But TT, you are challenging Shrink to bet you that JJ was not paid by the RX, and the Shrink was saying that he never paid JJ one penny. That is 2 different things. Shrink rightly remembered that he never paid JJ to post; and he forgot that the Rx had paid JJ for whatever activities, among which you might consider posting. So both of you are right. Do you want to bet whether the Shrink actually paid JJ any money? If so, you lose. And while you challenged the Shrink to bet after JJ admitted getting money, (this is sorta like past-posting which is anathema to everyone involved in sports betting), the Shrink never accepted that bet. So if you won't apologise to the Shrink, which I believe you should, afterall he apologised to you, at least have the decency to knock off this persistent whining about how you deserve to be paid for a bet that was never consummated. It's like me saying "I do" to Xpanda, and therefore expecting my marriage to her to be consummated. You have a bet with Shrink as much as I have a marriage to Xpanda!