincing the to the casual viewer

this article will likely be in most major newspapers tomorrow....

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US: Ivins solely responsible for anthrax attacks

By LARA JAKES JORDAN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON - Bruce Ivins, a brilliant yet deeply troubled Army scientist, was solely responsible for the anthrax attacks that killed five and rattled the nation in 2001, the government declared Wednesday, alleging he had custody of the lethal spores involved and access to the distinctive envelopes used to mail them.
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Ivins, who committed suicide last week, submitted false anthrax samples to the FBI to throw investigators off his trail and was unable to provide "an adequate explanation for his late laboratory work hours" around the time of the attacks, according to documents that officials made public to support their case.

Investigators also said he sought to frame unnamed co-workers and had immunized himself against anthrax and yellow fever in early September 2001, several weeks before the first anthrax-laced envelope was received in the mail.

Ivins killed himself last week as investigators closed in, and U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Taylor said at a Justice Department news conference, "We regret that we will not have the opportunity to present evidence to the jury."

Ivins' attorney, Paul Kemp, has repeatedly asserted his late client's innocence, and Taylor conceded the evidence was largely if not wholly circumstantial.

The prosecutor's news conference capped a fast-paced series of events in which the government partially lifted its veil of secrecy in the investigation of the poisonings that followed closely after the airliner terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The newly released records depict Ivins as deeply troubled, increasingly so as he confronted the possibility of being charged.

"He said he was not going to face the death penalty, but instead had a plan to kill co-workers and other individuals who had wronged him," according to one affidavit. In e-mails to colleagues, Ivins described a feeling of dual personalities, the material said.

Ivins had sole custody of highly purified anthrax spores with "certain genetic mutations identical" to the poison used in the attacks, according to an affidavit among a stack of documents the government released, all seemingly pointing to his guilt. Investigators also said they had traced back to his lab the type of envelopes used to send the deadly powder through the mails.

The FBI's investigation had dragged on for years, tarnishing the reputation of the agency in the process. Investigators had long focused on Steven J. Hatfill, whose career as a bioscientist was ruined after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft named him a "person of interest" in 2002. The government recently paid $6 million to settle a lawsuit by Hatfill, who worked in the same lab as Ivins.

Taylor said Wednesday that investigators concluded in 2005 that Hatfill couldn't have had access to a crucial flask of anthrax spores.

The prosecutor called the flask the murder weapon in the worst case of bioterror in the nation's history.

Authorities say that language Ivins used in an e-mail days before a second round of anthrax attacks was similar to the messages in anthrax-laced letters received soon after by Democratic Sens. Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy.

In the e-mail, Ivins wrote that "Bin Laden terrorists for sure have anthrax and sarin gas" and have "just decreed death to all Jews and all Americans." The letters to Daschle and Leahy said: "WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX . . . DEATH TO AMERICA . . . DEATH TO ISRAEL."

Wednesday's documents were released as FBI Director Robert Mueller met privately with families of the victims of the attacks to lay out the evidence officials said the agency was preparing to close the case.

As for motive, investigators seemed to offer two possible reasons for the attacks: that the brilliant scientist wanted to bolster support for a vaccine he helped create and that the anti-abortion Catholic targeted two pro-choice Catholic lawmakers.

"We are confident that Dr. Ivins was the only person responsible for these attacks," Taylor told a news conference at the Justice Department.

Noting that Ivins would have been entitled to a presumption of innocence, Taylor nevertheless said prosecutors were confident "we could prove his guilt to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt."

The events in Washington unfolded as a memorial service was held for Ivins at Fort Detrick, the secret government installation in Frederick, Md., where he worked. Reporters were barred.

More than 200 pages of documents were made public by the FBI, virtually all of them describing the government's attempts to link Ivins to the crimes.

"It is a very compelling case," said Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., who attended a briefing for lawmakers and staff.

The government material describes at length painstaking scientific efforts to trace the source of the anthrax that was used in the attacks.

It says that in his lab, Ivins had custody of a flask of anthrax termed "the genetic parent" to the powder involved — a source that investigators say was used to grow spores for the attacks on "at least two separate occasions."

Anthrax culled from the letters was quickly discovered to be the so-called Ames strain of bacteria, but with genetic mutations that made it distinct. Scientists developed more sophisticated tests for four of those mutations, and concluded that all the samples that matched came from a single batch, code-named RMR-1029, stored at Fort Detrick.

Ivins "has been the sole custodian of RMR-1029 since it was first grown in 1997," said one affidavit.

Powder from anthrax-laden letters sent to the New York Post and Tom Brokaw of NBC contained a bacterial contaminant not found in the anthrax-containing envelopes mailed to Sens. Patrick Leahy or Tom Daschle, the affidavit said.

Investigators concluded that "the contaminant must have been introduced during the production of the Post and Brokaw spores," the affidavit said.

