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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/trump-coronavirus-data-modeling-179226

After the Pentagon said the military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and on the USNS Comfort in New York are sitting mostly empty, Ari Fleischer, the Fox News contributor and a former George W. Bush White House spokesman, said Thursday on Twitter, “How can this be? For weeks, Gov Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio said NYC hospitals were overwhelmed and the staff could barely keep up. CNN shows a hospital in Queens that was a combat zone. NYC got the Federal help it needed. Why aren’t they using it!?”

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Don’t they convert a convention center in Seattle to hospital beds? And not in patient has been brought there either?
 

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This, this all day, everything else is spin

If we could add a line for how our criminal corrupt colluding always lying democratic media is covering this, the line would be north of IHME's worst predictions

CBS actually used chaotic video of Italian hospitals in misleading reports about American hospitals
 

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Remember "our healthcare system is going to collapse "
 
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This, this all day, everything else is spin

If we could add a line for how our criminal corrupt colluding always lying democratic media is covering this, the line would be north of IHME's worst predictions

CBS actually used chaotic video of Italian hospitals in misleading reports about American hospitals

I see it as preventative measures and more social distancing. The MAJOR scare a few weeks ago was that there werent enough beds in the hospitals. I live in an area where people are getting infected, so my family and I are taking this seriously. Stinks that I know of 4 people who have tested positive and a CLOSE call with a sick kid who (luckily) tested negative (long story which i choose not to get into)
 

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If you die of anything and have the virus, you are counted in the death total. In March, minus those deaths tied to the virus, all other US deaths were down by 15% versus the past three years. What we are experiencing is the equivalent of a bad flu season (48,000 died in 1018). Surgery centers and doctors offices are closed and the economy is shut down and many, many hospitals sit empty and even some have laid off staff.
 
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If you die of anything and have the virus, you are counted in the death total. In March, minus those deaths tied to the virus, all other US deaths were down by 15% versus the past three years. What we are experiencing is the equivalent of a bad flu season (48,000 died in 1018). Surgery centers and doctors offices are closed and the economy is shut down and many, many hospitals sit empty and even some have laid off staff.

I think it should count. If a normal person contracts the virus, then they "should" be ok (we still dont know of long term effects). If a person who is a senior citizen, heart problems, obese, high blood pressure, asmatic, etc contracts the virus, then there is an INCREASED chance that they can die or be in the hospital for an extended stay.

I think those numbers should count towards death and hospitalization.

What is scaring me now is that China is starting to get a 2nd wave. However, at this point, we cannot trust them 100%
 

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I think it should count. If a normal person contracts the virus, then they "should" be ok (we still dont know of long term effects). If a person who is a senior citizen, heart problems, obese, high blood pressure, asmatic, etc contracts the virus, then there is an INCREASED chance that they can die or be in the hospital for an extended stay.

I think those numbers should count towards death and hospitalization.

What is scaring me now is that China is starting to get a 2nd wave. However, at this point, we cannot trust them 100%

Like the baby in Connecticut that died in an in-home accident that was classified as CORONA related?
 
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Like the baby in Connecticut that died in an in-home accident that was classified as CORONA related?

I honestly dont know the story so i cannot respond (nor am i going to take the time to look up that link). If that was truly the case, than thats 100% wrong.
 
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I honestly dont know the story so i cannot respond (nor am i going to take the time to look up that link). If that was truly the case, than thats 100% wrong.

[FONT=&quot]State Epidemiologist Matthew Cartter explained on Friday why health officials links deaths to COVID-19 before an autopsy is done.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Department of Public Health tally of COVID-19 deaths includes all people who test positive for the virus just before or after their death. That’s different from saying COVID-19 caused someone’s death.



If somebody has AIDS and doesn’t know it and then falls down and cracks his head open and dies. Who is to say his illness didn’t contribute?

And then at that point you are talking about how much of a factor did this play or did this not play. Semantics.


He had corona. He died. They are going to mark it as corona until they figure it out. Why? Because that’s common sense. They do that for everything. These right wing political whackos don’t know shit dude.


If some old person is about to die from annual flu...has had it non stop and it’s not looking good....and then she catches AIDS(hypothetically) and she dies....guess what they will say killed her? AIDS.


I bring up AIDS because a friend of mine said how come we didn’t quarantine for that? Regan just told all the gays to quarantine even though people could still contract it other ways besides gay people. It had a vicious death rate. We didn’t quarantine as a nation.


My response was.... because AIDS was not as wide spread as this. And neither was swine flu, neither is the annual flu. There isn’t anything we have seen as wide spread as corona since the black plaque. That’s just factual. I wish it weren’t true. But this is why we had to shutdown everything. Not as deadly but we would’ve surpassed a million deaths EASILY in the United States. Fucking easily. That’s a fact based on what we have done to contain this and based on situations like the Spanish flu where it went on for two years and we hit those numbers. If we did nothing lmao I can’t even imagine where we would be at right now as far the numbers. Astronomical. [/FONT]
 
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State Epidemiologist Matthew Cartter explained on Friday why health officials links deaths to COVID-19 before an autopsy is done.
The Department of Public Health tally of COVID-19 deaths includes all people who test positive for the virus just before or after their death. That’s different from saying COVID-19 caused someone’s death.



If somebody has AIDS and doesn’t know it and then falls down and cracks his head open and dies. Who is to say his illness didn’t contribute?

And then at that point you are talking about how much of a factor did this play or did this not play. Semantics.


He had corona. He died. They are going to mark it as corona until they figure it out. Why? Because that’s common sense. They do that for everything. These right wing political whackos don’t know shit dude.


If some old person is about to die from annual flu...has had it non stop and it’s not looking good....and then she catches AIDS(hypothetically) and she dies....guess what they will say killed her? AIDS.


I bring up AIDS because a friend of mine said how come we didn’t quarantine for that? Regan just told all the gays to quarantine even though people could still contract it other ways besides gay people. It had a vicious death rate. We didn’t quarantine as a nation.


My response was.... because AIDS was not as wide spread as this. And neither was swine flu, neither is the annual flu. There isn’t anything we have seen as wide spread as corona since the black plaque. That’s just factual. I wish it weren’t true. But this is why we had to shutdown everything. Not as deadly but we would’ve surpassed a million deaths EASILY in the United States. Fucking easily. That’s a fact based on what we have done to contain this and based on situations like the Spanish flu where it went on for two years and we hit those numbers. If we did nothing lmao I can’t even imagine where we would be at right now as far the numbers. Astronomical.

There seems to be a lot of common sense & sound reasoning in those comments, Mob. Thanks.
 

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The good thing is that the number of pneumonia deaths in the US is at a record low.



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You may not believe that the entire country doesn’t need to be locked down for this very reason either.
This hell week is turning into fail week for loudmouths
i think the degree to which other cities are struggling massively should serve as the reason why other cities who are not struggling should continue to remain in quarantine.
if you're in a city that is not struggling, then the goal of quarantine is achieved. trust me, you don't want to be on the other side of the fence.
 

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The good thing is that the number of pneumonia deaths in the US is at a record low.



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almost every respiratory death is being tagged as covid, covid related, or covid suspected. pneumonia may be listed as a second or third cause of death, but that data is almost never captured by the people doing these stats.
 

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I see it as preventative measures and more social distancing. The MAJOR scare a few weeks ago was that there werent enough beds in the hospitals. I live in an area where people are getting infected, so my family and I are taking this seriously. Stinks that I know of 4 people who have tested positive and a CLOSE call with a sick kid who (luckily) tested negative (long story which i choose not to get into)

It's a serious disease, stay well

We need a few smart liberals :), not many around don'tchaknow
 

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