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Scott, On just about every other subject in here, you are levelheaded, but this one, you get your panties all in a wad. Why?

The fact is, science cannot and does not show that people are born gay, no matter how much you repeat the phrase.

People might be born with a predisposition towards homosexuality, but you have to choose to foster that behavior.

You could say the same thing about pedophilia.

I could make the same comment toward you. But many others here would say you're completely off your rocker about everything. So it's a mater of opinion. My panties are in a wad Zit because I have morals and life experience. And before anyone gets any ideas I'm straight as an arrow. Were I gay I would proudly proclaim it right here. And if you think I'm mean now...... On the science we disagree. And many scientists disagree with your scientists. I went to Penn State 1978-82. Took many pysch courses. The consensus was gays are born that way among the professors I had, all with doctorates. The reason you search for studies that support your beliefs is because for the way you CHOOSE to worship God you need homosexuality to be termed a disease.
 

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Anyway, here is the next step in all of this:

Mr Drewitt-Barlow, who has been in a civil partnership since 2006, said: “We’ve launched a challenge to the Government’s decision to allow some religious groups to opt out of marrying same-sex couples.


http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/10617202.Gay_dads_campaign_for_church_wedding/

It will happen in the UK and it will happen in America.

It's already happening in America:

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Hands On Originals. The Christian owner of a local t-shirt company declined to produce shirts advertising Lexington’s annual Gay Pride Festival. Hands On Originals had likely made shirts for many gay people in the past. As far as I know, they never asked anyone to fill out a questionnaire about their sexual proclivities before ordering their apparel. In this case, however, the company was being asked to advertise for a gay pride festival. He politely turned down the business and even pointed the organizers to other manufacturers that would make the shirts at the same or better rates. Nobody’s rights were infringed upon. Nobody was victimized. Nobody was even inconvenienced.

But the bullies at Kentucky’s Gay and Lesbian Services Organization smelled an opportunity. They dragged Hands On before the “Human Rights Commission” and accused them of “human rights violations.” The HRC sided with the gay bullies. So did Lexington’s mayor. Lexington’s mayor is openly gay, by the way. But I’m sure that had nothing to do with his opinion on the matter.

Masterpiece Cake Shop. The Christian owner of a Colorado bakery has been forced by a judge to bake cakes for gay weddings, after declining the business 0f two gay men who wanted him to make a cake for their same sex nuptials. The baker didn’t refuse them “because they’re gay.” In fact, he specifically said: “I’ll make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just don’t make cakes for same-sex weddings.”

He had a problem with the activity itself, not the people participating in it. But the gay couple, instead of respecting the man’s beliefs, decided to whine to the ACLU. Eventually a lawsuit was filed, and the couple complained in court of being “dehumanized.”

Elane Photography.
A New Mexico judge ruled that a small photography company in the state is not allowed to decide which weddings they will photograph and which weddings they won’t photograph. He compelled the Christian photographers who own the business to work gay weddings, despite their religious convictions.


This ruling came after Elane Huguenin politely declined to photograph a lesbian wedding back in 2006. As Huguenin explained: they will “gladly serve gays and lesbians—by, for example, providing them with portrait photography—whenever doing so would not require them to create expression conveying messages that conflict with their religious beliefs.”


But this wasn’t good enough. Even though the lesbian customers promptly found a different photographer who charged better rates, they still took the matter to the courts.


Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts.
A florist in Washington state was sued after she decided not to provide flowers for a gay wedding. In this case, even the customers admit that the business owner had served them many times over ten years. If she wanted to “refuse service to gays,” she would have already. But it wasn’t the gay men she had a problem with — it was the gay wedding. Of course this explanation, reasonable as it might be, wasn’t sufficient.


She was dragged to court. The lawsuit, I believe, is still ongoing.

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TYRANNY is the left's game -- whether it's FORCING you to pay for someone's foodstamps, or FORCING you do buy a product you don't want or need (Obamacare), or FORCING you to feed their vile, disgusting behaviors and lifestyles.

How can you FORCE a private citizen to involve himself in a thing he finds abhorrent?

How can you say someone has 'right' to have a cake baked or t-shirt printed for them??

For all their phony talk about "minding your own business" left wing politics is nothing but compulsion and conformity - TYRANNY.

"Get in line, or else!"

But we conservative students of history already knew this, didn't we?

 
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It's laughable. And another thing. Posters compare a homosexual act between consenting adults with a pervert who preys on children or a sicko who fucks his dog. They ignore the fact that in the first scenario there is no predator and no victim. So because it is grotesque to them it must be abnormal and a mental disorder. What about guys who prefer their women to be 280+ pounds with multiple layers of fat? Isn't that grotesque to most of us as well? I don't want to nail her, I don't want to watch a porn where she gets nailed anymore than I want to see two men do it. But does that mean she has no right to satisfy her urges? Of course not! And she wasn't even born fat. Although she could be genetically predisposed. Have you ever gone to a restaurant and seen somebody order something so gross that you'd never eat it in a million years? Yet it's that person's favorite food!

