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I just took a job working for Qwest. I don't like getting up early. I don't like working 50 hours a week.

That being said, I'm 23 now and need to get my shit together and they are going to pay alot of the money for me to finish the last two years of my computer science degree. Full coverage after a few months of working there, and I'm getting a raise from around the poverty line (I've been lazy) to what many would consider middle class. Almost a 600% raise in my yearly income.

I don't want to sit in a chair all day and talk people into signing up, I'd rather be working with my hands personally, but it's not a bad job and the things that come along with it are well worth it. Like I said, if you want it bad enough, it's not hard to make it happen.
 

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I just took a job working for Qwest. I don't like getting up early. I don't like working 50 hours a week.

That being said, I'm 23 now and need to get my shit together and they are going to pay alot of the money for me to finish the last two years of my computer science degree. Full coverage after a few months of working there, and I'm getting a raise from around the poverty line (I've been lazy) to what many would consider middle class. Almost a 600% raise in my yearly income.

I don't want to sit in a chair all day and talk people into signing up, I'd rather be working with my hands personally, but it's not a bad job and the things that come along with it are well worth it. Like I said, if you want it bad enough, it's not hard to make it happen.

One day I'll buy the RX, then when President Billy Walters takes over, CASH F-ING COW. :thumbsup:
 

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Just because you say its a great example does not make it a great example. First off, i have a problem with someone that is 27 and a waitress. Second, i have a problem with a waitress that can't pull together a couple of hundred bucks a month. Maybe its 400 for some, but i am pretty sure you can get basic healtcoverage for less.

I just don't understand why i have to pay for the health coverage of a 27 year old girl who was not previously disabled.

You have a problem with a 27 year old being a waitress. Who do you want doing this job and do you really thing basic insurance would do much for her?

Who's talking about you're having to pick up the tab on other people's insurance? Socialized medicine isn't the only answer. People abusing the system is the biggest problem.
 

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I just took a job working for Qwest. I don't like getting up early. I don't like working 50 hours a week.

That being said, I'm 23 now and need to get my shit together and they are going to pay alot of the money for me to finish the last two years of my computer science degree. Full coverage after a few months of working there, and I'm getting a raise from around the poverty line (I've been lazy) to what many would consider middle class. Almost a 600% raise in my yearly income.

I don't want to sit in a chair all day and talk people into signing up, I'd rather be working with my hands personally, but it's not a bad job and the things that come along with it are well worth it. Like I said, if you want it bad enough, it's not hard to make it happen.

Its because of you the world is short on waiters! And you walk around flaunting your health coverage in everyones face like you are better than them. You have some nerve!!
 

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You have a problem with a 27 year old being a waitress. Who do you want doing this job and do you really thing basic insurance would do much for her?

Who's talking about you're having to pick up the tab on other people's insurance? Socialized medicine isn't the only answer. People abusing the system is the biggest problem.

Yeah, i have a problem with a 27 year old being a waitress and then asking for free healthcare.
 

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I just took a job working for Qwest. I don't like getting up early. I don't like working 50 hours a week.

That being said, I'm 23 now and need to get my shit together and they are going to pay alot of the money for me to finish the last two years of my computer science degree. Full coverage after a few months of working there, and I'm getting a raise from around the poverty line (I've been lazy) to what many would consider middle class. Almost a 600% raise in my yearly income.

I don't want to sit in a chair all day and talk people into signing up, I'd rather be working with my hands personally, but it's not a bad job and the things that come along with it are well worth it. Like I said, if you want it bad enough, it's not hard to make it happen.

So you feel that you have a job that anyone else in this country can do?
 

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Yeah, i have a problem with a 27 year old being a waitress and then asking for free healthcare. (and no, i know your friend wasn't).


:lolBIG: So you want no waiters or waitress in the world.


How do you feel about farmers? They're just getting by as it is now.
 

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So you feel that you have a job that anyone else in this country can do?

orrections officer, court reporter, mailman, garbage man etc... I am sure your waitress friend is smart enough to deliver/sort mail. Maybe it would be boring but it would pay the bills.

And most waitresses i have known have made more than enough to pay for healthcare.
 

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:lolBIG: So you want no waiters or waitress in the world.


How do you feel about farmers? They're just getting by as it is now.

