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And on a Truly, Sincere note, since when did any form of "Hate" for any reason whatsoever come to be a happily-expressed attitude for anyone (I'm including me in this) who professes to wish to follow the tenets of The Prince of Peace?
 

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The Prince of Peace?
this guy?

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holy shit are you dense

muslim = person that believes in islam through the words written in the Qur'an which they believe to be the word of God, verbatim

you just explained to us that you "do hate their religion and their "holy" book"

thus, you hate Muslims...you can't NOT hate muslims if you hate their religion and the Qur'an. They are inseparable.

my god, the mental illness and ignorance of some of you freaks!

100% bullshit.

You can hate someone's views without hating the person.

If one of my kids (god forbid) ended up being a flaming leftist liberal, I would hate those views, but I would still love my child.

Can I be any more crystal clear?
 
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Well if we're to accept this testimony along with your oft-expressed belief that the "vast majority of Muslins" are Evil, Radical Terrorist Threats to not only central Texas USA but (gulp) central FL USA and of course (gulp gulp) central PA USA, then we can now agree that you Don't Hate hate at least a few hundred Muslims in the whole world of 1.5B+

Not sure what a Muslin is... but I never said the "vast majority of them" are evil, radical terrorist threats.... You guys are putting words in my mouth over and over.
 

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100% bullshit.

You can hate someone's views without hating the person.

If one of my kids (god forbid) ended up being a flaming leftist liberal, I would hate those views, but I would still love my child.

Can I be any more crystal clear?

sorry fella but you're as clear as milk

i'm not going through the reasoning again just look above

you cannot hate a catholic's religion and bible without hating catholics. their religion and their bible is exactly what makes them catholics.

I think you and scott need to get together for a good old fashion Qur'an burning. I'll bring the mini USA flags on sticks and some popcorn

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sorry fella but you're as clear as milk

i'm not going through the reasoning again just look above

you cannot hate a catholic's religion and bible without hating catholics. their religion and their bible is exactly what makes them catholics.

I think you and scott need to get together for a good old fashion Qur'an burning. I'll bring the mini USA flags on sticks and some popcorn

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Talk about being dense and pig-headed.

I gave you a crystal clear illustration that shows your assumptions to be faulty, but you decide to hold to them anyway.

Carry on.
 

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RT, you are a dimwitted dickhead. How did it make you feel when you were accused of being anti-Semitic? Maybe the other posters are right, since you like to attack the poster who supports Israel's right to exist. Yep, you took an unnecessary shot at me. And uh-huh, it was below the belt. How many times is that?

What if these other fundamentalist countries were like Israel? Would we be having this discussion? No, of course not. The US and Israel are fighting dictatorships and a murderous ideology that's main crime is they suffocate their own people. Most are ordinary people who I would like to see freed, because it would be good for both us and them, as free societies are not likely to foment radicalism and train nutballs to hijack planes and fly them into our buildings.

I am not the biggest fan of religion. I don't like doctrines that are interpreted by ordinary people that are used to tell us how God thinks we should live. But I do believe in a code of morality. And hatred toward Muslims is not part of that code. I'll make it simple for ya fella. Any Muslim who doesn't wish to see the United States consumed by a ball of fire is an ally of mine.
 
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RT, you are a dimwitted dickhead. How did it make you feel when you were accused of being anti-Semitic? Maybe the other posters are right, since you like to attack the poster who supports Israel's right to exist. Yep, you took an unnecessary shot at me. And uh-huh, it was below the belt. How many times is that?

What if these other fundamentalist countries were like Israel? Would we be having this discussion? No, of course not. The US and Israel are fighting dictatorships and a murderous ideology that's main crime is they suffocate their own people. Most are ordinary people who I would like to see freed, because it would be good for both us and them, as free societies are not likely to foment radicalism and train nutballs to hijack planes and fly them into our buildings.

