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If a book needed kc last week -3-125 and pats were +105+3 , why was kc line heavily juiced?
 

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Vegas sets the line, whispers its needs to the NFL and the NFL works its magic. You saw that "magic" take place when refs stood on helmet to helmet PI there like they never officiated a game before and said "Incomplete Pass!" Next drive please.

Make a mental note as the play progressed. Lewis was hammered, got right back up, put his hands up to the ref and ran back toward the huddle or sideline. Didn't make a huge scene over it like "motherfucker! You gotta be crazy not to throw a flag!" Nooo took it on the chin and shrugged it off. Players aren't in on it? Gimmee a break. Theyre ALL actors at the podium. Some might speak and elevate it to sound pissed off? Not one of them lost a dime that game.They ALL got paid regardless of the outcome

If you honestly believe this you need to have your head examined.

Also, Vegas doesn’t set the lines. Everything originates offshore.
 

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If you honestly believe this you need to have your head examined.

Also, Vegas doesn’t set the lines. Everything originates offshore.

I believe the NFL is no different than WWE. shitty actors who fuck up during the script at times. I believe the NFL is 100% involved with gambling. 100% involved with Vegas who takes in millions of $$$ on playoff games. My head examined? Perhaps you should get yours examined. It's a fact that players coaches and refs were taking $15-25k to fix the game. I'm willing to be these were in cash. Dont want paper trails on things like this.
 

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Vegas does indeed set the line but it originates with a few persons, that designate the spread - many factors come into play - years ago the king of setting lines was Bob Martin condsidered the best ever - his word was Golden - I suggest you google him - a great story - none better - when he passed - a few people from the ivy schools took over - nowadays I don’t know who but it’s a few persons that make the line - offshore has nothing or little to do with it - it’s a real mathematical n scientific from what I understand - they give a numerical value to each player n take in many factors - then like I said allow certain VIP gamblers ist shot - to see what they will do - pats opened 1 n quickly when to 2 n 2.5 - a rare couple like bovada had 3
 

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Bob Martin made his own line out of Churchill downs an became so good - vegas lured him to the great Stardust Hotel in Vegas n it was there the line was made n set - when he died two or 3 ivy wizards were hired - that’s all I know from there
 

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I believe the NFL is no different than WWE. shitty actors who fuck up during the script at times. I believe the NFL is 100% involved with gambling. 100% involved with Vegas who takes in millions of $$$ on playoff games. My head examined? Perhaps you should get yours examined. It's a fact that players coaches and refs were taking $15-25k to fix the game. I'm willing to be these were in cash. Dont want paper trails on things like this.

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Bob Martin made his own line out of Churchill downs an became so good - vegas lured him to the great Stardust Hotel in Vegas n it was there the line was made n set - when he died two or 3 ivy wizards were hired - that’s all I know from there

Interesting. Thanks I'll have to read about him
 

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your perception L2 is something like what i think is going on. i cant prove it but its more than just a statement.there is no doubt that games are scripted,an thats a mouthful.
 

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What's the record for a team winning the SB by having the best record going in?

Rams are the better team right now based on that record
 

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your perception L2 is something like what i think is going on. i cant prove it but its more than just a statement.there is no doubt that games are scripted,an thats a mouthful.

So if games are scripted..... are the players in on it too? Are the coaches in on it too? Absolutely rediculous in my opinion. What this is..is gamblers that lost money on a certain game looking for an excuse. So...did the league tell the KC player to line up off sides so that after the interception... that was scripted...NE would keep the ball and ultimately win the game and advance to the Super Bowl? Lmao
 

