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I didnt choose to be straight, it's what I am. I'm sure being gay is the same, they didn't choose that.

Thoughts/feelings/urges/desires/fantasies are less controllable.

Actions and behavior are very controllable.

So people should simply "be who they are" and act out every urge?

We are now creating coercive laws (not just for gays) which pander to the former while completely dismissing the latter.

Insane!
 

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Thoughts/feelings/urges/desires/fantasies are less controllable.

Actions and behavior are very controllable.

So people should simply "be who they are" and act out every urge?

We are now creating coercive laws (not just for gays) which pander to the former while completely dismissing the latter.

Insane!
No, I'm not saying they should act out every urge or should they have sex in the streets. Their are some nasty ppl out their, I'm talking about your normal gay person that gets up every morning like everyone else and goes to work and lives just like you but they happen to be gay and they can't help it.
 

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Joe, who are you to tell someone they have to act against their natural born inclinations? And actually gays wouldn't have to "flaunt it" if it weren't for intolerant people trying to push them back into the closet.

Every right you demand for yourself, they also deserve.


Most of them aren't sitting at home all day hitting 'refresh' in a room below the mental institution section of a gambling forum that 25 people view and screaming all day about the president being a Kenyan. Are you sure it's they who are insane?
 

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Scott, you and I both know being in the gay lifestyle is not like being born left-handed.

It's not a 'lifestyle' to be comfortable in your own skin and be who you are. But it is something kids kill themselves over because they can't change. And you don't choose with which hand you throw a frisbee or swing a bat either. That's why some call bisexuals switch hitters eh. You call it a choice because it interferes with your religious brainwashing.
 

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No, I'm not saying they should act out every urge or should they have sex in the streets. Their are some nasty ppl out their, I'm talking about your normal gay person that gets up every morning like everyone else and goes to work and lives just like you but they happen to be gay and they can't help it.

"Can't help it" infers something negative - a vice, as opposed to something liberating which gives pleasure. It's true, whether you are straight or gay, the former is dysfunctional and destructive, the latter is healthy and normal.

Do you see the difference?

Let me repeat this for anyone reading who has ever made the self-defeating childish argument of, "who would choose to be gay?"

Answer: nobody!

Even gays agree with this.

So why feed into a sexually deviancy?

Notice now normal people don't have a need to show their sexual enjoyment to the world.

What's the 'pride' bullshit about? Nothing. It's all a ruse and perversion of reality, and further attempt to dumb-down society even more than it already is.
 

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Scott, you and I both know being in the gay lifestyle is not like being born left-handed.

Just a ridiculous analogy - dare I say, fratfraud'esque.

A better one would be being born with a handicap, eg. only one arm. Everyone can see two is better than one, but lets stick our collective heads in the sand and brainwash kids into believing simply doesn't matter - hurray for equality, pride and diversity!
 

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Just a ridiculous analogy - dare I say, fratfraud'esque.

A better one would be being born with a handicap, eg. only one arm. Everyone can see two is better than one, but lets stick our collective heads in the sand and brainwash kids into believing simply doesn't matter - hurray for equality, pride and diversity!

And the Sharia, Joe Contrarian Style!
 

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[h=2]Judge strikes down Indiana ban on gay marriage[/h] Jun 25th 2014 12:15PM 74 Comments
By CHARLES WILSON

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- A federal judge has struck down Indiana's ban on gay marriage, calling it unconstitutional.
U.S. District Judge Richard Young ruled Wednesday that the state's ban violates the U.S. Constitution's equal-protection clause in a mixed ruling involving lawsuits from several gay couples.
It wasn't immediately clear whether the ruling means same-sex marriages can begin in the state.
The Indiana attorney general's office says it will appeal.
Federal courts across the country have struck down gay marriage bans recently, but many of those rulings are on hold pending appeal. Attorneys on both sides of the issue expect the matter to eventually land before the U.S. Supreme Court.
It also wasn't immediately clear what impact Wednesday's ruling might have on a faltering movement to add a gay marriage ban into the Indiana Constitution.
 

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Funny how people keep voting for traditional social norms and these radical fascist judges keep tearing them down.

The truth is, no matter how may phony 'rights' they conjure up, gays will never be able to procreate and gay adoption will always be considered child abuse.

This deviant social movement's assault against the nuclear family - ironically, a religious institution as old as time - is beyond revolting.
 

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I believe a human is born either gay or straight, they don’t have a decision to make.

Having said that I also think mother nature has played a cruel trick on humans. In the animal kingdom you don’t see bulls mating with bulls, they mate with cows. Rosters don’t mate with rosters, the mate with hens.

Somewhere in the evolutional process something ran amok in humans. We kill each other for many reasons but not for food. Animals only kill for subsistence.

In many ways animals are far more advanced than humans.
 
