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Something strange was happening. The two kids don't look like the types who would break into a house.

yeah, they're white !

what the hell is in that dump where somebody breaks in 8 times....that could push the homeowner to leaving bodies only...
 

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I defend my myself before my stuff, and sometimes the best course of action to defend myself, even if I have a gun in a knife fight, is to escape. If I am home alone (KEVIN!) and someone breaks in, I pop a round into them and they fall down my stairs, I get the F out and call the police. I sure as hell ain't going down the stairs to see if they have anything to say (or shoot me with).
 
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Lot of things dont add up in this story. I dont have a problem shooting home invaders of any sort, but when you go to extremes to cover it up then it makes you wonder what actually happened. Maybe its just me but i have a hard time believing that after she heard her friend shot multiple times then dragged off to the basement she just came casually walking down the stairs..Then laughed at him after she had already been shot once? I think they should be checking this guys house and yard for more bodies.....

+1; things just don't add up here.
 

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I defend my myself before my stuff, and sometimes the best course of action to defend myself, even if I have a gun in a knife fight, is to escape. If I am home alone (KEVIN!) and someone breaks in, I pop a round into them and they fall down my stairs, I get the F out and call the police. I sure as hell ain't going down the stairs to see if they have anything to say (or shoot me with).

ok but they ain't breaking in from below ground, so the guy was already in the basement, right ? I'd have no problem emptying my handgun into an intruder, but an unarmed white teenage girl wouldn't get that final shot.

You have to stop at some point !

I lived in some condos a few years back, they all look the same. I had a Russian neighbor that drank a bit, door usually unlocked. Dmitri walks into my unit instead of his next door, I'm not home at the time. Is my wife justified in filling him full of lead ?

NO ! just a simple error and no danger.

can I just shoot some kid that cuts across my corner lot ?

There has to be a stopping point in this self defense stuff....or just get a .45 magnum or something.

I 'm all for executing most felons doing life, but these kids were a bit short of that !

Explain the waiting time to me again ! Do you wait a day to report an auto accident ?
 

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wow you guys are all messed up, they look like little young innocent kids...shooting them and KILLING them is beyond messed up...shoot them in the leg, beat them repeatedly, but do not shoot them

they are kids, think about their families how they feel... wow
 

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The guy has the absolute right to protect himself in his home but what he did was way out of line.

Once you have stopped the imminent threat, you are done and must stop. From what I can tell, he walked over and shot her more times and a shot under the chin? Are you joking?

This guy had stopped the threat and then continued. He will go to jail for the rest of his life and he deserves everything he gets.
 

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Give me a break man. If someone breaks into your home to steal from you, you have the right to shoot them. I am in my twenties, and I know that my generation is very touchy feely. But at some point you have to man up and admit that they deserved what they got, bottom line. This country is in a sad state when so many people are on the side of these kids and not the man protecting what is his. Maybe if more of these pieces of shit were dead the USA would be a better place. GOOD FOR HIM.

I bet no one else tries to rob him....

You are dead wrong. If someone breaks into your home, picks up your TV and runs out the front door, you cannot shoot them in the back as they run away. And if you shoot someone, you must stop once the threat has been stopped.

Hey, maybe they deserved to get shot for breaking in but once you are shot once and on the ground and not moving, the situation is over. Nobody will try to rob him because he's going to jail, deserves to go to jail and will never be let out.
 

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The guy got robbed in oct of over 10 grand in guns and money, plus he's been robbed several other times the last few years, and some of you guys think he should play nice. Jesus, by the way, he is a retired former state dept employee who has served in russia and china. He's not just some nut living out in the sticks. Now you have some of their "classmates" saying it might? have been drug related...gee, ya think, that would explain why the girl apparently laughed when she was shot.

Now I agree he was a tad over the line putting that last shell in her brain, but that's a mere detail, she was going to die anyway if he'd shot her 3 or 4 times already. Bottom line is that people are hung up on the fact that 1 was a young girl, if it had been two crackhead brothers, no one would fault him a bit.
 