We can argue about science all day, just like Gorebal warming. Some will believe it is inborn and some will not. Some will use religious doctrine to condemn them. Some countries will give them life in prison which will bring a twinkle to some poster's eyes. I think it's pretty obvious sexual proclivity is inborn and no one would choose this path as it is a difficult life. But whatever you believe, to wish harm to these people, to bully them, insult them or want them locked away says something really horrible -- about you, not them!

Scott,

You can pretend all you want, but there damn well are victims in societies shoving homosexuality down our throats.

1. The breakdown of the traditional family - this one is huge
2. Increased mental and physical disease rates
3. Teaching kindergarteners about condoms, bananas, sodomy, oral sex...
4. Homosexuality marriage now? Polygamy and pedophilia is next, you mark my words, it's already happened elsewhere
5. Gay adoption is child abuse - The child IS the victim
6. Take a look at the SICKO fag parades in the open in California, parading their perversions in public, and you tell me there is no F'ing victims there?
Do you think some pre-teen or teen kid who is questioning his sexuality who watches that perversion is put in a healthy place, do you
think that shit is healthy for society?

Yeah, it's not so much allowing gays to bang each other in the back room, but shoving marriages in our face (illegally I might add) is BS.
 
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You are proving the point of picking and choosing. I am certainly not a Bible expert, but one doesn't have to be, to EASILY show the picking and choosing nature of those who follow the word. And thank G-D people do pick and choose what to follow, and what to toss, or there would be a lot more people then there have been already in history, killed in the name of the Bible. Just admit it, and move on.

Sigh. You don't even try to comprehend do you? Go ask any Jewish person, Orthodox or not - or ANY Christian of ANY denomination if the Old Testament Mosaic law applies to Jews or Gentiles today. Sigh.
 

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Of course, you're too stupid to understand an analogy, and instead talk absolute nonsense about marriage and the Constitution. face)(*^% You can't really be this stupid. Well, actually you can be and are. Just a sick troll, workin your way up the Wrong Way ladder.

You don't see Willie gay bashing in here. Might be a reason he's silent. I know he's your nemesis but I agree with many things he posts, election predictions notwithstanding.
 
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I could make the same comment toward you. But many others here would say you're completely off your rocker about everything. So it's a mater of opinion. My panties are in a wad Zit because I have morals and life experience. And before anyone gets any ideas I'm straight as an arrow. Were I gay I would proudly proclaim it right here. And if you think I'm mean now...... On the science we disagree. And many scientists disagree with your scientists. I went to Penn State 1978-82. Took many pysch courses. The consensus was gays are born that way among the professors I had, all with doctorates. The reason you search for studies that support your beliefs is because for the way you CHOOSE to worship God you need homosexuality to be termed a disease.

MANY others would say I'm COMPETELY off my rocker about EVERYTHING?

Ohhhh really?
 

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You are proving the point of picking and choosing. I am certainly not a Bible expert, but one doesn't have to be, to EASILY show the picking and choosing nature of those who follow the word. And thank G-D people do pick and choose what to follow, and what to toss, or there would be a lot more people then there have been already in history, killed in the name of the Bible. Just admit it, and move on.

Dont want to turn this into a discussion of the Bible. Would like to ask you a question: From your perspective, how do the New Testament Gospels of the Bible relate to the Old Testament Law (which includes your reference to stoning virgins)?
 
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I could make the same comment toward you. But many others here would say you're completely off your rocker about everything. So it's a mater of opinion. My panties are in a wad Zit because I have morals and life experience. And before anyone gets any ideas I'm straight as an arrow. Were I gay I would proudly proclaim it right here. And if you think I'm mean now...... On the science we disagree. And many scientists disagree with your scientists. I went to Penn State 1978-82. Took many pysch courses. The consensus was gays are born that way among the professors I had, all with doctorates. The reason you search for studies that support your beliefs is because for the way you CHOOSE to worship God you need homosexuality to be termed a disease.

Do you have a gay kid or something?
 

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Sigh. You don't even try to comprehend do you? Go ask any Jewish person, Orthodox or not - or ANY Christian of ANY denomination if the Old Testament Mosaic law applies to Jews or Gentiles today. Sigh.

You're saying the same thing as I am, that Jews and Gentiles of Today Do NOT follow all things in the Bible Literally. That they pick and choose what to take literally, and what not to. So why are you arguing this?
 

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Scott,

You can pretend all you want, but there damn well are victims in societies shoving homosexuality down our throats.

1. The breakdown of the traditional family - this one is huge
2. Increased mental and physical disease rates
3. Teaching kindergarteners about condoms, bananas, sodomy, oral sex...
4. Homosexuality marriage now? Polygamy and pedophilia is next, you mark my words, it's already happened elsewhere
5. Gay adoption is child abuse - The child IS the victim
6. Take a look at the SICKO fag parades in the open in California, parading their perversions in public, and you tell me there is no F'ing victims there?
Do you think some pre-teen or teen kid who is questioning his sexuality who watches that perversion is put in a healthy place, do you
think that shit is healthy for society?

