Who watched the debate?

[JDeuce]

If and when Trump drops out and all his supporters flock to Cruz you and the status-quo mushy middle will soil yourselves.

This is far more plausible than the dim operative theory. If Hillary and Bill really did put Trump up to this, then the Donald has a strange way of carrying out orders by publicly admitting he basically paid Hillary for political favors. Not exactly the message Mr. and Mrs. Bubba want to be sending, I'd imagine. I'm also still unclear about what Donald would have to gain from all this. If the rumors of his $10B net worth are true, then it probably isn't money...so why would he agree to go through all this crap? "You know, I have a solid net worth. I'm feeling pretty good about my stock holdings/options for the near future. My real estate value continues to grow. I think I'll take a year off and do Bill and Hillary a giant favor of pretending to run for president so I can wreak havoc on the R party." Not buying it.

Again, I'm not declaring Trump the victor or savior. The guy I'd vote for today is Ted Cruz. I have no idea whether Donald's candidacy will ultimately help or harm the Rs...but so far, it's the former. As I've said for weeks, this is still very early in the preseason to make any real insights into what may happen. The election is 15 months away, and countless factors could shift the outcome one way or another between now and then. There are several other things which don't make sense...for ex, Trump leads the GOP field, and everyone else in the GOP field leads Hillary in a national poll, except Trump somehow trails Hillary by a wide margin? What, they only like him against the rest of the GOP, but not against the old hag D front runner? Does...not...compute.

Stick around, though. Shit's about to get interesting.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Nah, if that happens I'll make a killing wagering on the democrat nominee. Win win. In fact you and I can wager on it.

You mean you'll lose a killing.

Cruz is the most intelligent candidate by far and Trump the most successful.

Both would draw millions of voters who haven't been to the polls in years.

 

[Michelangelo]

Megyn Kelly definately has some liberal in her. The debate wasn't the first time she's shown her liberal bias. If you watch her show it comes out frequently.

However, I wouldn't say that she, or anyone else on FOX "has the Kenyan's back". Hell, half of Dems don't really have the Kenyan's back. Obama, in my opinion, is why there was such a large viewing of the Pub debate. Obama is why the three "anti-establishment" candidates polled so well after the debate. Obama and Hillary. Any honest American needs to give the Pubs a hard look in the wake of those two lying incompetents. Yes, including those who traditionally vote Dem.

Donald Trump is only the voice of the unrest that has gripped the country. Not sure he'll last but he is serving a valuable purpose. People are a) unhappy with the direction of the country, and b) unhappy with the two-faced fools that we have traditionally elected.

And look at the Dem bench. Single A at best. A long way from the big league leadership that the country sorely needs right now.

 

[PatsFan1283]

You mean you'll lose a killing.

Cruz is the most intelligent candidate by far and Trump the most successful.

Both would draw millions of voters who haven't been to the polls in years.

Trump has no real policies, no real solutions and hopefully no real support. Don't get me wrong I hope he stays in the race for a bit because if it means more eyeballs on the other candidates then that is ultimately good but that is where his value is in, getting eyeballs and casual viewers who normally don't partake in the political process.

His idea to tax Ford 35% on imports from Mexico was probably the dumbest thing we've heard on economic policy this election cycle. Even Bernie Sanders was probably like "Whoa chill out on the protectionist policies...."

 

[SheriffJoe]

This is far more plausible than the dim operative theory. If Hillary and Bill really did put Trump up to this, then the Donald has a strange way of carrying out orders by publicly admitting he basically paid Hillary for political favors. Not exactly the message Mr. and Mrs. Bubba want to be sending, I'd imagine. I'm also still unclear about what Donald would have to gain from all this. If the rumors of his $10B net worth are true, then it probably isn't money...so why would he agree to go through all this crap? "You know, I have a solid net worth. I'm feeling pretty good about my stock holdings/options for the near future. My real estate value continues to grow. I think I'll take a year off and do Bill and Hillary a giant favor of pretending to run for president so I can wreak havoc on the R party." Not buying it.

Again, I'm not declaring Trump the victor or savior. The guy I'd vote for today is Ted Cruz. I have no idea whether Donald's candidacy will ultimately help or harm the Rs...but so far, it's the former. As I've said for weeks, this is still very early in the preseason to make any real insights into what may happen. The election is 15 months away, and countless factors could shift the outcome one way or another between now and then. There are several other things which don't make sense...for ex, Trump leads the GOP field, and everyone else in the GOP field leads Hillary in a national poll, except Trump somehow trails Hillary by a wide margin? What, they only like him against the rest of the GOP, but not against the old hag D front runner? Does...not...compute.

