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Yes Motley Crue is another excellent example. They sold out on their 3rd album. To VH's credit they held out until album #6. However 1984 is still pretty damn good.
And actually Def Leppard's first three albums were pretty hard. Then on their 4th release the "Pour Some Sugar on Me" era began.
Yes Motley Crue is another excellent example. They sold out on their 3rd album. To VH's credit they held out until album #6. However 1984 is still pretty damn good.
And actually Def Leppard's first three albums were pretty hard. Then on their 4th release the "Pour Some Sugar on Me" era began.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-grunge
Post-grunge is a subgenre of alternative rock that emerged in the mid-1990s as a derivative of grunge, using the sounds and aesthetic of grunge, but with a more commercially acceptable tone. This made post-grunge bands like Foo Fighters, Nickelback, Creed and Matchbox Twenty among the most commercially successful rock acts of the late 1990s and early 2000s.
Post-grunge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Post-grunge Stylistic origins Alternative rock,[1] grunge Cultural origins Mid-1990s United States, United Kingdom, Canada and Australia Typical instruments Electric guitar • acoustic guitar • bass guitar • drums • vocal Mainstream popularity Mid-1990s to early-2010s Regional scenes British Columbia, California, Pacific Northwest, Southern Ontario, Upper Midwest Other topics Post-grunge bands Post-grunge is a subgenre of alternative rock that emerged in the mid-1990s as a derivative of grunge, using the sounds and aesthetic of grunge, but with a more commercially acceptable tone. This made post-grunge bands like Foo Fighters, Nickelback, Creed and Matchbox Twenty among the most commercially successful rock acts of the late 1990s and early 2000s.
[edit] History
The death of Kurt Cobain of Nirvana in early 1994, as well as touring problems for Pearl Jam and the disbandment of Soundgarden, marked a decline for grunge that year.[1] At the same time major record labels began signing and promoting bands that were emulating the genre.[2] The term post-grunge was coined to describe these bands, who emulated the attitudes and music of grunge, particularly thick, distorted guitars, but with a more radio-friendly commercially-oriented sound.[1] Often they worked through the major labels and came to incorporate diverse influences from jangle pop, pop punk, ska revival, alternative metal, or hard rock.[1] The term post-grunge was meant to be pejorative, suggesting that they were simply musically derivative, or a cynical response to an "authentic" rock movement.[3]
In 1995, former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl's new band, the Foo Fighters, helped popularize the genre and define its parameters, becoming one of the most commercially successful rock bands in the US, aided by considerable airplay on MTV.[4] Some post-grunge bands, like Candlebox, were from Seattle, but the sub-genre was marked by a broadening of the geographical base of grunge, with bands like Atlanta, Georgia's Collective Soul, Australia's Silverchair and England's Bush, who all cemented post-grunge as one of the most commercially viable sub-genres by the late 1990s.[1][5] Although male bands predominated, female solo artist Alanis Morissette's 1995 album Jagged Little Pill, labelled as post-grunge, also became a multi-platinum hit.[6] With the first wave of post-grunge bands losing popularity, bands such as Nickelback, Creed and Puddle of Mudd took post-grunge into the 21st century with considerable commercial success, abandoning most of the angst and anger of the original movement for more conventional anthems, narratives and romantic songs. At the start of the 2010s the genre is still active, including new acts Shinedown and Seether. It also gained exposure through American Idol David Cook whose music has been compared to the style.[3][7] While it may be that certain current post-grunge outfits don't have that angst and anger in their music like the bands of post-grunge's first wave and the old grunge guard have, outfits like Breaking Benjamin have retained some of that angst and anger fire in their music.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Post-grunge Stylistic origins Alternative rock,[1] grunge Cultural origins Mid-1990s United States, United Kingdom, Canada and Australia Typical instruments Electric guitar • acoustic guitar • bass guitar • drums • vocal Mainstream popularity Mid-1990s to early-2010s Regional scenes British Columbia, California, Pacific Northwest, Southern Ontario, Upper Midwest Other topics Post-grunge bands Post-grunge is a subgenre of alternative rock that emerged in the mid-1990s as a derivative of grunge, using the sounds and aesthetic of grunge, but with a more commercially acceptable tone. This made post-grunge bands like Foo Fighters, Nickelback, Creed and Matchbox Twenty among the most commercially successful rock acts of the late 1990s and early 2000s.
