ProPokerPlayer said:
This is the link, but the instructions I have say that it they can be connected to any. It says if it runs in reverse switch any 2. http://www.americanrotary.com/pages.php?pageid=2&mode=preview
You know as much as you pd for that thing and seeing as problems caused by hooking it up wrong are not covered by a warranty you might want to get an elec to do that......a REAL elec......these guys that wire houses have never heard of 3 phase..3 phase isnt a hot and neutral type of thing in fact there are different ways of wiring 3 phase equip itself....ask a potential Electrician if he knows the differance between Y wiring and DELTA wiring....if he doesn't he dont know 3 phase...
Here's the schematic assuming the taps are made right in the motor.
http://www.americanrotary.com/images/rotarywiringdiagrams.pdf
http://www.americanrotary.com/images/rotarywiringdiagrams.pdf
ProPokerPlayer said:
I will do that tommorrow. If it doesn't work I'll break down and get somebody out here. I didn't know 3 phase was such a complicated thing. Without an understanding of how 3 phase works, It still seems like something I should be able to make work with the provided diagrams, which themselves are not that complicated. I'll recheck everything again.
Thanks for everyones help.
It bothers me when I don't get a resolution to a problem. I keep at it.
I would make sure it's wired exactly as the diagram (wiring that is) says.
Coming off of your T1, T2, and T3 terminals, phases are being created. A,B,and C. If you have to mark the end of those wires on both ends, A,B,C I'd start with that. Having phases mixed up all over will cause the problems you're having. I'd check the motor to see if it runs right after you get those straight. If they do, then you're in the house. Then you'd just have to take the machine load and hook them onto the lugs.
I would make sure it's wired exactly as the diagram (wiring that is) says.
Coming off of your T1, T2, and T3 terminals, phases are being created. A,B,and C. If you have to mark the end of those wires on both ends, A,B,C I'd start with that. Having phases mixed up all over will cause the problems you're having. I'd check the motor to see if it runs right after you get those straight. If they do, then you're in the house. Then you'd just have to take the machine load and hook them onto the lugs.
AngleBroom said:
There is no manual for the machine...this is all I have for it.
2HP 3Phase 208-230V Connect leads T1, T2, T3 to line
The converter... http://www.americanrotary.com/product.php?productid=8
Hers the deal on hooking up the load....T1,2, and 3 do not have all the same voltage....when using a voltmeter and going to ground 2 leads will read 110v 1 will read 240v.... that 3rd leg is what makes it 3 phase and is called the 'wild' leg......i have never seen , not saying with this new equip there isnt something i havent heard of but ive never seen a wiring diagram that didnt specify which terminal the "wild " leg should go to....although i have seen diagrams where this leg is generaly referred to as T3..
And to Angle Broom...didnt mean any offense, just after looking at the diagrams and pics i like you thought that this looks so simple that in my experiance anyway he's got some basic part entirely wrong...not that he couldnt get it eventually with your help but with the breaker blowing and the motor getting hott and cutting off i have a feeling he's already damaged this thing that im sure cost some big bucks.....sometimes that $150 to get it done right the 1st time is the cheapest way around the problem...
And to Angle Broom...didnt mean any offense, just after looking at the diagrams and pics i like you thought that this looks so simple that in my experiance anyway he's got some basic part entirely wrong...not that he couldnt get it eventually with your help but with the breaker blowing and the motor getting hott and cutting off i have a feeling he's already damaged this thing that im sure cost some big bucks.....sometimes that $150 to get it done right the 1st time is the cheapest way around the problem...
ProPokerPlayer. The converter cost $500 with shipping so it is not that huge of an expense to deem it worthwhile for me to get an electrician out here...which btw would cost $100 just to get him to my door because of the travel.
Anyway PPP here is why I said what I said about t1,2,and 3 not mattering what they are hooked up to. I might have misenterpreted it but I'll post so you can see.....
Pair up the following leads: (1&7, 2&8, 3&9) to one of the T1, T2, or T3 output lines. Leads 4,5,6 are bolted together as one electrical point and then insulate. First hook up the pairs (1&7, 2&8, 3&9) to T1,T2, and T3. Measure and record your line voltage. Now hook the pairs in the order of T1, T3, T2, and record the line to line voltage. Finally hook the pairs in the order of T2, T3, T1 and record the voltage. One of thes combinations will give the best line to line voltage balance.
Voltage to ground...Lines T1 and T2 are the same as L1 and L2, your single phase lines. They will read approx 120V. T3 references a floating ground and will read somewhere between 190 and 210V. This is normal. Make sure all controls run from either L1 and L2, or T1 and T2.
Anyway...the problem is that I had the outlet hooked up wrong. I unhooked it again and the generator ran fine. Whether it is running the right direction I have no idea...how do you tell when you can't seen any moving parts. So that is where my experience ends...I am used to 2 hots so it doesn't matter where they go in the outlet. I thought it would be the same with this but obviously I was wrong.
So on the outlet I have X,W,Y, and ground and other than the ground I don't know what goes where.
Anyway PPP here is why I said what I said about t1,2,and 3 not mattering what they are hooked up to. I might have misenterpreted it but I'll post so you can see.....
Pair up the following leads: (1&7, 2&8, 3&9) to one of the T1, T2, or T3 output lines. Leads 4,5,6 are bolted together as one electrical point and then insulate. First hook up the pairs (1&7, 2&8, 3&9) to T1,T2, and T3. Measure and record your line voltage. Now hook the pairs in the order of T1, T3, T2, and record the line to line voltage. Finally hook the pairs in the order of T2, T3, T1 and record the voltage. One of thes combinations will give the best line to line voltage balance.
Voltage to ground...Lines T1 and T2 are the same as L1 and L2, your single phase lines. They will read approx 120V. T3 references a floating ground and will read somewhere between 190 and 210V. This is normal. Make sure all controls run from either L1 and L2, or T1 and T2.
Anyway...the problem is that I had the outlet hooked up wrong. I unhooked it again and the generator ran fine. Whether it is running the right direction I have no idea...how do you tell when you can't seen any moving parts. So that is where my experience ends...I am used to 2 hots so it doesn't matter where they go in the outlet. I thought it would be the same with this but obviously I was wrong.
So on the outlet I have X,W,Y, and ground and other than the ground I don't know what goes where.