I am not the biggest fan of religion. I don't like doctrines that are interpreted by ordinary people that are used to tell us how God thinks we should live. But I do believe in a code of morality. And hatred toward Muslims is not part of that code. I'll make it simple for ya fella. Any Muslim who doesn't wish to see the United States consumed by a ball of fire is an ally of mine.


Seems pretty crystal clear to me, I wonder if any apologies will be forth-coming? Somehow I doubt it.
 

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well Zit you actually you both owe me a debt of gratitude for showcasing to the forum how your Islamophobia has turned into outright hate (your word, fella) ... or I'm sorry, you actually only hate Muslims that practice their religion based on that pesky book

complete and total nutjob

(you guys want me to bring the zippo and butane too?)
 

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RT, you are a dimwitted dickhead. How did it make you feel when you were accused of being anti-Semitic? Maybe the other posters are right, since you like to attack the poster who supports Israel's right to exist.

well the first time in my life I become a complete fn moron like Zit and type something like "I don't hate jews i just hate Judaism and the Hebrew Bible" you can fire away with that term...

btw, as you know, i fully support Israel's right to exist and both appreciate and understand the need for them to have some sort of protectorate (USA and some Euro nations) as they're surrounding by folks that don't particularly like them. I just also see they don't particularly like the folks around them and believe this is a lose-lose situation all around with no easy solution in sight. You routinely disparage Iran but the fact is they've not invaded a country since the 1700's which is certainly not something either the USA or Israel can say.
 

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Fest Zit asking for an apology. I've seen it all now. Hey zit...maybe if you apologize for your countless threads that have been exposed as flat out lies and distortions you will get one.
 
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well Zit you actually you both owe me a debt of gratitude for showcasing to the forum how your Islamophobia has turned into outright hate (your word, fella) ... or I'm sorry, you actually only hate Muslims that practice their religion based on that pesky book

complete and total nutjob

(you guys want me to bring the zippo and butane too?)

You're the PC nut-job. Their book clearly tells them to kill Christians & Jews, of which I am one. So, for those that take that command literally, I think hatred is very appropriate.
 

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well the first time in my life I become a complete fn moron like Zit and type something like "I don't hate jews i just hate Judaism and the Hebrew Bible" you can fire away with that term...

btw, as you know, i fully support Israel's right to exist and both appreciate and understand the need for them to have some sort of protectorate (USA and some Euro nations) as they're surrounding by folks that don't particularly like them. I just also see they don't particularly like the folks around them and believe this is a lose-lose situation all around with no easy solution in sight. You routinely disparage Iran but the fact is they've not invaded a country since the 1700's which is certainly not something either the USA or Israel can say.

Spot on fucking post here girls and boys. Good stuff RT
 

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You're the PC nut-job. Their book clearly tells them to kill Christians & Jews, of which I am one. So, for those that take that command literally, I think hatred is very appropriate.


This issue of Islamic terrorism lies strictly in lack of education, innovation and poverty. Sure there is rich terrorists who take up causes but the vast majority are poor and uneducated. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, scratch that, overwhelming majority. Thats the rub. You can find literally just as equal disturbing passages in the Old Testament that say very similar thing about killing non believers in the like and i know because i have read it. I have read some of the Koran, but from what i have came across it appears similar to the Bible. You have been on record here at some point saying you never read the koran but you have read books by ex Muslims condemning the religion. That's about as close minded as it gets. Now lets spin this. If we were dirt poor and all we had was barley enough to eat no jobs, no education and the Bible, what do you suppose would happen? Would you think its possible that a very small minority might take the book literally? Of course they would, its an absolute mathematical probability.

The Bible clearly tells to kill others who dont believe in that God... but i dont see you doing it? Just as i dont see the vast majority of muslims doing it either, yet your constant throbbing for the religion's population persists. I personally have no use for religion and that one in particular is one that holds people back, mainly women... but i dont hate the people. You do and you dont even know why? If 98% of the muslims are good people who all want what we want, then why hate them? You have never read the book, but will defend your book that clearly says the same things but wont act upon it because you have an education and a good life. Its about as hypocritical as it gets.
 

