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I’m opening Pats -2 1/2 58. my players love Pats but amazingly most played Kc Yesterday and it could hav went either way

my guess is that I’ll get more Pats an if I do at beginning I’ll go right to 3 -again rams imho should not be there so I think many will be on Pats - we shall see. Bovada has 3 +130 to Pats
 

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I can already say without a doubt, Patriots will be the heavy favorite and every bookie will need Rams.
 

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Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it hit 4 before it goes back down
 
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Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it hit 4 before it goes back down

Here is all you need to know. IF the line NEVER hits NE -3, then THAT is all you need to know.

Think this through. IF the line NEVER HITS 3 or more importantly, MOVES THROUGH the 3, then the line is telling you everything you need to know.
 

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Here is all you need to know. IF the line NEVER hits NE -3, then THAT is all you need to know.

Think this through. IF the line NEVER HITS 3 or more importantly, MOVES THROUGH the 3, then the line is telling you everything you need to know.
Expound on this statement please..what do we need to know?? What is this everything you are talking about? Thanks in advance, I’m not a mind reader,...need more information
 
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Here is all you need to know. IF the line NEVER hits NE -3, then THAT is all you need to know.

Think this through. IF the line NEVER HITS 3 or more importantly, MOVES THROUGH the 3, then the line is telling you everything you need to know.
yes please
 

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Opens pick them to 2.5. Who played? Sharps or public ? And how does one become a sharp and one become public?
 

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Plain English would help, instead of the guessing games .. Really , What the hell do u mean.. Some of us are a little thick !!!
 
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I believe he is saying that since the public is all over NE and it quickly went through 0 from +1 to -2, if the books are never pressed hard enough to expose themselves to +3 Rams, then the big money at that point is on the Rams and gobbling up all the +2.5's that surface. Public pushes line pressure up while big sharps buy it the other way to balance it out and preventing +3 Rams
 
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Opens pick them to 2.5. Who played? Sharps or public ? And how does one become a sharp and one become public?

public always bets early least that's what my friends at the windows say and the sharper guys wait for the move, maybe to middle maybe to gt more pts I took Pat's pk if they go to 3 it's a great middle spot imo
 

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Sharps almost Always play late, and many just hours before kickoff and right up to it. Sharps today influence the lines for sure. sharps did very good yesterday especially with Rams but got very very lucky. in a sense both rams and pats got lucky late.they got these lines down Pat.but Notice that no one had 3 1/2 (i did later on in day) in fact most all sportsbooks had kc 3 -120 and some -130. i say they KNOW that Pats were gonna win.there was tons of money on kc,cause my big players even the DOC almost always plays Pats,yet switched and Put 10 k on chiefs. classic setup but dont ask me who or how.ive seen this so many times it has to be rigged somehow. in the saints game there was not even close disparity to the Pats game. my source who is a screener an tallys up the money had about 52% more saints but large plays on rams real late,but said it was nothing compared to kc and under, - what gets me is that i would have thought almost all would play over 55 1/2 where it dropped from 59 opening week,it was very cold but warmed up condsiderably ,and yet most still played under? why after a few weeks ago in foxboro it was 43-40. Not only that they scored 54 pts in sec half !! and killed many teasers on what looked like a sure winner.HOW does vegas win these games.someone knows something-no doubt about it.
 

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right now 2 1/2 means nothing ,but vegas throws that out und 3 an that raises my eyebrows,why not 3.because they dont want a push.so i say it stays at 2 1/2 an that will surely invite many to take Pats,sharps will wait till very end to jump on key number 3. we shall see/
 

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Sharps almost Always play late, and many just hours before kickoff and right up to it. Sharps today influence the lines for sure. sharps did very good yesterday especially with Rams but got very very lucky. in a sense both rams and pats got lucky late.they got these lines down Pat.but Notice that no one had 3 1/2 (i did later on in day) in fact most all sportsbooks had kc 3 -120 and some -130. i say they KNOW that Pats were gonna win.there was tons of money on kc,cause my big players even the DOC almost always plays Pats,yet switched and Put 10 k on chiefs. classic setup but dont ask me who or how.ive seen this so many times it has to be rigged somehow. in the saints game there was not even close disparity to the Pats game. my source who is a screener an tallys up the money had about 52% more saints but large plays on rams real late,but said it was nothing compared to kc and under, - what gets me is that i would have thought almost all would play over 55 1/2 where it dropped from 59 opening week,it was very cold but warmed up condsiderably ,and yet most still played under? why after a few weeks ago in foxboro it was 43-40. Not only that they scored 54 pts in sec half !! and killed many teasers on what looked like a sure winner.HOW does vegas win these games.someone knows something-no doubt about it.