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[ another (brand new) study showing that gay parenting is NOT performing as well as traditional hetero parenting , DUH ]

[h=2]Same-Sex Parenting and High School Graduation Rates[/h]
The “no difference” mantra of mental health associations is failing the test of better research​
by Christopher Rosik, Ph.D.



A new study in the Review of Economics of the Household (Allen, 2013) is challenging the conventional wisdom of there being “no differences” in the range of outcomes for children who live in a household with same-sex parents compared to children who live with married opposite-sex parents. Whereas the research on same-sex parents to date has overwhelmingly been conducted on small samples of mostly lesbian couples, often by lesbian-identified researchers, Allen’s study employs a truly impressive 20% random sample of the 2006 Canadian census. At the time of this census, Canada’s same-sex couples had enjoyed all taxation and government benefits since 1997 and legal same-sex marriage since 2005.

Such a large and random sample that is able to distinguish same-sex couples is critical for a number of reasons. Allen observes that the literature on child development in same-sex households is lacking on several grounds:

First, the research is characterized by levels of advocacy, policy endorsement, and awareness of political consequences that is disproportionate with the strength and substance of the preliminary empirical findings. Second, the literature generally utilizes measures of child and family performance that are not easily verifiable by third party replication, which vary from one study to another in ways that make comparisons difficult, and which differ substantially from measures standardly used in other family studies. But most important, almost all of the literature on same-sex parenting (which almost always means lesbian parenting) is based on some combination of weak empirical designs, small biased convenience samples, “snowballing,” and low powered tests.

“Power” in this context is a statistical term for the ability of a test to identify actual differences. With small sample sizes, only the largest of differences can be detected and there is a very real risk that many significant differences will be missed. This creates a serious bias in the direction of the “no differences” conclusion. Allen’s review of 53 studies on same-sex parenting found almost all to be non-random designs and only two had sample sizes larger than 500. Many of these studies had samples sizes between 30-60. To place this issue in proper context, Allen noted that to properly test any hypothesis regarding gay parenting, a sample size of at least 800 is necessary. The author concludes, “A review of the same-sex parenting literature inevitably leads to the conclusion that it is a collection of exploratory studies.”

Allen’s use of the Canada census data allowed him to examine and control for many variables whose influences heretofore could not be clearly discerned. These include controls for parental marital status, family mobility (i.e., recent change in residence), child school attendance, and parental education. The study was also able to distinguish between gay and lesbian families and evaluate differences in gender between parents and children. This high level of analytical resolution constitutes a large step forward in the advancement of the same-sex parenting literature.

Overall, Allen emphasized three primary features of his sample: children of married opposite-sex families have a high graduation rate compared to the others; children of lesbian families have a very low graduation rate compared to the others; and the other four types (common law heterosexual couple, single mother, single father, and gay male couple) are similar to each other and lie in between the married opposite-sex household and lesbian household extremes. Allen summarizes his findings on the effect of parent and child genders in same-sex households as follows:

…the results on high school graduation rates suggest that children living in both gay and lesbian households struggle compared to children from opposite sex married households. In general, it appears that these children are only about 65% as likely to graduate from high school compared to the [married opposite-sex] control group—a difference that holds whether conditioned on controls or not. When the households are broken down by child gender it appears that daughters are struggling more than sons, and that daughters of gay [male] parents have strikingly low graduation rates.

The latter conclusions are worthy of greater clarity, because they are the first findings that can really address the effects of fatherlessness or motherlessness on boys and girls in same-sex households. These data indicate that the specific gender mix of a same-sex household makes a “dramatic difference” in the association with child graduation. Girls in lesbian households were only 45% as likely to graduate compared to girls from homes with both a mother and a father. More strikingly, girls from gay male households were only 15% as likely to graduate as girls from an opposite-sex household. A parallel comparison for boys in lesbian households found them to be 76% as likely to graduate as their male peers in opposite-sex households. Finally, boys in gay male households were found to be 61% more likely to graduate than boys in opposite-sex households. However, Allen added that the results for boys, unlike those for girls, were not statistically significant.

Looking at these differences from another angle, Allen’s findings indicated that in gay male households, sons achieved a 72% graduation rate and daughters achieved a 43% graduation rate. For lesbian households, the graduate rates were 48% for boys and 55% for girls. Allen notes that such differences seem inconsistent with blanket claims of discrimination as an explanation for these findings, which he summarizes as indicating “sons do better with fathers, and daughters do better with mothers.”

For all the advances this study represents in the gay parenting literature, its methodological limitations included an inability to (1) track the household history of children, (2) establish the birth circumstances of the children studied (i.e., whether the child came to the couple via adoption, surrogacy, or prior heterosexual union), (3) identify children living with a gay or lesbian single parent, and (4) separate married from common law gay and lesbian couples. Future studies would ideally also assess for experiences of harassment at school to determine the extent to which such experiences could influence the graduation rates among the children of same-sex parents. As Allen observes, the proper path forward in this literature is to do further research to understand the differences he has observed, not to continue the increasingly tenuous assertion of “no differences” in outcomes between children raised by same-sex or opposite-sex parents.

