Appears so. I thought Norris pitched last week, but it was 7/4. So if Walker qualified, then it appears Norris would too, at around even money. Those are the limited parameters I'm aware of.
5Dimes has full game at Mariners -109, 1st 5 at -111. With price being close to equal and both bullpens being close statistically over the course of the season (both above average.) I'm throwing some on Mariners 1st 5 to isolate Norris, went whole game earlier on Mets.
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Is Grienke on a pitchcount? Grienke was pretty bad in his last rehab start (not sure if that means anything or not). Cabrera is really the only guy in Mets lineup that has hit him....15 for 35 lifetime. It's hot and humid at Citi Field tonight. Matz is so hit or miss. Zona hits lefties relatively well. Mets lineup worries me though. Team is so bad with runners in scoring position.
Well, alright...in reviewing the results for the return of Zach Greinke and Daniel Norris, both of which were off for just over 1 month+, fading those pitches for the full game was split 1-1, and 0-1-1 for the 1st 5. (I, however, was lucky enough to go 0-2 with my selections taking both the losing full game and the losing 1st 5.) The OVER was 2-0...though I would argue both overs were due more to the bullpens than the returning pitchers performances themselves. Same with opponents TT OVER.
In fact, I would say both pitchers pitched relatively well in their returns (Note: I didn't watch either performance in their entirety, just checking stats.) Greinke had 6K's and 1BB though 6IPs but did leave with his team down 3-2.
Looking now, Norris only had 3 starts this season previous to his layoff, not sure that's relevant but found it curious. He pitched like Daniel Norris, going 5 IP (matching season high), with 2BB but only 3K's. He did only give up 1ER, despite 7 hits, 2BB and a .412 BABIP. So a little lucky more didn't come across, but a little unlucky with his balls in play.
What did we learn? I don't know, bet smaller during a trial run of this sorts? It's only two games but I didn' see much as both pitchers pitched at least "decent". Both pitchers were on the road. Both of the returning pitchers teams were facing lefties and hit lefties well (very well for the DBacks.) It's definitely not just an auto-fade (but nothing is), and as with anything, need to also look at the other variables around the return.
In fact, I would say both pitchers pitched relatively well in their returns (Note: I didn't watch either performance in their entirety, just checking stats.) Greinke had 6K's and 1BB though 6IPs but did leave with his team down 3-2.
Looking now, Norris only had 3 starts this season previous to his layoff, not sure that's relevant but found it curious. He pitched like Daniel Norris, going 5 IP (matching season high), with 2BB but only 3K's. He did only give up 1ER, despite 7 hits, 2BB and a .412 BABIP. So a little lucky more didn't come across, but a little unlucky with his balls in play.
What did we learn? I don't know, bet smaller during a trial run of this sorts? It's only two games but I didn' see much as both pitchers pitched at least "decent". Both pitchers were on the road. Both of the returning pitchers teams were facing lefties and hit lefties well (very well for the DBacks.) It's definitely not just an auto-fade (but nothing is), and as with anything, need to also look at the other variables around the return.
Potentially half-assed Watch List:
Alfredo Simon (CIN)- last start 6/8 (relief app 6/15) - first rehab AAA start 8/7
Danny Salazar (CLV) - last start 8/1 - 15 DL 8/2
Jordan Zimmermann (DET) - Last start 8/4 (1st/only start back from DL) - back on DL 8/5
Jason Vargas (KC) - Last start 7/21/2015 - beginning rehab AAA start 8/8
Mike Minor (KC) - Last start 9/20/14) - rehab AAA start with pitch count 8/7
**Rich Hill (LAD) - Last start 7/17 - plans to return Friday 8/12**
Brett Anderson (LAD) - Last start 10/1/15 - 2nd AAA rehab start 8/8
Bud Norris (LAD) - Last start 7/31 - planning to return when eligible ~mid August/next week
Clayton Kershaw (LAD) last start 6/26 - "starting baseball activities" - who knows but you'll hear it when he's close
Junior Guerra - (MIL) last start 8/3 - 15 DL but may be sidelined longer
1st half of team alphabet...need to do some actual work now.
Alfredo Simon (CIN)- last start 6/8 (relief app 6/15) - first rehab AAA start 8/7
Danny Salazar (CLV) - last start 8/1 - 15 DL 8/2
Jordan Zimmermann (DET) - Last start 8/4 (1st/only start back from DL) - back on DL 8/5
Jason Vargas (KC) - Last start 7/21/2015 - beginning rehab AAA start 8/8
Mike Minor (KC) - Last start 9/20/14) - rehab AAA start with pitch count 8/7
**Rich Hill (LAD) - Last start 7/17 - plans to return Friday 8/12**
Brett Anderson (LAD) - Last start 10/1/15 - 2nd AAA rehab start 8/8
Bud Norris (LAD) - Last start 7/31 - planning to return when eligible ~mid August/next week
Clayton Kershaw (LAD) last start 6/26 - "starting baseball activities" - who knows but you'll hear it when he's close
Junior Guerra - (MIL) last start 8/3 - 15 DL but may be sidelined longer
1st half of team alphabet...need to do some actual work now.
Some pitch well, many don't. Don't judge this off of a couple decent performances. We have already mentioned a couple pitchers that didn't pitch well. Felix comes to mind as a big favorite. Like with any game, sometimes you get a win because the pen blows it. The final score is what matters.
I would much rather fade these pitchers when they are favored or close to even. I wouldn't want to pay much juice fading them when they are dogs. This is another reason why people saying the line doesn't matter in baseball are nuts.
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