Vegas sets the line, whispers its needs to the NFL and the NFL works its magic. You saw that "magic" take place when refs stood on helmet to helmet PI there like they never officiated a game before and said "Incomplete Pass!" Next drive please.

Make a mental note as the play progressed. Lewis was hammered, got right back up, put his hands up to the ref and ran back toward the huddle or sideline. Didn't make a huge scene over it like "motherfucker! You gotta be crazy not to throw a flag!" Nooo took it on the chin and shrugged it off. Players aren't in on it? Gimmee a break. Theyre ALL actors at the podium. Some might speak and elevate it to sound pissed off? Not one of them lost a dime that game.They ALL got paid regardless of the outcome
 
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Vegas sets the line, whispers its needs to the NFL and the NFL works its magic. You saw that "magic" take place when refs stood on helmet to helmet PI there like they never officiated a game before and said "Incomplete Pass!" Next drive please.

Make a mental note as the play progressed. Lewis was hammered, got right back up, put his hands up to the ref and ran back toward the huddle or sideline. Didn't make a huge scene over it like "motherfucker! You gotta be crazy not to throw a flag!" Nooo took it on the chin and shrugged it off. Players aren't in on it? Gimmee a break. Theyre ALL actors at the podium. Some might speak and elevate it to sound pissed off? Not one of them lost a dime that game.They ALL got paid regardless of the outcome

no disrespect but a vast conspiracy involving all sides and highly paid employees sound a tad cuckoo . now if it was tennis and only one player needed to be involved that's a definite thing and it's been uncovered and exposed. but hey I wasnt an x files fan either
 

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no disrespect but a vast conspiracy involving all sides and highly paid employees sound a tad cuckoo . now if it was tennis and only one player needed to be involved that's a definite thing and it's been uncovered and exposed. but hey I wasnt an x files fan either
So let me get this straight? WWE doesnt have a narrative to build on? The NFL is ONE entity. There are NO teams. ONE team. They all play the same game. Contracts are drawn up. Anyone can get a copy of that contract? Im willing to bet those contracts have clauses in them. They can say something about it? However I really think they aren't allowed to state how fixes are done ect. Listen to Drew Brees talk. "It's a business." youre watching one large soap opera. Plain and simple. Money tied to it? You better believe it's picked apart. orchestrated.

Brady under center with 48 seconds left in the 4th. orchestrates drive after drive when beforehand? they were playing man coverage. Now? CBs are playing off 10ft apart. Its a wonder receivers can catch a ball right? Timeouts called when in reality? youre giving the opponent time. Why? Oh coach saw something he didn't like. Or was he told to call something else? Half time: 15 minutes, the coach is grilling their ass and giving em an inspiring talk to fire em up! lol OR theyre orchestrating the greatest comeback of all time? Im betting on the latter....
 
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why are you even betting on games if you think they are rigged?

I strongly disagree that sharps almost always play late. Many I know take a position early in the week with knowledge of a pending line move and take advantage of the value. Why wait until a total drops 3 pts before betting if they know it's about to move?

Then you have the arbitrage sharp players who always play the second or day a line comes out and then seek a middle no-risk opp. So those guys jumped on Pats +1 or PK yest and will seek a 3 pt middle for this game.

Of course you have the sharp players who will bet 120 seconds before kickoff. I'm not saying that doesn't happen. Because it definitely does. But I know many successful pros who get down early in the week and ride the line move value.
 

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Lol really? Let’s see, nba, nfl, hockey, nascar, horse racing, soccer, slots, roulette, blackjack, craps all have advantages given to the house. And the last 4? Everyone knows the house walks away with your money. Yet walk into a casino and what do you see? Contradicting question there.
 

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