The documents disclosed that authorities searched Ivins' home on Nov. 2, 2007, taking 22 swabs of vacuum filters and radiators and seizing dozens of items. Among them were video cassettes, family photos, information about guns and a copy of "The Plague" by Albert Camus.

Investigators also reported seizing three cardboard boxes labeled "Paul Kemp ... attorney client privilege."

Ivins' cars and his safe deposit box also were searched as investigators closed in on the respected government scientist who had been troubled by mental health problems for years.

According to an affidavit filed by Charles B. Wickersham, a postal inspector, the scientist told an unnamed co-worker "that he had `incredible paranoid, delusional thoughts at times' and 'feared that he might not be able to control his behavior.'"

A mental health worker who was involved in treating Ivins disclosed last week that she was so concerned about his behavior that she recently sought a court order to keep him away from her.

Allegations that Ivins sought to mislead investigators ran through the material made public.

One FBI document said Ivins "repeatedly named other researchers as possible mailers and claimed that the anthrax used in the attacks resembled that of another researcher" at the same facility.

The name of the other researcher was not disclosed.

The documents painted a picture of Ivins seeking to mislead investigators beginning in 2002, when he allegedly submitted the wrong samples to FBI investigators.

It wasn't until more than two years later, in March 2005, that he was confronted with the alleged switch, according to U.S. Postal Inspector Thomas Dellafera, who added that Ivins insisted he had not sought to deceive.

The victims of the attacks had little in common.

Robert Stevens, 63, a photo editor at the Sun, a supermarket tabloid published in Boca Raton, Fla., was the first to die. Thomas Morris Jr. 55, and Joseph Curseen, 47, worked at a Washington-area postal facility that was a hub for sorting the capital's mail. Kathy Nguyen, 61, who had emigrated from Vietnam and lived in the Bronx, worked in a stock room at Manhattan Eye Ear & Throat Hospital. Ottilie Lundgren, 94, who lived in Oxford, Conn., was the last to die.
 

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So here is how it works.

Pre-Anthrax letters.. THE SENATE (I stand corrected) was 49/49, a split.. with the tie going to Republicans because Dick Cheney was the VP. The VP gets the tie breaker vote. But what happened is a LONE independent, sided with the Democrats. That made it 50-49 and if all voted ALONG PARTY lines, there would be no Dick Cheney vote needed and no Patriot Act gets passed.

Fast forward PAST 9-11-2001 and the anthrax letters are sent by the CIA under order of "someone" in The Bush Administration under covert umbrella that even the smartest of Senators did not know of.

The anthrax letters go to the RANKING majority leader, Senator Tom Daschle who is control of the one chamber of Congress that the Bush Administration does not have control of anymore, becuase the 49/49 split and the lone independent who sided with the Democrats making it 49/50. That lone independent was none other than Dean Barley. The Anthrax letters scared Tom Daschle and all opposing members of H.R. 2975, to sign off on it for fear of being killed "by a foreign terrist like osama bin laden who has anthrax".

That is the motive behind "why" The Bush Adminsitration ordered the covert operation. To pass legislature. God forbid we actually vote democratically, right?

Sound interesting? Make sense? It (sending the anthrax letters strategically) was to create a power shift.
 

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And the only guy who could testify under oath before congress about who accessed, could access, and would access his samples and how this crime could be done by The CIA, is none other than Dr. Bruce Ivins.


Now Deceased.

So that is why it is pertinent we find out who Dr. Phillip Zack is and why we call a Congressional Commission on this matter.

The only one left to testify is Dr. Assad. And he may be dead real soon too.
 

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the MSM makes it sound fairly convincing the to the casual viewer

this article will likely be in most major newspapers tomorrow....

run along nothing to see here

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Tiz,

The American people cannot know about the truth right now. Our economy would be in SHAMBLES. The faith in our leaders would be zero. It would be a sad day for America, for Americans to know the truth.

So even the major media doesn't want to report even the most obvious suspicions.

This would cost millions of dollars in money to hold these hearings. 1000's of witnesses, years of testimony. It would be UGLY.
 

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tiz knows this much....

i'm just an aware observer....

you almost dragged me down the economic rant alley my forte but i'll stay on subject...i'll leave that for the other thread...LOL

keep up the good work....
 

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Thanks for all your hard 'work', Michael.

I have forwarded this thread to the appropriate authority(s) and media outlets (the ones on my side, not yours). I just did it for my own shits and giggles cause for some strange reason you rub me the wrong way. Shit happens.

Just a wild guess but if this gains any traction in the mainstream you'll be forced to come out of your closet and stand by your asinine assertions. Then the real fun begins. Media will be hounding you 24/7 demanding answers -- and that's just the warm up. I wouldn't want to speculate the legal ramifications beyond such a point but I'll have the popcorn ready nonetheless.

I'll say this much. If you decided to bet your house on this crackpot 'theory' you'd lose BIG.

Have a nice day.

