Scott, On just about every other subject in here, you are levelheaded, but this one, you get your panties all in a wad. Why?
The fact is, science cannot and does not show that people are born gay, no matter how much you repeat the phrase.
People might be born with a predisposition towards homosexuality, but you have to choose to foster that behavior.
You could say the same thing about pedophilia.
Anyway, here is the next step in all of this:
Mr Drewitt-Barlow, who has been in a civil partnership since 2006, said: “We’ve launched a challenge to the Government’s decision to allow some religious groups to opt out of marrying same-sex couples.
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/10617202.Gay_dads_campaign_for_church_wedding/
It will happen in the UK and it will happen in America.
It's laughable. And another thing. Posters compare a homosexual act between consenting adults with a pervert who preys on children or a sicko who fucks his dog. They ignore the fact that in the first scenario there is no predator and no victim. So because it is grotesque to them it must be abnormal and a mental disorder. What about guys who prefer their women to be 280+ pounds with multiple layers of fat? Isn't that grotesque to most of us as well? I don't want to nail her, I don't want to watch a porn where she gets nailed anymore than I want to see two men do it. But does that mean she has no right to satisfy her urges? Of course not! And she wasn't even born fat. Although she could be genetically predisposed. Have you ever gone to a restaurant and seen somebody order something so gross that you'd never eat it in a million years? Yet it's that person's favorite food!
We can argue about science all day, just like Gorebal warming. Some will believe it is inborn and some will not. Some will use religious doctrine to condemn them. Some countries will give them life in prison which will bring a twinkle to some poster's eyes. I think it's pretty obvious sexual proclivity is inborn and no one would choose this path as it is a difficult life. But whatever you believe, to wish harm to these people, to bully them, insult them or want them locked away says something really horrible -- about you, not them!
You are proving the point of picking and choosing. I am certainly not a Bible expert, but one doesn't have to be, to EASILY show the picking and choosing nature of those who follow the word. And thank G-D people do pick and choose what to follow, and what to toss, or there would be a lot more people then there have been already in history, killed in the name of the Bible. Just admit it, and move on.
Of course, you're too stupid to understand an analogy, and instead talk absolute nonsense about marriage and the Constitution. face)(*^% You can't really be this stupid. Well, actually you can be and are. Just a sick troll, workin your way up the Wrong Way ladder.
I could make the same comment toward you. But many others here would say you're completely off your rocker about everything. So it's a mater of opinion. My panties are in a wad Zit because I have morals and life experience. And before anyone gets any ideas I'm straight as an arrow. Were I gay I would proudly proclaim it right here. And if you think I'm mean now...... On the science we disagree. And many scientists disagree with your scientists. I went to Penn State 1978-82. Took many pysch courses. The consensus was gays are born that way among the professors I had, all with doctorates. The reason you search for studies that support your beliefs is because for the way you CHOOSE to worship God you need homosexuality to be termed a disease.
You are proving the point of picking and choosing. I am certainly not a Bible expert, but one doesn't have to be, to EASILY show the picking and choosing nature of those who follow the word. And thank G-D people do pick and choose what to follow, and what to toss, or there would be a lot more people then there have been already in history, killed in the name of the Bible. Just admit it, and move on.
I could make the same comment toward you. But many others here would say you're completely off your rocker about everything. So it's a mater of opinion. My panties are in a wad Zit because I have morals and life experience. And before anyone gets any ideas I'm straight as an arrow. Were I gay I would proudly proclaim it right here. And if you think I'm mean now...... On the science we disagree. And many scientists disagree with your scientists. I went to Penn State 1978-82. Took many pysch courses. The consensus was gays are born that way among the professors I had, all with doctorates. The reason you search for studies that support your beliefs is because for the way you CHOOSE to worship God you need homosexuality to be termed a disease.
Sigh. You don't even try to comprehend do you? Go ask any Jewish person, Orthodox or not - or ANY Christian of ANY denomination if the Old Testament Mosaic law applies to Jews or Gentiles today. Sigh.
Scott,
You can pretend all you want, but there damn well are victims in societies shoving homosexuality down our throats.
1. The breakdown of the traditional family - this one is huge
2. Increased mental and physical disease rates
3. Teaching kindergarteners about condoms, bananas, sodomy, oral sex...
4. Homosexuality marriage now? Polygamy and pedophilia is next, you mark my words, it's already happened elsewhere
5. Gay adoption is child abuse - The child IS the victim
6. Take a look at the SICKO fag parades in the open in California, parading their perversions in public, and you tell me there is no F'ing victims there?
Do you think some pre-teen or teen kid who is questioning his sexuality who watches that perversion is put in a healthy place, do you
think that shit is healthy for society?
Yeah, it's not so much allowing gays to bang each other in the back room, but shoving marriages in our face (illegally I might add) is BS.
You're saying the same thing as I am, that Jews and Gentiles of Today Do NOT follow all things in the Bible Literally. That they pick and choose what to take literally, and what not to. So why are you arguing this?
Dont want to turn this into a discussion of the Bible. Would like to ask you a question: From your perspective, how do the New Testament Gospels of the Bible relate to the Old Testament Law (which includes your reference to stoning virgins)?
You're saying the same thing as I am, that Jews and Gentiles of Today Do NOT follow all things in the Bible Literally. That they pick and choose what to take literally, and what not to. So why are you arguing this?
Waaaay above my pay grade dude. I'm no Bible expert. Just pointing out how many people pick and choose what to follow literally, what to reject. That seems to upset some people, and I don't get why? Just accept that you're a modern day thinker and are not going to blindly follow books written thousands of years ago. That's an admirable trait, IMO.
Scott,
You can pretend all you want, but there damn well are victims in societies shoving homosexuality down our throats.
1. The breakdown of the traditional family - this one is huge
2. Increased mental and physical disease rates
3. Teaching kindergarteners about condoms, bananas, sodomy, oral sex...
4. Homosexuality marriage now? Polygamy and pedophilia is next, you mark my words, it's already happened elsewhere
5. Gay adoption is child abuse - The child IS the victim
6. Take a look at the SICKO fag parades in the open in California, parading their perversions in public, and you tell me there is no F'ing victims there?
Do you think some pre-teen or teen kid who is questioning his sexuality who watches that perversion is put in a healthy place, do you
think that shit is healthy for society?
Yeah, it's not so much allowing gays to bang each other in the back room, but shoving marriages in our face (illegally I might add) is BS.
Do you even know what the word "literal" means in that context?
Jesus said that if your right eye offends you that you should rip it out. Do you think that should be taken literally? Or do you think perhaps he was using hyperbole to make a point? So using your inane, ignorant argument, anyone that doesn't rip their eyes out doesn't take the Bible "literally."
MANY others would say I'm COMPETELY off my rocker about EVERYTHING?
Ohhhh really?