you guys are ok with this killing right?

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i have a feeling some of you guys are saying it's suspicous bc these are two white kids, one being a attractive girl. if it was 2 black kids, you would get a response of good riddance, hell yea they deserve it...i do agree he didnt have to kill them but you sleep with dogs, you'll get fleas. if you dont wanna be shot, stay the fck away from other people's property without their permission. i could give a fck about worrying someone shooting me in that fashion cause i'm honest and respect people. a little good that comes out of this is at least their retarded friends will think twice before breaking into someone else's home.

Are you even reading what is being said? As Enfuego said, this is not about race and you are the only one who brought up race. And no one has said the guy was wrong in defending himself and shooting these kids. It's about what this guy did after the threat was gone that bothers me. The boy was dead and the girl was no longer a threat, and still alive but he still felt the need to "execute" her by putting a bullet in her head. The guy had a right to defend himself, but he went way too far...
 

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Are you even reading what is being said? As Enfuego said, this is not about race and you are the only one who brought up race. And no one has said the guy was wrong in defending himself and shooting these kids. It's about what this guy did after the threat was gone that bothers me. The boy was dead and the girl was no longer a threat, and still alive but he still felt the need to "execute" her by putting a bullet in her head. The guy had a right to defend himself, but he went way too far...

Couldn't have said it better myself. Put yourself in his shoes for a second. You shoot and kill one intruder, you shoot and wound another but she's still alive but helpless. Could you really walk up to a young girl and shoot her under the chin like a damn dog?
 

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something fishy is going on here.

anyone that is 'protecting' their home would just use the force necessary, not go all med evil on their ass.

you don't go deer hunting, shoot a deer and then proceed to shoot it multiple times.

I bet this guy was a dealer, or loan shark or some kind of fence for stolen items, and these kids got in over their heads.

sniff test = fail
Very good point about drug dealer/fence possibility. Article said he'd been robbed before. Might even have been concerned about passed deals with these kids and eliminated them as witnesses.
 

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Give me a break man. If someone breaks into your home to steal from you, you have the right to shoot them. I am in my twenties, and I know that my generation is very touchy feely. But at some point you have to man up and admit that they deserved what they got, bottom line. This country is in a sad state when so many people are on the side of these kids and not the man protecting what is his. Maybe if more of these pieces of shit were dead the USA would be a better place. GOOD FOR HIM.

I bet no one else tries to rob him....
Sadly, he will probably be robbed in prison a lot.
 

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Has zero to do with his actions that night after he'd shot them.


look most likely he overreacted..but lets be serious here. you're at home alone and multiple people are breaking into your home. i'm sure 99% of you would act with a calm mind and handle it like chuck norris. the fact is we dont know what he went through or what he thought. maybe after the fact, he did embelish his story a little so he couldnt get in trouble with the law. like i said, dont want someone to shoot you in the face? how about following the law.
 

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Read a lot of this story here in MN, guy went too far. He had the right to shoot them but should of called the cops right away and not finish off the girl after dragging her next to her dead cousin. These kids have robbed other houses in the past and were on drugs. They are tied to 2 other burgleries and found the items they stoled in the teen's car. Feel bad for their families, but not for the 2 burglars/thiefs.
 

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look most likely he overreacted..but lets be serious here. you're at home alone and multiple people are breaking into your home. i'm sure 99% of you would act with a calm mind and handle it like chuck norris. the fact is we dont know what he went through or what he thought. maybe after the fact, he did embelish his story a little so he couldnt get in trouble with the law. like i said, dont want someone to shoot you in the face? how about following the law.

1) It doesn't matter what we was thinking or went through. After stopping the threat (which he did), the guy must stop his actions period, dot, end of story.

2) Shooting someone breaking into your house is one thing, placing the guy under their chin and killing them when they are injured is criminal.
 

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Read a lot of this story here in MN, guy went too far. He had the right to shoot them but should of called the cops right away and not finish off the girl after dragging her next to her dead cousin. These kids have robbed other houses in the past and were on drugs. They are tied to 2 other burgleries and found the items they stoled in the teen's car. Feel bad for their families, but not for the 2 burglars/thiefs.

Agree 100%.
 

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Three sides to every story. I wasn't there so I can only go off of what was reported. It reminds me when cops unload whole 17 round clip in a man with a knife. Sounds like he could have just called the police after disabling the threat, but I wasn't there so who knows how it went down. Who waits a day after to notify the authorites though?
 

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The guy did cross the line after she was down and put the kill shot into her skull.. I have no clue why he felt the need to do that but I am sure he had one that none of us will ever know. Situation does seem like there is more there than meets the eye...