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The guy got robbed in oct of over 10 grand in guns and money, plus he's been robbed several other times the last few years, and some of you guys think he should play nice. Jesus, by the way, he is a retired former state dept employee who has served in russia and china. He's not just some nut living out in the sticks. Now you have some of their "classmates" saying it might? have been drug related...gee, ya think, that would explain why the girl apparently laughed when she was shot.

Now I agree he was a tad over the line putting that last shell in her brain, but that's a mere detail, she was going to die anyway if he'd shot her 3 or 4 times already. Bottom line is that people are hung up on the fact that 1 was a young girl, if it had been two crackhead brothers, no one would fault him a bit.

LOL, I don't think you or he are medical examiners and don't get to decide who is going to die or not from their injuries. It's simple, once the immediate threat is stopped, you must stop your action against them. He didn't do that.
 

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LOL, I don't think you or he are medical examiners and don't get to decide who is going to die or not from their injuries. It's simple, once the immediate threat is stopped, you must stop your action against them. He didn't do that.

I agree that was a tad over the line, he should get a severe warning for that.
 

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I agree that was a tad over the line, he should get a severe warning for that.

We don't give warnings for murder. Once on the ground and posing no threat to the homeowner, the action should be over. Guy went way over the line and will be charged with murder and rightfully so.
 

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How the F*** do you presume to know what is necessary when you weren't in the situation. I have no problem with him shooting her three times.


What would you have done wabash? Bend over?




btw it seems like the vast majority on this thread agree with me...
He did bend over to drag her?? Read it, "He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.

 

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The guy got robbed in oct of over 10 grand in guns and money, plus he's been robbed several other times the last few years, and some of you guys think he should play nice. Jesus, by the way, he is a retired former state dept employee who has served in russia and china. He's not just some nut living out in the sticks. Now you have some of their "classmates" saying it might? have been drug related...gee, ya think, that would explain why the girl apparently laughed when she was shot.

Now I agree he was a tad over the line putting that last shell in her brain, but that's a mere detail, she was going to die anyway if he'd shot her 3 or 4 times already. Bottom line is that people are hung up on the fact that 1 was a young girl, if it had been two crackhead brothers, no one would fault him a bit.
What are you a Doctor that has supper powers that can see from miles and miles away through walls to diagnose a patient situation?? People have been shot over 10 times and lived. It's not a flipping dog anyway. We are talking about a human life...
 
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How the F*** do you presume to know what is necessary when you weren't in the situation. I have no problem with him shooting her three times.


What would you have done wabash? Bend over?





btw it seems like the vast majority on this thread agree with me...

Starting to look like the vast majority agrees with me now.
 

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word coming out that these same 2 burglarized a house the prior night, stealing prescription meds.

http://www.startribune.com/local/181189391.html

This guy was a shady fvck...Why did he have so much drugs, and cash lying around and make himself an easy target if he was robbed so many times? Were the other robberies reported to police? He could have beat the shit out of both of them. He was only 64 years old hardly and old ass man. I hope he rots in jail.
 

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i have a feeling some of you guys are saying it's suspicous bc these are two white kids, one being a attractive girl. if it was 2 black kids, you would get a response of good riddance, hell yea they deserve it...i do agree he didnt have to kill them but you sleep with dogs, you'll get fleas. if you dont wanna be shot, stay the fck away from other people's property without their permission. i could give a fck about worrying someone shooting me in that fashion cause i'm honest and respect people. a little good that comes out of this is at least their retarded friends will think twice before breaking into someone else's home.
 

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i have a feeling some of you guys are saying it's suspicous bc these are two white kids, one being a attractive girl. if it was 2 black kids, you would get a response of good riddance, hell yea they deserve it...i do agree he didnt have to kill them but you sleep with dogs, you'll get fleas. if you dont wanna be shot, stay the fck away from other people's property without their permission. i could give a fck about worrying someone shooting me in that fashion cause i'm honest and respect people. a little good that comes out of this is at least their retarded friends will think twice before breaking into someone else's home.

Worst post of this entire thread. Nobody at all in this thread has made this a race issue and it doesn't need to be.
 

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