Who are your top three players in any sport that SHOULD NOT be in their respective HOF?

[doubledeuce22]

Are you guys that dense? QB stats were way different in previous eras, perhaps a greater discrepancy than any other sport.

 

[REDEYE]

Wouldn't you agree though that Bradshaw was an average QB that just played on great teams? Had his teams not been good, he would not be in the HOF.

We could make that case about alot of multiple SB winning QB's... Most SB teams have alot of great players...The offensive talent in Pittsburgh wasn't exactly overwelming either..Not sure alot of people put Chuck Noll on a pedestal either

 

[Enfuego]

We could make that case about alot of multiple SB winning QB's... Most SB teams have alot of great players...The offensive talent in Pittsburgh wasn't exactly overwelming either..Not sure alot of people put Chuck Noll on a pedestal either

Good points.

 

[JudgeWapner]

By your criteria, Bart Starr wouldn't be in either.

 

[FairWarning]

Bradshaw played great when it counted but as you look at his career numbers, he is not HOF worthy IMO. Look at Swann's career numbers. His highest number of receptions in one year was only 61. Who was throwing to Swann?

Look at the qb numbers of his era. QB's threw downfield much more than now. A great completion percentage then was 55-60%.

 

[Enfuego]

By your criteria, Bart Starr wouldn't be in either.

It's an interesting question JW. We often look at who is not in that should be in but who is in that shouldn't be makes you think a bit.

 

[Enfuego]

Look at the qb numbers of his era. QB's threw downfield much more than now. A great completion percentage then was 55-60%.

Good point. Fran Tarkenton's % during the same time period (70's) is right around 60%. In my mind there's a big difference between 50% and 60%.

 

[JudgeWapner]

It's an interesting question JW. We often look at who is not in that should be in but who is in that shouldn't be makes you think a bit.

Yes it does.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Judge Wapner and Fair Warning have made great points in this thread....

Bradshaw deserves all the accolades praised on him...you don't win 4 superbowls by accident...

 

[REDEYE]

Judge Wapner and Fair Warning have made great points in this thread....

Bradshaw deserves all the accolades praised on him...you don't win 4 superbowls by accident...

VD, I wasn't hating on Tiger, how come points didn't get props by you ?

 

[Enfuego]

Judge Wapner and Fair Warning have made great points in this thread....

Bradshaw deserves all the accolades praised on him...you don't win 4 superbowls by accident...

VD, if his teams weren't good and they didn't go to a Superbowl or let's say he won 1 out of 4, in your mind, would he still be in the HOF?

 

[scottcarter]

when you want a heated debate, just talk about Pro football and the HOF and who's the best. Guaranteed to get lots of opinions

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

VD, if his teams weren't good and they didn't go to a Superbowl or let's say he won 1 out of 4, in your mind, would he still be in the HOF?

Reality my friend...that's why he is in.....

But to answer your question, of course not...in the NFL, winning is the only thing...

 

[Enfuego]

TB's Superbowl Stats:

1974 - 9-14 for 96 yards and 1 TD and no picks.
1975 - 9-19 for 209 yards and 2 TDs and no picks.
1978 - 17-30 for 318 and 4 TDs and 1 pick.
1979 - 14-21 for 309 yards and 2 TDs and 3 picks.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

VD, I wasn't hating on Tiger, how come points didn't get props by you ?

Tiger is special....your points are slanted....lol

 

[Enfuego]

Reality my friend...that's why he is in.....

But to answer your question, of course not...in the NFL, winning is the only thing...

I appreciate your honesty. I would say though that he only performed above average in 2 of his 4 Super Bowl games.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

TB's Superbowl Stats:

1974 - 9-14 for 96 yards and 1 TD and no picks.
1975 - 9-19 for 209 yards and 2 TDs and no picks.
1978 - 17-30 for 318 and 4 TDs and 1 pick.
1979 - 14-21 for 309 yards and 2 TDs and 3 picks.

Thank you for making my point.....running backs were at a premium during those days....

 

[Enfuego]

when you want a heated debate, just talk about Pro football and the HOF and who's the best. Guaranteed to get lots of opinions

Don't want anything to be heated at all Scott. Just a discussion.

 

[scottcarter]

TB's Superbowl Stats:

1974 - 9-14 for 96 yards and 1 TD and no picks.
1975 - 9-19 for 209 yards and 2 TDs and no picks.
1978 - 17-30 for 318 and 4 TDs and 1 pick.
1979 - 14-21 for 309 yards and 2 TDs and 3 picks.

it would mean more if it was an individual event. Wouldn't it?

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Look at Bill Mazerowski of the Pirates...the 7th game HR in a World Series got him voted in the HOF....not a great career by any strech of the imagination...