If you are getting healthcare from family or a spouse (like your friend) then there is no problem with being a waitress.

And plenty of waitress make enough to pay for healthcare.
 

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So you feel that you have a job that anyone else in this country can do?

Well not people with some disabilities I suppose... but if you can talk on the phone and are smarter than a 5th grader, you have a nice shot. DirecTV is another company I worked for that hires damn near everyone. Only reason I quit there is because half the team leaders managed a McDonald's for 2 months and I couldn't get that cushy job unless I went through 6 months of manager training, even though it was obvious me and others knew more about the gig than some of the supposed "team leaders".

Anyway, it's not that tough to get a good job if you want it. That's why there is a 3-month training program at Qwest, not really for me, but for those that aren't familiar with sales and computers.
 

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orrections officer, court reporter, mailman, garbage man etc... I am sure your waitress friend is smart enough to deliver/sort mail. Maybe it would be boring but it would pay the bills.

And most waitresses i have known have made more than enough to pay for healthcare.


Where do you know them from? Tavern on the Green?
 

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Where do you know them from? Tavern on the Green?

There are plenty.

But the real issue is whether we should support people who make bad life decisions and are waiting tables either 10 years after graduating high school or 6 years after graduating college. I say no, you say yes.
 

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How do you do it ? Can't imagine paying $50,000+ or more for tests or surgery that I may need.

Dude, I've got news for you. You live in Canada, and you pay taxes right? You've ALREADY paid your $50,000, and then some. By the time you die, you will have paid a hell of a lot more than that for your health care, whether you ever take advantage of our second-rate doctors or not.

I live in Canada too. Here's hoping to us dying after some wicked accident, followed by reconstructive surgery, enemas and catheters, and then months on life support.
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Want to get my money's worth...
 

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There are plenty.

But the real issue is whether we should support people who make bad life decisions and are waiting tables either 10 years after graduating high school or 6 years after graduating college. I say no, you say yes.

Fine. Lets say we all go with your example and take whatever job has health insurance. What percentage of business in this country would no longer exist because no one's working for them?

In your world, restaurants no longer exist for one. What other businesses would be wiped away?
 

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Fine. Lets say we all go with your example and take whatever job has health insurance. What percentage of business in this country would no longer exist because no one's working for them?

In your world, restaurants no longer exist for one. What other businesses would be wiped away?

Your working under the assumption that there is a god/constitutionally given right to work in or own a restaurant AND at the same time have health coverage. There simply isnt.

There are restaurants open today. They make money. Certain employees are forced to work there because they screwed up in life and can't get jobs that have healthcare.

For those people, i say tough shit.
 

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Your working under the assumption that there is a god/constitutionally given right to work in or own a restaurant AND at the same time have health coverage. There simply isnt.

There are restaurants open today. They make money. Certain employees are forced to work there because they screwed up in life and can't get jobs that have healthcare.

For those people, i say tough shit.

what if the person is slightly slow and as hard as they try cannot get a better job than waitress or other non insurance job?
 

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Your working under the assumption that there is a god/constitutionally given right to work in or own a restaurant AND at the same time have health coverage. There simply isnt.

There are restaurants open today. They make money. Certain employees are forced to work there because they screwed up in life and can't get jobs that have healthcare.

For those people, i say tough shit.

That's how you see it??? You really should be a head hunter for a living and get all these "fuck ups" jobs. It's just that easy.

So someone who's working in a restaurant so they could go to school at night, what do you tell them? "No health care till you're done with college!"
 

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I believe i addressed people with disablities before. I assume there are people that are slow, but not slow enough to be qualify as disabled. Couldn't they just moderate gambling forums?

Seriously, i am not suggesting that the system is perfect, but if we give everyone healthcare it will lead to greater abuses.

And even if a person doesn't have healthcare its not like they are turned down at hospitals when they have an emergency.

And if they get billed and owe 50,000 they can apply for bankruptcy or they are so poor they are pretty much judgment proof anyway.
 

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That's how you see it??? You really should be a head hunter for a living and get all these "fuck ups" jobs. It's just that easy.

So someone who's working in a restaurant so they could go to school at night, what do you tell them? "No health care till you're done with college!"

What do you think i did when i went to college and graduate school? You think hundreds just fell out of the sky and into my lap to pay for health insurance?

I am still paying off the loans from those years.
 

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