The Religious Right & Their Thought Process

"Yes there will be a war on terrorist in all those countries listed that are state sponsers of terrorism purpetrated against US intrest."

Only until 2004, then hopefully peace & diplomacy will prevail & the world can return to normalacy

 

[PatPatriot]

Hey, Lander did you take a steam bath before you went to the gay bar?...lol

 

[radiofreecostarica]

And yes in fact we will be going after all those countries.

wow, were going after the US too? that should be interesting.

 

Patriot,
Did you just say that you drove to the gay bar? Apparently you mistook Outandup's car for mine .... don't worry you and your butt troopers are safe with the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

 

[PatPatriot]

No, no, Lander it was your car, because I know your plate # 0I81P...and your bumper sticker " I brake for fanny pirates".

 

[radiofreecostarica]

it was out.
his bumper sticker, "outandupyoass" was pretty obvious with its pink and lavendar lettering.

 

Patriot,
I'm flatter that you were trying to stalk me, but I have to break it to you man ... I don't bat lefty. Sorry, but I just didn't want you to get hurt ... you're a nice, psychotic young raving lunitic - I'm sure plenty of butt pirates like Outandup with an equal passion for oppression & world domination that you could make very special little boys out ofto make you.

GL in your quest for butt love.

 

[KMAN]

Lander - RFC said this war was about oil. Up about 7-8 posts.

KMAN

 

[radiofreecostarica]

I quote the radio:
This is for oil and regime change as well as for maping out a new Middle East, make no mistake about it.

JUST about oil, huh?

 

APPEASE!

"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002

 

"Lander - RFC said this war was about oil. Up about 7-8 posts."

So perhaps you should direct your questions regarding oil towards RFC instead of Grant and I. It's a tough concept to grasp, but some of us formulate our thoughts

 

[radiofreecostarica]

THIRD TIME:

see up two posts...
no one here has said that this war is "just about oil".

 

[KMAN]

Since this is how Liberal's discuss things (by taking other people's quotes and ripping them, instead of coming up with anything new), I will respond to Lander's "factual quotes"


Fact: we were attacked violently on 9/11.
So we are not attacking first.
More Factual:We were not attacked by Iraq on 9/11 or any other date in history.
Yet more factual: Unless you know more than Bush, Saddam has terrorist connections and may sell these Weapons to terrorists. Ousting him will prevent that.

Irag does harbor terroist including alqueda.
More factual : So does Iran, Syria, Ireland, Philipines, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, USA, Columbia, Indonesia, Palestine, Isreal, etc ...
Rhetorical Question: What's the point here? We are going after all terrorism. Why is that so hard to understand? They are trying to crack down on terrorism in the US also but Liberals like yourself bitch and moan when the Government wants to track emails, claiming it invades your privacy, yet you never told me how that directly effects you.

Lander - I can no longer waste my time typing these responses when it is clear you are just like France (not willing to listen to reason). No need to respond, we will jusy agree to disagree.

Thanks,
KMAN

 

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Lander - I can no longer waste my time typing these responses when it is clear you are just like France (not willing to listen to reason). No need to respond, we will jusy agree to disagree. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, just like France I am against the unnecessary slaughter of the Iraqi children. Unlike France I am willing to listen to reason, but sadly you seem incapable of providing such reason.

 

[radiofreecostarica]

kman,
that was MY quote.
lmao...

 

[radiofreecostarica]

Yet more factual: Unless you know more than Bush, Saddam has terrorist connections and may sell these Weapons to terrorists. Ousting him will prevent that.

by the way, either you're wading in a very shallow gene pool or the coloring books you bought don't teach critical thinking.

Invasion would be definite cause for Saddam to consider selling these weapons (if he has said "superabundance" of these WMD) to terrorists.

 

[silver7]

I have. There is no upside trying to discuss the situation w/the likes of FF, O&U, Patriot?, et al. They will continue to ignore facts and always resort to "we have to get Saddam because of 9/11, and before he gets us". Unlike any of them I have been in "harms way" and it was NOT something I want any of my kids to experience. Having said that I do believe there is a time for direct action. Nam wasn`t it and neither is Iraq. Pearl WAS!! There are quaking Liberals and fanatic Conservatives, I wish some of the more moderate of each side could get thru to DUBYA.

 

[Skyweasel]

Silver7, agreed. None of these internet warriors or the loony t.v./radio talking heads they get their info from are going to be spilling any blood. But we will all be dealing the consquences of this fool's foray for years to come. History shows that wars started for vanity and/or at the behest of delusional reasoning lead to disaster down the road. The only acceptable reason here is to secure oil resources, and that is a questionable proposition at best. check this interview out
http://ram.globalpublicmedia.com/RAM/2002/12/ASPO.ColinCampbell.2-4.2002-12-18.ram

 

[Jazz]

Weasel: I completely disagree. In fact, I'll wager right now that a lot of people are against action ONLY because they cannot stand the fact that Bush won the election, and in spite because of that they refuse to let even one truth escape into the equation.

How many freaking times does it have to be stated that the U.S. could take all the oil it freaking needed if it wanted to way before now? Oil IS a big reason for stopping Saddam, but it's because he threatens the stability of that region that holds the majority of the world's oil reserves, and he's actually attacked countries there. Okay? If the U.S. does go in and uses the oil for anything other than to help rebuild Iraq and help the poor suffering bastards, the vast majority of which live like hell, because of the brutal rule of a freaking tyrant who WANTS and HAS used bad weapons like mustard gas, THEN talk.

I literally don't believe people. How do you envision us stealing the oil without a huge outcry from the world? What, we just pump it into our tankers, cruise home and enjoy the spoils of war???

Geez

 

Jazz,
The supports of war have constantly labels oppositions are "bitter over the election" or "saying the war is over oil". I see these arguements <1% of the time. I think the real problem is the manner in which Bush conducts himself that concers us. He has effectively destroyed any chance of a diplomatic resolution - perhaps war was inevitable, but we'll never know with this approach. He is ruining what little positive foreign policies we had. He is spending billions upon billions upon billion on war that he has yet to offer undisputable evidence of a direct correlation between 9/11 & Iraq. He is transforming the manner of US military actions with these "pre-emptive" and "strike first" war theories.

For the millionth time I will state - I hate the reign of Saddam, he is a horrible man, & he should be ousted .... but anyone that cannot see the hypocracy in Bush cutting off medical aid, yet insisting that he is helping the Iraqi people. Let's be perfectly honest here, Bush doesn't give a DAMN about the Iraqi people ... I'm not saying it's his duty to & I'm not implying it's the duty of America to offer medical aid, but I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN ADMINISTRATION THAT DEVICES IT'S CITIZENS. I had a problem with Clinton lying under oath, I had a problem with the Democrats in the NJ Senate Race, but I have an infinately larger problem with a president that engulfs himself in hypocrytical statements & pretends we're all too naive to notice. I don't like politics period, so save the "you're just mad because you lost" crapola for someone that was actually mad. Yes, I wanted Al Gore to win the election. No, I don't think Al Gore would have handled 9/11 as well as Bush. But, more importantly - I don't care what Gore could/would/should have done ... IT DOESN'T MATTER.

What does matter is truth. I feel we are being decieved into justify a war that may or may not be just. This is my problem, war is A LAST RESORT ... after all other avenues have been exhausted. Set a date now, 1441 & the past 10 years don't help us now. Set a date, work towards a peaceful resolution NOW ... no ifs, no ands, no buts .... if no continuous progress is made over months then we have ourselves an avoidable situation. Obviously, Iraq will not disarm with us bombing them as we speak ... I'm tired of this BS flowing out of Washington - time for truth.