Yeah, it's not so much allowing gays to bang each other in the back room, but shoving marriages in our face (illegally I might add) is BS.


wtf . wow. do you have a link to share?

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You're saying the same thing as I am, that Jews and Gentiles of Today Do NOT follow all things in the Bible Literally. That they pick and choose what to take literally, and what not to. So why are you arguing this?

It's not a matter of "literally." It's a matter of the Mosaic Law being temporary for a specific people, for a specific time. Clear?
 

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Dont want to turn this into a discussion of the Bible. Would like to ask you a question: From your perspective, how do the New Testament Gospels of the Bible relate to the Old Testament Law (which includes your reference to stoning virgins)?

Waaaay above my pay grade dude. I'm no Bible expert. Just pointing out how many people pick and choose what to follow literally, what to reject. That seems to upset some people, and I don't get why? Just accept that you're a modern day thinker and are not going to blindly follow books written thousands of years ago. That's an admirable trait, IMO.
 
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You're saying the same thing as I am, that Jews and Gentiles of Today Do NOT follow all things in the Bible Literally. That they pick and choose what to take literally, and what not to. So why are you arguing this?

Do you even know what the word "literal" means in that context?

Jesus said that if your right eye offends you that you should rip it out. Do you think that should be taken literally? Or do you think perhaps he was using hyperbole to make a point? So using your inane, ignorant argument, anyone that doesn't rip their eyes out doesn't take the Bible "literally."
 
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Waaaay above my pay grade dude. I'm no Bible expert. Just pointing out how many people pick and choose what to follow literally, what to reject. That seems to upset some people, and I don't get why? Just accept that you're a modern day thinker and are not going to blindly follow books written thousands of years ago. That's an admirable trait, IMO.

You don't even know what the words mean that you use. At least you admit that you don't have a clue about what you are trying to talk about.
 

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Scott,

You can pretend all you want, but there damn well are victims in societies shoving homosexuality down our throats.

1. The breakdown of the traditional family - this one is huge
2. Increased mental and physical disease rates
3. Teaching kindergarteners about condoms, bananas, sodomy, oral sex...
4. Homosexuality marriage now? Polygamy and pedophilia is next, you mark my words, it's already happened elsewhere
5. Gay adoption is child abuse - The child IS the victim
6. Take a look at the SICKO fag parades in the open in California, parading their perversions in public, and you tell me there is no F'ing victims there?
Do you think some pre-teen or teen kid who is questioning his sexuality who watches that perversion is put in a healthy place, do you
think that shit is healthy for society?

Yeah, it's not so much allowing gays to bang each other in the back room, but shoving marriages in our face (illegally I might add) is BS.

1) The breakdown of the traditional American family started when it became acceptable to have children out of wedlock. Absentee fathers are a bigger problem than homosexuality.
2) If I were born gay and bullied in school I'd hope my family doctor would send me to therapy as well. I'm sure shaming plays a role in the disease statistics as well. Plenty of STDs existed before aids, and still do. Alcohol causes liver disease, smoking causes lung cancer. But it's just the cocksucking that bothers you?
3) In what school district? GTFOUH! And in what grade in the public schools should sex education (just the parts, health issues and the pregnancy stuff, not the stuff your paranoid mind invented) be taught, if at all. Since you brought it up.....
4) More Paranoid Bullshit and your excuse to bully these people back into the closet.
5) Disagree 100%. The child has a better chance to grow up straight than your children.
6) Don't need to, already seen enough to make me vomit in your first 5 bullet points.

No one is shoveling gay marriage in your face. You don't have to attend. You don't have to live with them. You are the one doing the shoveling. Shoveling this Bullshit that gays are abnormal and undeserving of the same joys in life the rest of us have. You need a therapist more than they do!
 

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Do you even know what the word "literal" means in that context?

Jesus said that if your right eye offends you that you should rip it out. Do you think that should be taken literally? Or do you think perhaps he was using hyperbole to make a point? So using your inane, ignorant argument, anyone that doesn't rip their eyes out doesn't take the Bible "literally."

Sigh. Again, you're choosing what to take literally and what not to. Which is fine, I get it. But then don't try and call someone a heathen if they choose to not take some part of the Bible literally, that you do. If you want to debate what the word literal means, that's a whole nother argument. I take it as it's common meaning. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literal
 

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MANY others would say I'm COMPETELY off my rocker about EVERYTHING?

Ohhhh really?

I did not say they were correct, although now I'm wondering. I have commonalities with both the Right and Left in here. As well as differences on many issues. Do you? So what I meant was the Left in here thinks you're off your rocker, while I, as you said, only get my "panties in a wad" over this issue.
 

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