well ya maybe I over hype a little on Miami but that's kinda normal for fans to do. I said earlier in this thread that I think Jim Kelly was one of the great also and yes probably Brady will be when its all said and done.
Kudos to you being a Pats fan and acknowledging Marino! :toast:
Longevity can make you seem a lot greater than you are. End of the day I say Shula overrated someone has the response of "most wins ever"
Same reason people think Karl Malone is top 20 all time when he played with another PG that is considered top 25 all time, yet they couldn't make the finals in the west until Magic, Dream, Drexler, Barkley all got old.
hno:
i think all HOF's are overrated,there are people in them that you may think don't belong,there are people not in that people think they should be,etc....the bottom line here is,different era's for different people,games have changed in all sports as time goes on,so really how can anyone decide on who belongs or who dosen't.people in todays sports would not make it back in the day,people back in the day would not make it in todays game,its crazy but its all how you look at it.
players get in for all different reasons,300 game winners they say are automatic,but some have never won a world series,....some have 3000 hits but never won a title or a world series,and some don't have 3000 hits but won batting titles and world series but get into the HOF.
it goes on and on in every sport,so this is really a contraversial question,its all about opinions,its who you like,its who comes thru in the clutch,etc,so its really a crap shoot when you look at it.
players get in for all different reasons,300 game winners they say are automatic,but some have never won a world series,....some have 3000 hits but never won a title or a world series,and some don't have 3000 hits but won batting titles and world series but get into the HOF.
it goes on and on in every sport,so this is really a contraversial question,its all about opinions,its who you like,its who comes thru in the clutch,etc,so its really a crap shoot when you look at it.
I'm conflicted on MAZ
I believe that a baseball player especially should be judged for how he did in his era FOR HIS POSITION.
back in Maz's era there were really almost zero offensively oriented 2nd basemen. Maz also had a very good glove.
but yeah I still don't think he gets in without that 1960 HR
I believe that a baseball player especially should be judged for how he did in his era FOR HIS POSITION.
back in Maz's era there were really almost zero offensively oriented 2nd basemen. Maz also had a very good glove.
but yeah I still don't think he gets in without that 1960 HR