A final observation: it is worth noting that this important study was conducted by an economist and published within an economics-related journal. While this might seem somewhat odd, it may reflect the fact that there is currently far more ideological and political diversity in the field of economics than there is in any of the social sciences. Thus, one is likely to find much more viewpoint diversity and a concomitant greater ability to conduct and publish research among economists on subjects that may work against the advocacy interests of liberal social causes. The harassment, character assassination, misconduct investigations, and professional marginalization endured by Regnerus over his recent study of same-sex parenting may be less likely to occur among economists than mental health professionals (Woods, 2013). In fact, it is conceivable that economists will end up doing the work that social scientists in the mental health disciplines have neglected, at least until research such as Allen’s is sufficiently replicated and it becomes increasingly untenable for the mental health professionals to maintain the “no differences" mantra.

References

Allen, D. W. (2013). High school graduation rates among children of same-sex households. Review of Economics of the Household. Advance online publication. doi: 10.007/s11150-013-9220-y

Wood, P. (2013). The campaign to discredit Regnerus and the assault on peer review. Academic Questions, 26, 171-181. doi: 10.1077/s12129-013-9364-5
 
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I believe a human is born either gay or straight, they don’t have a decision to make.

Having said that I also think mother nature has played a cruel trick on humans. In the animal kingdom you don’t see bulls mating with bulls, they mate with cows. Rosters don’t mate with rosters, the mate with hens.

Somewhere in the evolutional process something ran amok in humans. We kill each other for many reasons but not for food. Animals only kill for subsistence.

In many ways animals are far more advanced than humans.

You don't really believe this. People make decisions about their sexual activity all the time. I just posted an article yesterday where this famous pop star decided she didn't want to be bisexual any more. So, using your thinking, was she born bisexual or not? If not, then was she lying when she lead the bisexual lifestyle for years?
 

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I believe a human is born either gay or straight, they don’t have a decision to make.

Having said that I also think mother nature has played a cruel trick on humans. In the animal kingdom you don’t see bulls mating with bulls, they mate with cows. Rosters don’t mate with rosters, the mate with hens.

Somewhere in the evolutional process something ran amok in humans. We kill each other for many reasons but not for food. Animals only kill for subsistence.

In many ways animals are far more advanced than humans.

Plenty of homo behavior in the animal kingdom.
 

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You don't really believe this. People make decisions about their sexual activity all the time. I just posted an article yesterday where this famous pop star decided she didn't want to be bisexual any more. So, using your thinking, was she born bisexual or not? If not, then was she lying when she lead the bisexual lifestyle for years?

She probably did it because she wants to be recognized for her music and not her sexuality and was tired of being asked about it. But I'm not surprised you'd use one "conversion" and apply it to the entire human race.

Thanks for the "Study" you posted. Over/Under on readers of that post besides you = 1 UNDER -125
 

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Funny how people keep voting for traditional social norms and these radical fascist judges keep tearing them down.

The truth is, no matter how may phony 'rights' they conjure up, gays will never be able to procreate and gay adoption will always be considered child abuse.

This deviant social movement's assault against the nuclear family - ironically, a religious institution as old as time - is beyond revolting.


Funny how the Far Right wants the government out of their lives while they dictate to everyone else their rules for living eh.
 
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She probably did it because she wants to be recognized for her music and not her sexuality and was tired of being asked about it. But I'm not surprised you'd use one "conversion" and apply it to the entire human race.

Thanks for the "Study" you posted. Over/Under on readers of that post besides you = 1 UNDER -125

Plenty of pro-gay posters posting anecdotal evidence, wonder why you never commented negatively on that? Fact is, people make sexuality decisions all the time.
 

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Plenty of pro-gay posters posting anecdotal evidence, wonder why you never commented negatively on that? Fact is, people make sexuality decisions all the time.

No, they don't. They decide who to sleep with, not who they are NATURE-ALLY sexually attracted to.

Your first sentence is referring to what exactly?
 
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Funny how the Far Right wants the government out of their lives while they dictate to everyone else their rules for living eh.

Non sequitur. Fags can bang each other up the ass all they want and no one cares. Reality is, they want to change the centuries old definition of marriage, while shoving their lifestyle down everyone's throats.

If anything, it's the PC liberals who want to dictate rules for living nowadays. If you don't subscribe to their ideology, you are labelled a racist and a bigot, and they'd just as soon slit your throat.
 
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No, they don't. They decide who to sleep with, not who they are NATURE-ALLY sexually attracted to.

Your first sentence is referring to what exactly?

Bullshit. But, keep believing your little fairy-tale. I already posted about bisexual woman who decided not to be bisexual any more. Would you like me to post countless others who have done the same/
 

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