Stick around, though. Shit's about to get interesting.

You're right, so far Trump has been great for the process because he's not allowing the establishment to run the show. As long as Trump remains in the race, the GOPe has ZERO control which is frickin' awesome. Why should he give up his leverage and make that stupid pledge not to run as an independent? Fuck the GOPe and the donkeys they rode in on (pun intended)!

That said, when conservatives like Palin, Cruz, Carson etc. start attacking The Donald, it'll be time to jump off the wagon.

Until then, the more Trump is attacked and ridiculed, the more popular he'll become. I don't pretend to know his real motivations, but Trump is soaring because all the right people hate him right now, something the establishment will never figure out.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Trump has no real policies, no real solutions and hopefully no real support. Don't get me wrong I hope he stays in the race for a bit because if it means more eyeballs on the other candidates then that is ultimately good but that is where his value is in, getting eyeballs and casual viewers who normally don't partake in the political process.

His idea to tax Ford 35% on imports from Mexico was probably the dumbest thing we've heard on economic policy this election cycle. Even Bernie Sanders was probably like "Whoa chill out on the protectionist policies...."

Trump's book is filled with policies.

You may not agree with them, but they are there.

 

[SheriffJoe]

For example, on taxes:

Called the “1-5-10-15″ income tax plan–this will likely form the basis of his presidential campaign. Tax proposals consist of the following:

* Those making up to $30,000 will pay 1 percent.
* Income from $30,000 to $100,000 results in a flat 5 percent.
* $100,000 to $1 million income will be taxed at 10 percent.
* On $1 million or above will be taxed 15 percent.

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/...ax-proposal-this-is-a-big-deal/#ixzz3iSbU3up9

 

[SheriffJoe]

Megyn Kelly definately has some liberal in her. The debate wasn't the first time she's shown her liberal bias. If you watch her show it comes out frequently.

One too many Washington cocktail parties. Kinda sad because she's hot.

However, I wouldn't say that she, or anyone else on FOX "has the Kenyan's back".

You better believe it.

Fox News blacklists anyone who threatens the Obama regime beyond the usual back and forth toothless partisan nonsense. There's a reason Ruport Murdoch had lunch with Valerie Jarrett on multiple occasions, but Fox made a deal with the devil a long time ago.

U.S. drops probe of Fox, News Corp: No charges filed in hacking scandal

Federal investigators have ended their three-year investigation into whether Rupert Murdoch's media company violated U.S. laws during the British tabloid phone hacking and bribery scandal.

The U.S. Department of Justice said Monday that it had closed its lengthy investigation into the matter without bringing charges.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...s-fox-phone-hacking-probe-20150202-story.html

Only idiots like Jon Stewart and his sheeple like poker fraud vtard still believe Fox is "right wing"

 

[vitterd]

Now Fox News is not right wing??? Lmao.....only Sheriff Houser could come up with shit like this.

 

[Ricboff]

For example, on taxes:

Called the “1-5-10-15″ income tax plan–this will likely form the basis of his presidential campaign. Tax proposals consist of the following:

* Those making up to $30,000 will pay 1 percent.
* Income from $30,000 to $100,000 results in a flat 5 percent.
* $100,000 to $1 million income will be taxed at 10 percent.
* On $1 million or above will be taxed 15 percent.

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/...ax-proposal-this-is-a-big-deal/#ixzz3iSbU3up9

“It’s clear and fair,” wrote Trump on his tax plan. “Best of all, it can be filled out on the back of a postcard and will save Americans big bucks on accountants and massive amounts of time wasted attempting to decipher the tax code.”


Trump also wrote, “Imagine your paycheck was 40 percent higher than it currently is. What could you do with 40 percent more wealth? How many jobs and opportunities for others could you create?”
“The longer you really think about it the madder you will get,” he wrote, “especially when you consider the waste, fraud, and abuse the federal government traffics in as it inflicts its self-defeating policies on hard-working Americans.”



don't get him going Joe....or else...........he'll hit twitter with a vengence..............

 

[JDeuce]

You're right, so far Trump has been great for the process because he's not allowing the establishment to run the show. As long as Trump remains in the race, the GOPe has ZERO control which is frickin' awesome. Why should he give up his leverage and make that stupid pledge not to run as an independent? Fuck the GOPe and the donkeys they rode in on (pun intended)!

That said, when conservatives like Palin, Cruz, Carson etc. start attacking The Donald, it'll be time to jump off the wagon.

Until then, the more Trump is attacked and ridiculed, the more popular he'll become. I don't pretend to know his real motivations, but Trump is soaring because all the right people hate him right now, something the establishment will never figure out.

