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20 vs Pat and horrible choke ints lol.
Josh would be the first to admit he didn't have his best game. Tom Brady had them. Joe Montana had them.

Unlike the NBA or MLB, the NFL magnifies every loss - one bad game doesn't erase greatness.

Evaluate a QB over 3-5+ years, not a single box score or even one season.

As for your hero Mahomes, imagine your reaction if Allen did this...


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Baker is on track to be MVP.

Does that make him better?

To this point in this season he has been the best player in the NFL.

Long way to go but ......
Having a better season doesn't make you the better player in the big picture

I'd give the MVP to Baker as well

Allen is still a better player than Baker though
 

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I feel for some of these QBs - certain franchises just chew them up and spit them out.

Baker Mayfield got lucky and a shot at redemption. Good for him.

Most aren't that fortunate.
 

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2025 Regular Season MVP
75001Josh Allen +175
75014Baker Mayfield+200
75080Patrick Mahomes+250
75009Jordan Love+1200
75021Drake Maye+1600
75008Jared Goff+1600
75018Matthew Stafford+1600
75006Justin Herbert+1800
75054Daniel Jones+2800
75004Jayden Daniels+3300
75000Lamar Jackson+3500
75013Dak Prescott+4000
75020Sam Darnold+4000
75029Aaron Rodgers+5000
75005Jalen Hurts+6600
75019Bo Nix+10000
75010Caleb Williams+10000
75012Trevor Lawrence+10000
75007CJ Stroud+12000
 

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Stats can be twisted and we all have our favorite players for one game or many seasons, but I don't think many people would take Allen, or any other current QB other than Mahomes over Baker in a big game.
 

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Allen's playoff losses are variance, small sample size. His play has been great, it just came down to who won a coin flip or who had the ball last. I'd go Allen.

Took Baker +475, Goff +1500, Jones +4000 and Darnold +6000.
 

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Patrick Mahomes (Playoffs + Super Bowls) vs Josh Allen (Playoffs)
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Player                          G   Cmp%   Y/G   INT%   Rush Y/G
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Patrick Mahomes — Playoffs     21   67.7  276.9   1.3       28.9
Patrick Mahomes — Super Bowls   5   65.3  265.6   3.6       39.4
Josh Allen — Playoffs          13   65.7  258.4   0.9       51.4
 

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That data table says it all in its omission of the won-lost record. Winning games in the playoffs is the most important stat.
 

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That data table says it all in its omission of the won-lost record. Winning games in the playoffs is the most important stat.
The data table doesn’t lie - Bills management competing hard for "Most Dysfunctional Front Office in the AFC" alongside the Bengals and Browns šŸ˜‚

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The bigger issue is that Josh Allen isn't elite hes just a great QB
His lack of winning in the playoffs is the issue. People like to make excuses but his success in the regular season vs Kc and then his 0-4 playoff record vs them says it all. You can't say the Bills don't have the talent and then repeatedly beat KC in the regular season and loser in the playoffs.

If you put Joah Allen on the Eagles last year do they win the SB? Maybe but we do know Hurts did win.If you put Hurts on the Bils do they win the SB?Almost definitely no but we don't know for sure. We do know he is 0-4 vs the Chiefs in the playoffs while constantly beating them in the regular season.

Despite Bakers stats when you look at Allen as far as winning he elevates his team significantly more than Baker
yeah i get what you’re saying but i still think allen’s got that elite talent it’s just the situational stuff in the playoffs that kills him he’s not getting outplayed start to finish it’s those key moments that separate him from guys who’ve actually won it all
 

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Baker was far better than the team he played with in Cle. His head coach was the problem and still is - in Cle.
He has all kinds of rookie records in Cle that went un-noticed.
One thing for sure...the game was never over if he was playing. His come from behnd ability was excellent and still is..
Is Josh Allen better? We'll find out on Nov 16 in Buffalo.
It depends on what surrounds them.
They're only as good as their offensive line, recievers and run game.

Looking ahead at the schedule, Tampa could win out. Starting Monday in Detroit!
 

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I can’t believe people think Baker Mayfield is better than Josh Allen lol

Perfect example of people overreacting to small sample sizes
 

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