I feel bad for the families of these kids but this is the consequences of their actions. they had problems and were doing some bad things
so getting shot probably never crossed their minds for a little stealing from people. unfortunately when you are on drugs and addicted to drugs you make bad choices.

Them being killed by this guy really does not bother me all that much. If you are going to hurt people and steal from them then anything can happen. how he did it I have a problem with. he should be charged with 2nd degree murder for going over board...

Maybe he snapped who knows but I think there is more to this story than meets the eye...
 

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Put yourself in his shoes for a second. You shoot and kill one intruder, you shoot and wound another but she's still alive but helpless. Could you really walk up to a young girl and shoot her under the chin like a damn dog?

I have a major problem with this. What is even more disturbing to me is the affinity I see for the act. It makes me realize how different we all are in ways I didn't think possible. The "kill shot" under the chin reminds me of texas chainsaw massacre. it's psychopathic. and to read that others think it's ok just sickens me. we are all wired quite differently... that's for sure
 

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I have a major problem with this. What is even more disturbing to me is the affinity I see for the act. It makes me realize how different we all are in ways I didn't think possible. The "kill shot" under the chin reminds me of texas chainsaw massacre. it's psychopathic. and to read that others think it's ok just sickens me. we are all wired quite differently... that's for sure

Agreed, I would never hesitate to shoot a human to protect me or my family but I'd only shoot to stop a threat. I know we are all human beings and we have to keep in mind these kids were into some bad stuff. Not everyone here on this board is a saint. We've probably all done something in life that deserves an ass kicking but to be shot and then have a man shoot you in the face is way beyond my comprehension. It's inhuman.
 

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get a .45 instead of a .22 and then one bullet does the job, now the victim has a big problem and may be in prison for life. you can't execute the wounded disabled burglar....get a real gun and blow them away first shot....no matter if white, black, female, young, whatever !

the bullet under the chin is way too much and this guy will pay for that shot ! Explain how that is self-defense ?

shoot em dead first shot, get a bigger gun.
 

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Heres the question I want to throw out there for all of those saying his final shot was too much. That he went wrong by shooting her three times instead of twice because he should have stopped when the threat was gone. So here's my question. How is an average person supposed to know when the "threat" is gone? I am not a police officer, in the military, or had any gun/combat training whatsoever. So, if this happened to me and I was being robbed, how the hell am I supposed to know that after 2 shots now I am safe? For all i know, after two shots, she could pull out her gun and shoot back. It would be really hard in the heat of the moment, without proper training, to know when the perpetrator is subdued.
 

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well when you can put your gun under her chin to deliver the fatal shot. you're kind of there.....but you have a valid point.

I sure would not want to defend myself in court on that last shot.

the delay in reporting it is bad as well.
 

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Heres the question I want to throw out there for all of those saying his final shot was too much. That he went wrong by shooting her three times instead of twice because he should have stopped when the threat was gone. So here's my question. How is an average person supposed to know when the "threat" is gone? I am not a police officer, in the military, or had any gun/combat training whatsoever. So, if this happened to me and I was being robbed, how the hell am I supposed to know that after 2 shots now I am safe? For all i know, after two shots, she could pull out her gun and shoot back. It would be really hard in the heat of the moment, without proper training, to know when the perpetrator is subdued.

Seriously stop every post you make gets dumber and dumber. This clearly wasnt the act of a frightened old man. This was the act of a sick f*ck. This isnt a freaking movie where a teenage girl can be shot twice and magically make it to her purse and start firing back. Any semi normal person would be freaked out by the fact they just shot 2 young kids. They would run out of the house looking for help. They wouldnt stay in the house and shoot a human being in the cranium, and take a day before alerting authorities. What sick world do you live in?
 

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Also Tom Cruise I call BS on your initial post that you wouldnt lose sleep over killing 2 kids. Unless you are a serial killer trust me you will lose sleep over killing another human whether warranted or not.
 

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well when you can put your gun under her chin to deliver the fatal shot. you're kind of there.....but you have a valid point.

I sure would not want to defend myself in court on that last shot.

the delay in reporting it is bad as well.[/QUOTE]

completely agree with that
 

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Seriously stop every post you make gets dumber and dumber. This clearly wasnt the act of a frightened old man. This was the act of a sick f*ck. This isnt a freaking movie where a teenage girl can be shot twice and magically make it to her purse and start firing back. Any semi normal person would be freaked out by the fact they just shot 2 young kids. They would run out of the house looking for help. They wouldnt stay in the house and shoot a human being in the cranium, and take a day before alerting authorities. What sick world do you live in?

thank you for making my point.

With no real gun training all a normal person would have to go off is what they see on movies/tv. And when it comes to someone possibly pulling out their gun and shooting me after they are wounded, I think I would tend to air on the side of caution, and make sure they can't do so.
 

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