That's the biggest positive he's bringing...although you forgot to include dimocraps are unable to control him as well. The PC crowd is so used to everyone just bending over and grabbing their ankles whenever they demand anything, and they have no idea how to react since Trump's popularity seems to increase every time he tells them to shove it up their collective asses. He's using their own Alinsky tactics right back at them.

Another big positive is Trump's success to date is beginning to weed out the RINOs and GOPe's masquerading as conservatives. The longer he does this, the more you'll see. Take a look at the negative comments on Megyn Kelly's Facebook page, for ex. John Sununu, George Will and several others have been nothing short of disgraceful in their Trump criticism.

Funny story. I was in Vegas last week at the Hard Rock, playing BJ by myself at a hand held table Friday morning. I sat down and the dealer was a really cool dude. Black guy, probably in his 50s...half gray and half black hair slicked back into a pony tail. Down to earth kind of personality who I always enjoy having a conversation with. I think his nametag said Terrell. After a couple hands...he says "Man, you watch the debate last night?" I say yeah, asking him what he thought. "That Donald Trump, man...the guy lets it fly and doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. I respect that." I smiled and talked to him about it until he rotated tables.

I have my reasons for believing this....but I don't think the dimocrap grip on the minority voter is as strong as it once was. They just elected their beloved Stuttering Clusterfuck for two terms, and every single measure of their well being is worse than it was before his presence cursed this nation. I think some of them are starting to wake up to that. Slowly, though...it'll take another generation at least for a good amount of them to realize they've been fed lies for a long time by their former slave owners. That's one reason dims want to import as many uneducated illegals as quickly as possible. They don't know any better, and that's what dimocraps need to stay in business.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Now Fox News is not right wing??? Lmao.....only Sheriff Houser could come up with shit like this.

Fox is the boogeyman which keeps useful idiots like you voting left.

 

[Willie99]

Kelly leans right, and she's smart, but maybe she's trying to hard to look unbiased.


I'll also say it's never to below Fox to try and take out the non-establishment candidate

Lastly, maybe Kelly was trying to improve her peer status by being the one to take out Trump.

I'm somewhat amused by all the dorks underestimating Trump, he can mix it up with anyone

 

[PatsFan1283]

Kelly said it best, if he can't handle her questioning without getting tilted then how is he going to handle dealing with Putin.

 

[SheriffJoe]

GOP Establishment Plans Backfiring

OP ED
| Aug 10, 2015 10:08am

Donald Trump's rapid rise to the top of the GOP presidential candidate field symbolizes the frustration of the American public.

The American people delivered the GOP both houses of Congress last fall in an attempt to block the Obama administration's imperialist march toward socialism. And how did the GOP reward the trust of their voters? They proceeded to break every election promise before Christmas and continued to do so as the seasons changed from winter to spring to summer.

And so along come refreshing, non-political personalities such as Trump, Dr. Ben Carson, Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina. While Trump's conservative credentials can be fairly questioned, Carson and Fiorina are two personalities who will not stand on political correctness and ceremony. Their styles contrast sharply from Trump's, but ultimately, they resonate with a public sick of the mainstream media, the Clinton-Bush dynasties and the open disdain displayed by both the GOP and Democrats for common Americans.

If the GOP had a brain cell in its collective head, it would be hunkering down to determine how it can seize the momentum gained by Trump and the 24 million people who tuned into the first GOP debate on Fox News. Instead, the GOP sharpens its knives and increases its intention to shove an establishment candidate such as Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich down the public's throat.


GOP donors made it abundantly clear they wanted Trump removed from the first GOP debate. Without Trump, Fox doesn't get the ratings it received. The goal of the debate -- from the first question onward -- was to set Trump up for self-destruction. Could he take the criticism?

Trump handled the debate well and actually gained strength. Moderator Megyn Kelly took a massive reputation hit for her line of questioning -- including one question about how Trump addresses women in Tweets and other commentary. Trump pushed back in his inimitable style and actually earned points with the public as a victim. However, he unraveled over the weekend by continuing to seeth over Kelly's questioning saying she had "blood coming out of her eyes and wherever".

Of course, Trump just should've shut his mouth after his "Megyn behaved very badly" comment and left it at that. But the mainstream media seized the blood comment and pounced. Trump was promptly un-invited from a Red State conservative conference as was Ben Carson, Kasich, Rick Santorum, Lindsey Graham.


However, as the weekend surged, Trump remained atop the field in an NBC News Poll. In fact, the GOP's Establishment hit job is actually having the opposite effect. The poll ranks like this: Trump (23%), Cruz (13%), Carson (11%), Fiorina (8%), Rubio (8%), Bush (7%) and Walker (7%).