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^^^QFT.......(heh)
 
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This issue of Islamic terrorism lies strictly in lack of education, innovation and poverty. Sure there is rich terrorists who take up causes but the vast majority are poor and uneducated. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, scratch that, overwhelming majority. Thats the rub. You can find literally just as equal disturbing passages in the Old Testament that say very similar thing about killing non believers in the like and i know because i have read it. I have read some of the Koran, but from what i have came across it appears similar to the Bible. You have been on record here at some point saying you never read the koran but you have read books by ex Muslims condemning the religion. That's about as close minded as it gets. Now lets spin this. If we were dirt poor and all we had was barley enough to eat no jobs, no education and the Bible, what do you suppose would happen? Would you think its possible that a very small minority might take the book literally? Of course they would, its an absolute mathematical probability.

The Bible clearly tells to kill others who dont believe in that God... but i dont see you doing it? Just as i dont see the vast majority of muslims doing it either, yet your constant throbbing for the religion's population persists. I personally have no use for religion and that one in particular is one that holds people back, mainly women... but i dont hate the people. You do and you dont even know why? If 98% of the muslims are good people who all want what we want, then why hate them? You have never read the book, but will defend your book that clearly says the same things but wont act upon it because you have an education and a good life. Its about as hypocritical as it gets.

You fuck-wads keep putting words in my mouth, when I made my position crystal clear.

I don't hate any peaceful/moderate Muslim, I already stated that in no uncertain terms a few posts back, but you ass-clowns would rather distort people's views to try and bolster your points.

Sorry Fletch, but you're being an asshole - both you and Rolltide. It'd be one thing if you accurately portrayed my position and went off on it, but you assholes are blatantly lying about my position.
 

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This issue of Islamic terrorism lies strictly in lack of education, innovation and poverty. Sure there is rich terrorists who take up causes but the vast majority are poor and uneducated. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, scratch that, overwhelming majority. Thats the rub. You can find literally just as equal disturbing passages in the Old Testament that say very similar thing about killing non believers in the like and i know because i have read it. I have read some of the Koran, but from what i have came across it appears similar to the Bible. You have been on record here at some point saying you never read the koran but you have read books by ex Muslims condemning the religion. That's about as close minded as it gets. Now lets spin this. If we were dirt poor and all we had was barley enough to eat no jobs, no education and the Bible, what do you suppose would happen? Would you think its possible that a very small minority might take the book literally? Of course they would, its an absolute mathematical probability.

The Bible clearly tells to kill others who dont believe in that God... but i dont see you doing it? Just as i dont see the vast majority of muslims doing it either, yet your constant throbbing for the religion's population persists. I personally have no use for religion and that one in particular is one that holds people back, mainly women... but i dont hate the people. You do and you dont even know why? If 98% of the muslims are good people who all want what we want, then why hate them? You have never read the book, but will defend your book that clearly says the same things but wont act upon it because you have an education and a good life. Its about as hypocritical as it gets.

Not a bad argument, but apples and oranges. Mexicans for instance, extremely poor and uneducated are catholic / Christian. Are they taking the old testament literally and killing the non believers of their God? No.
 

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I lived in Minneapolis when 9-11 happened. I witnessed Somalis right next to the U of M handing out candy on 9-12. They were indeed non violent to my knowledge.
 
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Not a bad argument, but apples and oranges. Mexicans for instance, extremely poor and uneducated are catholic / Christian. Are they taking the old testament literally and killing the non believers of their God? No.

Besides, it's a complete lie to say the Bible makes general commands for all Jews/Christians to kill all unbelievers. Makes a nice little fairy-tale though.

They also don't want to mention that Islam is a fascist ideology, there is no separation of church and state in Islam. The goal of Islam is Sharia Law for all, to state otherwise is to lie.
 

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