Hey fhmesq, I've got a question for you:
While playing all of these systems as well as another that is posted elsewhere, I have encountered conflicting plays. For instance, one system says go for a certain team and another system says that I should fade that certain team. What I have been doing in this case is making both plays, but at two different books.
Now, my question is .. would it be okay to place a bet on a particular team and then bet against that team immediately thereafter, or do you get kicked from books for doing that? I would like to stay with one book that I feel I can really trust as well as get my withdrawls VERY quickly, so that is why I am wondering this..
Thanks.
While playing all of these systems as well as another that is posted elsewhere, I have encountered conflicting plays. For instance, one system says go for a certain team and another system says that I should fade that certain team. What I have been doing in this case is making both plays, but at two different books.
Now, my question is .. would it be okay to place a bet on a particular team and then bet against that team immediately thereafter, or do you get kicked from books for doing that? I would like to stay with one book that I feel I can really trust as well as get my withdrawls VERY quickly, so that is why I am wondering this..
Thanks.
Books actually don't mind this kind of activity as long as the bets are done in a short time frame. They figure that you are actually realizing you have made a mistake and 'buying back' the bet. You pay vig for each bet (not just when you win and take the won wager from the book).
That said, you would be better off to try to stick to different books if you have the time to monitor the lines and make the 2 different bets at 2 books. Perhaps you can get one for -152 at Book A... then that favorite goes up a little bit to -160 & you bet the underdog at +150 at Book B. It ends up only a 2 cent difference.
Books only scream when you pay -134 for a team then after steam, the other team is now +139 at the same book & you make the 2nd bet hours later. That's scalping-in-stealing-way-against-same-book. A no-no.
(P.S. I salivated at a scalp opportunity but passed on it today... I had a personal bet on PIT at -134 at BetJam... today saw many books had ARI at +139 including BetJam. Chose to leave my PIT bet alone.)
* CalvinTy
Intrinzik,
Calvin is right, they won't care if you play both. However, there is a better way to do it. Typically if my plays are conflicting I will post how to play the conflicting plays so you don't double play. Unfortunately today I didn't realize I missed the one play until it was too late.
In the future, if you are supposed to win more on the favorite than you are supposed to risk on the dog, don't play the dog at all and reduce the amount to win on the favorite by what you were supposed to risk on the dog. e.g., Cubs -135 to win 2 and CWS +125 to win 1 should be Cubs 270 to win 200 and CWS 80 to win 100. Instead play Cubs to win 1.2 and don't play CWS. This will equate to you playing the Cubs for 1.2 at -135 and .8 at -125 and CWS to win 1 at +125.
If you are supposed to win more on the dog than you supposed to risk on the dog, reduce the amount to win on the dog by the amount to risk on the favorite and don't play the favorite.
Hope that helps. Basically it saves you the juice on the amount of the play that conflicts.
Will update record and post night games in the morning.
Morning plays are:
Saturday plays
Mo< - Mets -128 (game 2, fade NYY) 2.2272 to win 1.74
Mo< - White Sox +118 (game 2, fade Cubs) 1.5169 to win 1.79
Saturday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Calvin is right, they won't care if you play both. However, there is a better way to do it. Typically if my plays are conflicting I will post how to play the conflicting plays so you don't double play. Unfortunately today I didn't realize I missed the one play until it was too late.
In the future, if you are supposed to win more on the favorite than you are supposed to risk on the dog, don't play the dog at all and reduce the amount to win on the favorite by what you were supposed to risk on the dog. e.g., Cubs -135 to win 2 and CWS +125 to win 1 should be Cubs 270 to win 200 and CWS 80 to win 100. Instead play Cubs to win 1.2 and don't play CWS. This will equate to you playing the Cubs for 1.2 at -135 and .8 at -125 and CWS to win 1 at +125.
If you are supposed to win more on the dog than you supposed to risk on the dog, reduce the amount to win on the dog by the amount to risk on the favorite and don't play the favorite.