[edit] History
The death of Kurt Cobain of Nirvana in early 1994, as well as touring problems for Pearl Jam and the disbandment of Soundgarden, marked a decline for grunge that year.[1] At the same time major record labels began signing and promoting bands that were emulating the genre.[2] The term post-grunge was coined to describe these bands, who emulated the attitudes and music of grunge, particularly thick, distorted guitars, but with a more radio-friendly commercially-oriented sound.[1] Often they worked through the major labels and came to incorporate diverse influences from jangle pop, pop punk, ska revival, alternative metal, or hard rock.[1] The term post-grunge was meant to be pejorative, suggesting that they were simply musically derivative, or a cynical response to an "authentic" rock movement.[3]
In 1995, former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl's new band, the Foo Fighters, helped popularize the genre and define its parameters, becoming one of the most commercially successful rock bands in the US, aided by considerable airplay on MTV.[4] Some post-grunge bands, like Candlebox, were from Seattle, but the sub-genre was marked by a broadening of the geographical base of grunge, with bands like Atlanta, Georgia's Collective Soul, Australia's Silverchair and England's Bush, who all cemented post-grunge as one of the most commercially viable sub-genres by the late 1990s.[1][5] Although male bands predominated, female solo artist Alanis Morissette's 1995 album Jagged Little Pill, labelled as post-grunge, also became a multi-platinum hit.[6] With the first wave of post-grunge bands losing popularity, bands such as Nickelback, Creed and Puddle of Mudd took post-grunge into the 21st century with considerable commercial success, abandoning most of the angst and anger of the original movement for more conventional anthems, narratives and romantic songs. At the start of the 2010s the genre is still active, including new acts Shinedown and Seether. It also gained exposure through American Idol David Cook whose music has been compared to the style.[3][7] While it may be that certain current post-grunge outfits don't have that angst and anger in their music like the bands of post-grunge's first wave and the old grunge guard have, outfits like Breaking Benjamin have retained some of that angst and anger fire in their music.
Many bands produce their best material early before the record companies start getting greedy for the next hit. The quality takes a nose dive. The record companies want releases every so many years.
The record companies have ruined rock music. Now many bands are pre-fabricated by the record companies. There is no way in hell that some of these newer bands worked it thru the ranks and clubs to get where they are.
The Underground music scene is where the talent is at now.
Check out bands like "Lords of Altamont" "The Forty Fives" "Electric Sister" "The Bourbon Saints"
If I see or hear another pre-fabricated band like "All American Rejects" or "Fallout Boy" I am going to puke.
The record companies have ruined rock music. Now many bands are pre-fabricated by the record companies. There is no way in hell that some of these newer bands worked it thru the ranks and clubs to get where they are.
The Underground music scene is where the talent is at now.
Check out bands like "Lords of Altamont" "The Forty Fives" "Electric Sister" "The Bourbon Saints"
If I see or hear another pre-fabricated band like "All American Rejects" or "Fallout Boy" I am going to puke.
I'm very familiar with the term post-grunge, that style is pretty much rejected by hard core fans of Nirvana and Pearl Jam and others, because unlike the grunge pioneers that avoided the mainstream, bands like 3 Doors Down, Match Box 20, Nickleback, catered to the mainstream with a water downed facsimile .
Nickleback is artistically challenged.
I like some of the early 3 Doors Down music, I enjoy raising the volume listening to Kryptonite, but it's rock, you want to argue rock with some grunge overtones, fine, but to say 3 Doors Down is grunge (or even so called post grunge) is like saying Blondie is a rapper for her rap riffs in Rapture, or the Talking Heads is a punk rock band, because of a few new wave songs that featured punk overtones.
(I use the word overtone means partials, or parts of)
I am a gigantic fan of Rob Thomas, (I catch some crap for that) but Rob Thomas is uber-talented. Loved his work with the Latin icon Carlos Santana, Thomas is as good a vocalist as it gets.
He's the front man for Matchbox 20, just because they toured with the great Alanis (who's been lumped in the grunge and post grunge group too) and just because they had a hit CD titled "Exile on Mainstream" that was Thomas paying homage to Mick and the Stones, not some sort of grunge reference.
This is not gunge or post grunge, it's rock.
Nickleback is artistically challenged.
I like some of the early 3 Doors Down music, I enjoy raising the volume listening to Kryptonite, but it's rock, you want to argue rock with some grunge overtones, fine, but to say 3 Doors Down is grunge (or even so called post grunge) is like saying Blondie is a rapper for her rap riffs in Rapture, or the Talking Heads is a punk rock band, because of a few new wave songs that featured punk overtones.
(I use the word overtone means partials, or parts of)
I am a gigantic fan of Rob Thomas, (I catch some crap for that) but Rob Thomas is uber-talented. Loved his work with the Latin icon Carlos Santana, Thomas is as good a vocalist as it gets.
He's the front man for Matchbox 20, just because they toured with the great Alanis (who's been lumped in the grunge and post grunge group too) and just because they had a hit CD titled "Exile on Mainstream" that was Thomas paying homage to Mick and the Stones, not some sort of grunge reference.
This is not gunge or post grunge, it's rock.
My thoughts exactly. Original Grunge Rock deserves its one little place on the music spectrum.
When Creed came out I wanted to stick an ice pick through my ear drums. Then Creed became so popular the studios actually created Creed knock off bands like Puddle of Mudd and Nickelback. I will admit a couple of Puddle Of Mudd and Nickelback songs actually grew on me but if Creed ever came on the radio or got DJ play I would have to leave the room.
One band that grew on me later in life was Green Day. When they first came out I hated the fact that they were considered a Punk band. Plus Billy Joe had a face that you just wanted to punch. But Green Day paid their dues over time in my book and I actually started to appreciate their sound. I still wont call it Punk though.