:howdy:

Tizdoom, the 'spike' in traffic is because "Michael" is circulating this thread in various forums and blogs on the net. For some reason he has decided to make the Rx his "homebase" for his personal conspiracy blog. I doubt this will penetrate anything beyond Art Bell, but have no doubt the internet Ron Paul kooks will be all over it. You remember the "cell phone" polls, don't you? :nohead:
 

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tiz knows this much....

i'm just an aware observer....

you almost dragged me down the economic rant alley my forte but i'll stay on subject...i'll leave that for the other thread...LOL

keep up the good work....

Thanks. I'll jive with you on economics one day in another thread. I used to like reading Woof for economic, but haven't seen him around. He is very knowledgeable. I am weak in the economic area.

That is how you have to be, take into consideration what people are stating, then do you own research. Then formulate an opinion. Too many Americans let "The Media" or "The Government" do their thinking. It is easier that way for them.

I almost always IMMEDIATELY get dismissed in debates when I admit I am a Ron Paul supporter. I think political affiliation is irrelevant in most cases.

So... back on topic...

The CIA MURDERED Dr. Bruce Ivins. This was because they were charged with a covert operation to mail out anthrax laced letters to innocent Americans. The reason Dr. Bruce Ivins was murdered was to cover up any or all testimony about "how" Dr. Bruce Ivins could not have done this crime he is accused of.

We still have no mention in the media of Dr. Phillip Zack (Lt. Col Ret.). Nor do we have any mention of why Col Franz fired Arabic scientists (possibly) from the influence of Dr, Phillip Zack.
 

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Have u got an opinion on the 9/11 truther scenario Michael?
:grandmais
 

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troofer stuff doesn't make joe break out the big guns eekster....for a reason....
 

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Joes on a hiding to nowhere.

The first amendment guarantees the guys right right to free speech.
 

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And if the joo-media or the state-media goes to town on him he'll just become an internet hero.

They'll probbly ignore him.

Lots of othur things going on the noo.
 

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Just be aware of the funny clicks that suddenly appear on your home phoneline.
 

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Just be aware of the funny clicks that suddenly appear on your home phoneline.

It has happened by now. I have my bases covered. Whoever they seem as a threat, they will smear them, make them out to be "evil" or a "bad person" and then ruin their lives. It is barking up the wrong tree. America needs integrity restored. And the preservation of the constitution and America's integrity is what is important here. Not illegal legislature and other terrible things that have happened over the past few years.

I love this country and believe in it. It has worked for almost 300 years. We have become so great. But, A select few in our government have ruined it and hopefully the media will expose them and they will be put on trial so the truth can come out. Who exactly is involved, that is still unknown.
 

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Copy and paste some shakespeare.

PGP it.

And email it to various parties.

http://www.pgpi.org/cgi/download.cgi?filename=PGPFW703.zip

chop chunks out of it
do wee emails and big ones.

Freaks 'em out because of the amount of pooter time it consumes.

Eek, please assist me in doing that. I already know PGP, etc etc. I need more people just getting the word out on how it all maps together.

Rep. Holt is already all over this. He wants hearings and isn't buying this. Congress didn't know anything about this. This is the work of "a few bad apples" within our (The American People's) most trusted entity, The government.
 

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Joes on a hiding to nowhere.

The first amendment guarantees the guys right right to free speech.

Really? Apparently "Michael" doesn't share those beliefs because he tried to have me censored. "Michael," meet Mr. Hypocrite. Mr. Hypocrite, meet "Michael Scott."

eek, I really can't stand treasonists who undermine our national security. And the patriots operating in the field who's lives become endangered from these types of partisan witch hunts have an even greater disdain for them than I do.

I hate irresponsible behavior, but unfortunately it's par for the course for an anonymous keyboard commando like "Michael."

I'm sure there are enough Ron Paul nuts on the net who would champion the Rosenbergs as 'heroes' too -- ya know, back when our elected leaders prosecuted treason as TREASON.

Everything -- and I mean EVERYTHING -- in this thread is pure conjecture and slander. I ask him for evidence, he goes crying to a mod like the whiny unpatriotic coward he is.

It's amazing how many sheeple can be fooled by contrived perception. A guy accumulates a mailing list of a few hundred people, starts a thread in the Rx and then sends out the "call." Wow! 300+ viewers in our little intimate forum, folks! That's a record. What's going on? Why, it must be just like "Michael" said -- "intelligent posting" going on. :missingte

And btw, for anyone who cares. "Michael" is a ghost of a previous poster. I know who you are "Michael" -- the question is, do have any guesses as to *I* am?

Folks, I'm going to post a PUBLIC poll and see how many REAL RX members participate AND how many actually believe you, "Michael."

Your little disruptive stunt is almost over.

:howdy:
 

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Eek, please assist me in doing that. I already know PGP, etc etc. I need more people just getting the word out on how it all maps together.
Let me search for you.

It will be an old version, all the recent stuff suspiciously goes to one site.
:grandmais
 

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