Hope that helps. Basically it saves you the juice on the amount of the play that conflicts.
Will update record and post night games in the morning.
Morning plays are:
Saturday plays
Mo< - Mets -128 (game 2, fade NYY) 2.2272 to win 1.74
Mo< - White Sox +118 (game 2, fade Cubs) 1.5169 to win 1.79
Saturday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Saturday, May 18:
Friday Results:
Mo< - White Sox +128 lost 6-3 for -.7874
Mo< - Mets -102 won 3-2 for +2.37
4DRD - Cubs -137 won 6-3 for +2.3
<8 - White Sox u7.5 -105 over 3-6 for -1.05
4DHF - Cubs -137 won 6-3 for +1
3SRD - Phillies -161 won 5-3 for +1
<9.5 - Reds -110 over 4-9 for -4.51
4DRD - Rockies -168 lost 5-2 for -1.68
<8 - Dodgers -115 over 1-9 for -5.0715
Total - 4-5 for -6.4289
All others were no plays.
Series Record 173-3
Play Record 173-119-17
Game Record 139-101-15
Units +69.8343 or +$6983.43
Saturday plays (including early games as previously posted)
Mo< - Mets -128 (game 2, fade NYY) 2.2272 to win 1.74
Mo< - White Sox +118 (game 2, fade Cubs) 1.5169 to win 1.79
Saturday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Angels >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
Angels <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Dodgers <8 to win 9.48 if 8 or less
4DRD - Angels to win 1 if LAD +110 or more
Nationals <9.5 to win 2.2 if exactly 9.5
Orioles <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Phillies <8 to win 10.38 if 8 or less
Astros <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
Diamondbacks >9 to win 9.71 if exactly 9
Diamondbacks <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Rockies >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
4DRD - Rockies to win 2.68 if KC +110 or more
3SRD - Rockies to win 1 if KC +100 or more
Twins <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
Brewers <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Cardinals <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Reds <9.5 to win 4.1 if exactly 9
4DHF - A's to win 1 if -130 or more
3SHD - Padres to win 1 if Sea +100 or more
I may not be around to post for the second ATL/Bos game, the only possible play there is ATL >9 if the first game is 9, it stays under AND the second game is exactly 9.
G/L. Cubs/CWS is an early game.
Friday Results:
Mo< - White Sox +128 lost 6-3 for -.7874
Mo< - Mets -102 won 3-2 for +2.37
4DRD - Cubs -137 won 6-3 for +2.3
<8 - White Sox u7.5 -105 over 3-6 for -1.05
4DHF - Cubs -137 won 6-3 for +1
3SRD - Phillies -161 won 5-3 for +1
<9.5 - Reds -110 over 4-9 for -4.51
4DRD - Rockies -168 lost 5-2 for -1.68
<8 - Dodgers -115 over 1-9 for -5.0715
Total - 4-5 for -6.4289
All others were no plays.
Series Record 173-3
Play Record 173-119-17
Game Record 139-101-15
Units +69.8343 or +$6983.43
Saturday plays (including early games as previously posted)
Mo< - Mets -128 (game 2, fade NYY) 2.2272 to win 1.74
Mo< - White Sox +118 (game 2, fade Cubs) 1.5169 to win 1.79
Saturday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Angels >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
Angels <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Dodgers <8 to win 9.48 if 8 or less
4DRD - Angels to win 1 if LAD +110 or more
Nationals <9.5 to win 2.2 if exactly 9.5
Orioles <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Phillies <8 to win 10.38 if 8 or less
Astros <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
Diamondbacks >9 to win 9.71 if exactly 9
Diamondbacks <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Rockies >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
4DRD - Rockies to win 2.68 if KC +110 or more
3SRD - Rockies to win 1 if KC +100 or more
Twins <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
Brewers <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Cardinals <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Reds <9.5 to win 4.1 if exactly 9
4DHF - A's to win 1 if -130 or more
3SHD - Padres to win 1 if Sea +100 or more
I may not be around to post for the second ATL/Bos game, the only possible play there is ATL >9 if the first game is 9, it stays under AND the second game is exactly 9.