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So if games are scripted..... are the players in on it too? Are the coaches in on it too? Absolutely rediculous in my opinion. What this is..is gamblers that lost money on a certain game looking for an excuse. So...did the league tell the KC player to line up off sides so that after the interception... that was scripted...NE would keep the ball and ultimately win the game and advance to the Super Bowl? Lmao
Wait a minute now! Thats bullshit. Look at my Rams @ Saints thread. I put 10* on Saints ML and 8* on Rams +3.5. I stated it was 1-3pt game and stated that Zeurline was going to be the make or break. I had him breaking and missing the game tying or game winning FG AT 50+ yrds!. So I lost on the call with Zeurline missing the FG, however I was almost dead on with the game. I was winning 1 of my bets either way. That was guaranteed! It was NOT with 100% certainty a hedge of any kind way, shape or form!. Had Saints gotten the call? No doubt they score a TD which is was Sean P states they were going for. Therefore I'd have lost my Rams bet. HOWEVER! Rams were covering the spread and I had 99% certainty with this. I mentioned 2 games that would resurface because of this:

1) Saints @ Sea 2013 where they lost SU and AST during the reg season and in the playoffs I said Saints were covering it. Seer told me I was nuts. Spread was 8pts and Saints covered.

2) 2009 NFCCG. Hartley kicks game winning FG

Saints beat Rams at home covered spread, Rams were covering @ Saints come playoffs.

Hartely kicks game win FG

Zeurline kicks game winning FG, however he should have missed? Though the non call along with other helmet to helmets missed by refs stated no fucking way in hell Saints were winning the game. 3 refs saw the play, one went to throw the flag then immediately stated Incomplete pass. They wear headsets, they have access to not only speak amongst themselves, but also booth review. You mean to tell me that 6-8 refs missed that call? Bullshit! 100% intentional. I'd be 100% fine with losing a bet even on Saints which is my choice of NFL team being Im in Louisiana. I've bet against them multiple times because I know the team and situations with them...But that is 100% without a doubt of uncertainty intentional to progress the Rams to the SB. Fixed! And i'm been saying the leagues is WWE. I laugh at some of the bullshti that takes place. Even when I win a bet? Ive stated it was rigged in order for me to win...

KC, you're 100% delusional if you you think that flag was thrown because he lined up offsides when if you look within that game, he lined up several times like that and was never called. But come down to the wire? We must advance Brady because of amount of money poured on KC or because its Brady or both.

Had the Saints won and Rams Covered and KC won by4+? Vegas would have lost at minimum $10million....Im being very conservative here. Playoff games are 100% decided by either a script, money or both. NFL throws public a bone though! Because they know they're getting it back.

I've been tossing the idea of Rams winning the SB. However with the magnitude of this circus act? I'm thinking Patriots beat them by game winning FG alas 2001. Whats ironic about this game? Rams Pats played this SB in the Superdome and the controversy is about new orleans between 2 teams. Most ppl are hoping for Patriots to stomp a mud hole in Rams because of this. However is it really the Rams fault? Or NFLs? Both? And if Rams won, would they have won it all because the NFl allowed them too? Are the Rams the next patriots who get more calls their way than any other team in the league?

What if Saints were told congrats for getting into the NFCCG and Rams were as well except the Rams were told that the game would allow the players a little more headway in deciding who would win? Wouldn't that entice a team to think hmmm sounds like we can do anything we want (sounds like the Patriots dont you think?) So many possibilities but we know one thing is certain. Its never a fair game between 2 teams...
 

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Your laugh is extremely weak. Not surprised since your theory on things is also very weak
 

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Your laugh is extremely weak. Not surprised since your theory on things is also very weak

Whichever team loses in the bowl you will find a conspiracy theory. It's a win, win for you lol
 

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Whichever team loses in the bowl you will find a conspiracy theory. It's a win, win for you lol
Not really, I'm actually pulling for the Rams to win it all after the non-call. Haven't made up my mind as to which way I go. And my conspiracy theory is no different than the referees' conspiracy to not call the PI or give Seattle the interception when the Pack caught the Hail Mary. lol

I can actually see XFL taking off in 2020 to give the NFE a run for its money....
 

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