Graham claimed over the weekend how Trump's presence damaged the GOP brand. In typical big-government style, Graham wants Trump ex-communicated from the GOP candidate field. Graham, perhaps the GOP's poster boy for delusional, tone deaf, lifetime politicians, serves as a prime example of why the American public displays signs of rebelling against the current Washington autocracy.



The GOP will not rest until it tricks the American public into delivering a candidate who will continue to support lobbyists and cronyism in Washington. Our government is broken almost beyond repair. But the American people, despite the inside belief of both the GOP and Democrats, are smarter than that. And they aren't buying into the game just yet.

http://www.newstalkflorida.com/gop-establishment-plans-to-deliver-candidate-backfirining

 

[neverbend]

neverbend it would be cool if he'd not aid igniting shit, mountains out of moles. Cmon.

people clearly want to hear what he has to say. Likely some good ideas.

http://conservativetribune.com/dona...um=TheFederalistPapers&utm_content=2015-08-05


Trump’s code, which he calls the “1-5-10-15 income tax plan,” is a simplistic way to fix our nation’s broken taxation system, without putting the strain on any particular group of people.
Under Trump’s tax plan, those making up to…

• $30,000 per year will pay 1 percent in federal income taxes
• $30,000 to $100,000 will pay 5 percent
• $100,000 to $1 million will pay 10 percent
• $1 million or above will pay 15 percent

“It’s clear and fair,” wrote Trump on his tax plan. “Best of all, it can be filled out on the back of a postcard and will save Americans big bucks on accountants and massive amounts of time wasted attempting to decipher the tax code.”


Trump also wrote, “Imagine your paycheck was 40 percent higher than it currently is. What could you do with 40 percent more wealth? How many jobs and opportunities for others could you create?”
“The longer you really think about it the madder you will get,” he wrote, “especially when you consider the waste, fraud, and abuse the federal government traffics in as it inflicts its self-defeating policies on hard-working Americans.”
Trump’s rhetoric on taxes continues to this day. On CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Trump stated that he tries to pay as little tax as possible.
“I fight like hell to pay as little as possible, for two reasons. Number one, I am a businessman, and that’s the way you are supposed to do it. And you put the money back in your company and employees and all of that.”
He also added, “But the other reason is that I hate the way our government spends our taxes. I hate the way they waste our money, trillions and trillions of dollars of waste and abuse. And I hate it.” (H/T WND)
Trump’s proposed tax plan is fair and shows real promise at fixing what has arguably become America’s biggest headache. It doesn’t tax the poor to the point of bankruptcy, and it doesn’t punish the rich for being successful






go get'em Mr Trump

Agree with everything in this post. No he's not perfect, I to am hoping for the charm
offensive that I thinks coming. He went to military school so he certainly can contain
himself when necessary.

Don Trump in this new career move is a rookie, it's on the job training for him,
Even Roger Stone, who just left the Trump campaign, on CNN yesterday said
he thinks Trump would be a great president & sees the contest between one giant
& 9 pygmies, he left because he was tired of Trump making as you say
mountains out of molehills.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Just what the country needs: more debates with lots of hand shows!!

 

[SheriffJoe]

 

[MantisToboggan]

You mean you'll lose a killing.

Cruz is the most intelligent candidate by far and Trump the most successful.

Both would draw millions of voters who haven't been to the polls in years.

And what about the millions of "RINOs" that voted for Romney that wouldn't go near Cruz or Donnie? You have enough true conservatives to both replace the RINOs you lose and make up the 3+ million votes and more importantly 64 in the electoral college? Funny stuff, Arpaio.

 

[Acebb]

What I learned about Donald Trump at the RedState Gathering he was uninvited from

​

It's too bad for Trump — he would have found himself right at home at the Gathering. The conference opened with a debate party on Thursday night, and the activists cheered Trump's remarks, especially in the first hour. That included his refusal to rule out a third-party or independent bid. Indeed, the RedState crowd never grew hostile to Trump, although it did at times with other candidates, especially Jeb Bush.

But here's what stuck with me: Many Beltway pundits assumed that Trump's "blood" remark would be a crash-and-burn moment. They clearly have a lot to learn about the conservative voters who will ultimately make that decision. While many of them understood and agreed with the unvitation in the immediate aftermath of Trump's attack on Kelly, no one that I spoke to at the RedState Event had sworn him off as a candidate. These were not rabid Trump backers unwilling to tolerate criticism of a personal hero, but conservatives frustrated by a party that they feel has stopped listening to them, and largely talks over them. Many of these conservative activists see Trump as a man who breaks that pattern. They want to send a message to the GOP and force the party to pay attention to its base voters.

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^ Very interesting observations.