G/L. Cubs/CWS is an early game.
Sunday, May 19:
Saturday Results:
Mo< - White Sox +118 lost 11-6 for -1.5169
Mo< - Mets -128 won 10-7 for +1.74
<8 - Diamondbacks u7.5 -125 over 9-8 for -1.25
<9.5 - Astros -105 under 6-1 for +2.05
4DRD - Angels -149 won 6-2 for +1
<8 - Dodgers +100 push 2-6 for 00
<8 - Angels +100 push 6-2 for 00
4DHF - A's -145 won 4-2 for +1
3SHD - Padres -116 lost 7-4 for -1.16
Total - 4-3-2 for +1.8631
All others were no plays.
Series Record 177-3
Play Record 177-122-19
Game Record 143-104-16
Units +71.6974 or +$7169.74
Sunday plays
3SHD - Padres (game 2, fade Sea) to win 2.16
Sunday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Angels >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
Angels <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Dodgers <8 to win 9.48 if 8 or less
Nationals <9.5 to win 2.2 if exactly 9.5
Orioles <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Phillies <8 to win 10.38 if 8 or less
Diamondbacks >9 to win 9.71 if exactly 9
Diamondbacks <8 to win 2.25 if 8 or less
Rockies >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
4DRD - Rockies to win 2.68 if KC +110 or more
Twins <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
4DRD - Brewers to win 1 if Minn +110 or more
4DHF - Brewers to win 1 if -130 or more
Brewers <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Cardinals <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Reds <9.5 to win 4.1 if exactly 9
Pirates <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Braves <9.5 to win 1 if exactly 9.5
Red Sox <9.5 to win 1 if exactly 9.5
Mariners <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
G/L.
Saturday Results:
Mo< - White Sox +118 lost 11-6 for -1.5169
Mo< - Mets -128 won 10-7 for +1.74
<8 - Diamondbacks u7.5 -125 over 9-8 for -1.25
<9.5 - Astros -105 under 6-1 for +2.05
4DRD - Angels -149 won 6-2 for +1
<8 - Dodgers +100 push 2-6 for 00
<8 - Angels +100 push 6-2 for 00
4DHF - A's -145 won 4-2 for +1
3SHD - Padres -116 lost 7-4 for -1.16
Total - 4-3-2 for +1.8631
All others were no plays.
Series Record 177-3
Play Record 177-122-19
Game Record 143-104-16
Units +71.6974 or +$7169.74
Sunday plays
3SHD - Padres (game 2, fade Sea) to win 2.16
Sunday possible plays
White Sox <8 to win 2.05 if 8 or less
White Sox >9 to win 2.1 if exactly 9
Angels >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
Angels <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Dodgers <8 to win 9.48 if 8 or less
Nationals <9.5 to win 2.2 if exactly 9.5
Orioles <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Phillies <8 to win 10.38 if 8 or less
Diamondbacks >9 to win 9.71 if exactly 9
Diamondbacks <8 to win 2.25 if 8 or less
Rockies >9 to win 1 if exactly 9
4DRD - Rockies to win 2.68 if KC +110 or more
Twins <9.5 to win 2.05 if exactly 9.5
4DRD - Brewers to win 1 if Minn +110 or more
4DHF - Brewers to win 1 if -130 or more
Brewers <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Cardinals <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Reds <9.5 to win 4.1 if exactly 9
Pirates <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
Braves <9.5 to win 1 if exactly 9.5
Red Sox <9.5 to win 1 if exactly 9.5
Mariners <8 to win 1 if 8 or less
G/L.
Scimonji,
Check out posts 84 and 85. There was a Minn play that I missed that would have ended that series. I am just writing that -1.61 off and starting the series play new. If you want to play it as a continuation of that previous series, go ahead.
BTW, all, WNBA plays start today. Posted in the NBA forum.
