"It's the wacko environmentalists"... no wait, "It's the psycho environmentalists"... they won't let us drill in ANWR.
Gimme a break.
WITHOUT THE ENVIRONMENT... THERE IS NO ECONOMY PERIOD!
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Want the hard facts about ANWR? <o></o>
Lets see... 10 billion barrels of oil that will take 10 years to come online with peak production set at around oh... 2030 or so.
ANWR is the GRAND equivalent of 1.. (COUNT IT)... 1 year of supply for the continental <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">United States</st1lace></st1:country-region>.
ANWR is too little, too late. A completely futile effort that glosses over the true nature of the oil crisis at hand and panders solely to oil interests and members of the Bush Elite.<o></o>
"It's the wacko environmentalists"... no wait, "It's the psycho environmentalists"... they won't let us build refineries.<o></o>
More garbage. <o></o>
There's absolutely no way, a two term Republican Administration literally staffed by former oil industry execs, one that has managed to gut the EPA, one that has outright denied the role of science on practically every environmental issue to a point where the US President and his Admin are left contradicting the entire world body in regards to the impact and rise of global warming as direct result of human actions... would allow environmentalists to get in the way of oil refinery construction. <o></o>
Refineries are not being built, nor upgraded, because supplies of oil ARE DECREASING ON A GLOBAL SCALE THUS, IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH ECONOMIC SENSE TO BUILD NEW REFINERIES, WHEN YEAR AFTER YEAR, THERE IS LESS AND LESS TO REFINE.<o></o>
The oil majors know this.
They know that at current rates of depletion, THE WORLD WILL BE OUT OF OIL in less than 30 years.<o></o>
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Gimme a break.
WITHOUT THE ENVIRONMENT... THERE IS NO ECONOMY PERIOD!
Lets just call that LIFE 101!!!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" /><o></o>Want the hard facts about ANWR? <o
></o>Lets see... 10 billion barrels of oil that will take 10 years to come online with peak production set at around oh... 2030 or so.
ANWR is the GRAND equivalent of 1.. (COUNT IT)... 1 year of supply for the continental <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
ffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">United States</st1lace></st1:country-region>.ANWR is too little, too late. A completely futile effort that glosses over the true nature of the oil crisis at hand and panders solely to oil interests and members of the Bush Elite.<o
></o>"It's the wacko environmentalists"... no wait, "It's the psycho environmentalists"... they won't let us build refineries.<o
></o>More garbage. <o
></o>There's absolutely no way, a two term Republican Administration literally staffed by former oil industry execs, one that has managed to gut the EPA, one that has outright denied the role of science on practically every environmental issue to a point where the US President and his Admin are left contradicting the entire world body in regards to the impact and rise of global warming as direct result of human actions... would allow environmentalists to get in the way of oil refinery construction. <o
></o>Refineries are not being built, nor upgraded, because supplies of oil ARE DECREASING ON A GLOBAL SCALE THUS, IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH ECONOMIC SENSE TO BUILD NEW REFINERIES, WHEN YEAR AFTER YEAR, THERE IS LESS AND LESS TO REFINE.<o
></o>The oil majors know this.
They know that at current rates of depletion, THE WORLD WILL BE OUT OF OIL in less than 30 years.<o
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></o>
Stryker, you have made several great points and I especially am curious about your reason why refineries have not been built.
Seems that the only minor 'disagreement' we have is that I dont believe the world is soon running out of oil, but that we have ran out of 'cheap' oil.
:baba:
Seems that the only minor 'disagreement' we have is that I dont believe the world is soon running out of oil, but that we have ran out of 'cheap' oil.
:baba:
Stryker said:"It's the wacko environmentalists"... no wait, "It's the psycho environmentalists"... they won't let us drill in ANWR.
Gimme a break.
WITHOUT THE ENVIRONMENT... THERE IS NO ECONOMY PERIOD!
Lets just call that LIFE 101!!!<o
Want the hard facts about ANWR? <o
Lets see... 10 billion barrels of oil that will take 10 years to come online with peak production set at around oh... 2030 or so.
ANWR is the GRAND equivalent of 1.. (COUNT IT)... 1 year of supply for the continental <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1
ANWR is too little, too late. A completely futile effort that glosses over the true nature of the oil crisis at hand and panders solely to oil interests and members of the Bush Elite.<o
"It's the wacko environmentalists"... no wait, "It's the psycho environmentalists"... they won't let us build refineries.<o
More garbage. <o
There's absolutely no way, a two term Republican Administration literally staffed by former oil industry execs, one that has managed to gut the EPA, one that has outright denied the role of science on practically every environmental issue to a point where the US President and his Admin are left contradicting the entire world body in regards to the impact and rise of global warming as direct result of human actions... would allow environmentalists to get in the way of oil refinery construction. <o
Refineries are not being built, nor upgraded, because supplies of oil ARE DECREASING ON A GLOBAL SCALE THUS, IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH ECONOMIC SENSE TO BUILD NEW REFINERIES, WHEN YEAR AFTER YEAR, THERE IS LESS AND LESS TO REFINE.<o
The oil majors know this.
They know that at current rates of depletion, THE WORLD WILL BE OUT OF OIL in less than 30 years.<o
<o
great post and all that is 100% true! My dad worked for the BP Oil Refinery here in Toledo and he would always try to tech me little things here and there, and one that I remember is "It takes years to use the oil that is dug up from the Earth"....
No point into drilling ANWR....and even if we did, its not like the prices are gonna go down....this shit is all controlled by the buyer....wether a Republican or Democract is in office, shit wouldnt change....all working hand in hand to screw us over and for them to bank
DAWOOF - Thx.
Oil is a finite, non-renewable resource thus, at some point in the future the world will run out of it. It may take 100 years it may take 1000 it doesn't matter, at some point we hit 'E'.
At a commercial and economic level though, the world will run out of oil much, MUCH earlier - Chevron gives us 30 years, I give us 15 - this despite the fact that technically, oil wells never dry up. In fact, some of the America's first wells are still producing to this day.
So why the dire prediction?
There are 3 fundamental points that ALL OF US must come to grips with and I mean right now.
1) the light, sweet, easy to find, easy to refine, (therein cheapest) absolute best quality oil used in the most applications, is used up first.
2) the EROEI or ratio of Energy Returned Over Energy Invested MUST remain a positive number in ANY endeavor that seeks to extrapolate net energy as the end product.
3) production and consumption of any finite resource will at some stage 'peak' as a direct result of supply and demand in a market economy which in turn, leads to a shortage.
Think about it.
Oil is a finite, non-renewable resource thus, at some point in the future the world will run out of it. It may take 100 years it may take 1000 it doesn't matter, at some point we hit 'E'.
At a commercial and economic level though, the world will run out of oil much, MUCH earlier - Chevron gives us 30 years, I give us 15 - this despite the fact that technically, oil wells never dry up. In fact, some of the America's first wells are still producing to this day.
So why the dire prediction?
There are 3 fundamental points that ALL OF US must come to grips with and I mean right now.
1) the light, sweet, easy to find, easy to refine, (therein cheapest) absolute best quality oil used in the most applications, is used up first.
2) the EROEI or ratio of Energy Returned Over Energy Invested MUST remain a positive number in ANY endeavor that seeks to extrapolate net energy as the end product.
3) production and consumption of any finite resource will at some stage 'peak' as a direct result of supply and demand in a market economy which in turn, leads to a shortage.
Think about it.
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