I gotta agree with you, Rude...I thank God you don't live in the USA either. We already have enough idiots here, like for instance, the filmaker you mentioned. We have the bast medical care system in the world and most people are affluent enough to be able to afford reasonably priced health insurance. The ones who can't afford health insurance go to the emergency room and never pay a dime for the same high level of health care that the insured receive. We have 20 million illegal aliens in this country right now and every one of them can, and do on a regular basis, walk into an emergency room anywhere in this country and receive the same high level of medical care. We're not putting up a wall to keep people in this country but just the opposite, to keep them out! I just wish your feelings of not wanting to live in the USA would spread to the millions of people who try to enter this country illegally everyday!
So if you have 2 kids, you would choose to work in a small business over a government job?
People with no kids could afford health insurance working for a small business if they cut back on shit like cell phones. people with families should have made better life choices before having kids so they wouldn't be forced to live on minimum wage working in a restaurant.
So the kids who are put in that situation (poor family) should live in poverty and without healthcare? I think some of us forget how much college costs. So if you cannot afford college, more then likely you wont get a job with healthcare benefits, and therefore should live in debt. Please explain how you deal with this...
That's not true. If you cut out having a cell phone, you now could afford health insurance? To have real coverage you have to spend $400 a month. I know. :thumbsup:
I'll give you an example of someone who's not ready for a family working in a restaurant. (making decent money) A friend of mine is 27 years old and she has a job working as a waitress. She moves in with her new boyfriend 6 months ago. Three months after, she finds out she has breast cancer. Of course she has no insurance, but because of his job, she's luckily somehow covered completely. $90,000 in insurance bills in a month!! If she wasn't covered, she'd be paying that off for the rest of her life. It's not right. We're not talking about giving everyone welfare.
The world needs waitresses.
If you want to go to Penn St, yeah college is expensive. There are plenty of community or local colleges that are very very cheap. You take out a student loan and then get a job after school and pay it off. That is how i most people pay for school. Very few people actually have the funds to pay off their tuition without the help of student loans.
As for kids, its not as if they get turned away at the emergency room if they are sick.
People in America are lazy enough as it is. If we give them free healthcare imagine how worse it will get.
There are good points on both sides in this thread....
Canada's system (not only healthcare but welfare also) promotes apathy, however, there is plenty of apathy in the states as well.
Also, most Americans would be shocked at the amount of taxes we pay, so our health care comes at a price, its not free.
For a guy like me, whom for the most part is responsible, the American system is likely better, I would simply make sure I am covered, and that would be that, even if it meant buying the insurance every month.
For millions of others however, who may be unstable or whatnot, and cannot find work easily, the American system seems to leave them behind, while the Canadian does not.
Trust me, neither system is perfect. and as it shows above, both Canada and USA are way down on the list.
Canada's system (not only healthcare but welfare also) promotes apathy, however, there is plenty of apathy in the states as well.
Also, most Americans would be shocked at the amount of taxes we pay, so our health care comes at a price, its not free.
For a guy like me, whom for the most part is responsible, the American system is likely better, I would simply make sure I am covered, and that would be that, even if it meant buying the insurance every month.
For millions of others however, who may be unstable or whatnot, and cannot find work easily, the American system seems to leave them behind, while the Canadian does not.
Trust me, neither system is perfect. and as it shows above, both Canada and USA are way down on the list.
First off, how hot is she? IF she is real hot then maybe i would agree.
Second, i stand by my point that it doesn't take much effort to either find a job that covers your health care or to make enough to cover it yourself. And i am not saying that cutting your cell phone alone would be enough to get your health insurance but i am sure i could find enough waste in most peoples lives to find enough cash for health insurance. I know it wouldn't be easy for alot, but why should i work hard to make good money so that other people can have it easy?
Our Governator here in Cali is trying to get universal health care for all Californians. He cant run for governor again so guess he can stick his neck out now
funny when he got to office the GOP was saying how they wanted to change the Amendements so he could become US President (being foreign born). Now they dont want anything to do with him.
funny when he got to office the GOP was saying how they wanted to change the Amendements so he could become US President (being foreign born). Now they dont want anything to do with him.
Just because you say its a great example does not make it a great example. First off, i have a problem with someone that is 27 and a waitress. Second, i have a problem with a waitress that can't pull together a couple of hundred bucks a month. Maybe its 400 for some, but i am pretty sure you can get basic healtcoverage for less.
I just don't understand why i have to pay for the health coverage of a 27 year old girl who was not previously disabled.
She's actually very hot. She won a paid wedding on the Fox Morning show. She told her story and they gave them $5,000.
http://www.mandjshow.com/features/the-dream-wedding-series/
