Rape Suspect Beaten Unconscious By Victim's Husband

[texansfan]

Ok, now the suspect may have known the victim...Don't believe the newspapers...

http://issaquah.komonews.com/content/accused-rapist-attacked-victims-husband-friend

Two men were arrested early Sunday morning after they attacked another man who was accused of raping the wife of one of the assailants.
Issaquah police were called to the 400 block of NE Birch Street around 2 a.m. on the report of a rape. When they arrived, they found a 31-year-old Kirkland man unconscious and bleeding from cuts on his head. He was quickly taken to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle for treatment of his injuries.
Officers learned that the injured man was the suspect in the reported rape. He had been attacked by the woman’s husband, a 31-year-old Renton man, and his friend, a 30-year-old Issaquah man, who arrived at the home just after the rape had occurred.
The two attackers were arrested, taken to the King County Jail and booked for first degree assault. The condition of the Kirkland man is not known.
Issaquah police told KOMO's Luke Ducey that they are investigating the situation as two separate crimes: the rape and the assault. Police say that the rape suspect may have known the woman and her husband, but they were not friends. No other details were made available pending the ongoing investigation

 

[JohnnyMac]

What are the chances the sex was consensual, the woman was surprised her husband came home, cried "rape," and her lover got his ass kicked by her husband?

 

[quantumleap]

Look at this news story and see how different some details are.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/420504_rapist23.html

Accused rapist beaten in revenge
KOMO-TV STAFF

Two men were arrested early Sunday morning after they attacked another man who was accused of raping the wife of one of the assailants.

Issaquah police were called to the 400 block of NE Birch Street around 2 a.m. on the report of a rape. When they arrived, they found a 31-year-old Kirkland man unconscious and bleeding from cuts on his head. He was quickly taken to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle for treatment of his injuries.

Officers learned that the injured man was the suspect in the reported rape. He had been attacked by the woman's husband, a 31-year-old Renton man, and his friend, a 30-year-old Issaquah man, who were at the home when the reported rape occurred.

The two attackers were arrested, taken to the King County Jail and booked for first degree assault. The condition of the Kirkland man is not known. Issaquah police say that the rape suspect and the victim were acquaintances and thus believe that no break-in took place

As you know, we don't really know what happened. This could be a consensual sexual incident where the husband comes home and finds the guy in bed with his wife. The rape story could be fabricated.

There could be a dozen other possibilities with what actually happened. To be glad that a man was beaten is misplaced. Newspapers don't always print what actually happened.

 

[quantumleap]

What are the chances the sex was consensual, the woman was surprised her husband came home, cried "rape," and her lover got his ass kicked by her husband?

Beat me to it as I was typing my response.

:toast:

 

[texansfan]

JohnnyMac and quantamleap, that's my point exactly. The police had a reason to arrest them. The police don't give a crap about the two of them most likely. They're just going to do their job and let the lawyers and judges figure it out.

Like I stated earlier, the police aren't going to give the media all the details regarding any incident still under investigation. The media is out to sell newspapers and make money so they go with what they think happened without even knowing all the facts.

 

[bigbet1234]

Texas, can we agree most cops have a power trip issue?

I have met one cop EVER that was the average joe, most have this EGO that is sickening

 

[texansfan]

Texas, can we agree most cops have a power trip issue?

I have met one cop EVER that was the average joe, most have this EGO that is sickening

Do all people that own bakeries have little penises? What does one have to do with the other? How many cops have you met? Are all lawyers lying pieces of shit? Are all bartenders drunks?

I served 8 years in the Marine Corps and decided on Law Enforcement afterwards as a career. I never grew up wanting to be a cop or a fireman. This is my job, nothing more. I work in investigations and I try to help people on a daily business.

It seems to me that most people who have a problem with cops are criminals or people that have been in trouble before.

 

[bigtendominator]

Texasfan,

I have to agree with everything you have stated in the thread. Can't have people running around exacting their own justice.

 

[texansfan]

Texasfan,

I have to agree with everything you have stated in the thread. Can't have people running around exacting their own justice.

There are some people who get their ideas of how the law works from watching tv. I hear people saying the laws suck and why is this illegal and why do cops arrest people for this and that. You know what? Cops don't make the law, they only enforce them.

If people don't like the current laws then they should get in touch with those people who make them and speak with them.

Now, to the subject at hand. If you as a husband walk into your home and find a turd raping your wife or daughter you have every right by law to defend them. The officers most likely won't arrest you and they will refer the case to a grand jury if the DA decides to go that route.

What people don't realize is that while on a scene, the officers will contact the DA's office and after advising them of what they've got, the DA makes the call on whether or not to accept a charge.

If an officer calls the DA's office and they refuse charges then that person isn't going to jail most likely.

 

[Stylez]

The cops did their JOB , let the legal system sort it out. If she was raped i hope its thrown out , if she was just a cheating whore and he came home... same outcome probably would have happened. Hard to say what we would all do in that situation. I would hope that i had enough wits to not kill anyone but no promises

 

[HacheMan]

There are some people who get their ideas of how the law works from watching tv. I hear people saying the laws suck and why is this illegal and why do cops arrest people for this and that. You know what? Cops don't make the law, they only enforce them.

LOL I know & work around all of the police officers in my city every day & have for over 10 years, and I know how soooooo many things work, much which ISN'T by the rules.

And please don't give me that it must be just in my town.....

 

[texansfan]

LOL I know & work around all of the police officers in my city every day & have for over 10 years, and I know how soooooo many things work, much which ISN'T by the rules.

And please don't give me that it must be just in my town.....

You're an expert on being a mod, not being a cop. I don't care really who you know or what you think you know, your premise that the cops should have just let them go is flawed.

This is real life, not Law and Order.

 

[bigtendominator]

LOL I know & work around all of the police officers in my city every day & have for over 10 years, and I know how soooooo many things work, much which ISN'T by the rules.

And please don't give me that it must be just in my town.....

I believe Texasfan is a cop or it may be another Texas resident is a cop.

 

[HacheMan]

You're an expert on being a mod, not being a cop. I don't care really who you know or what you think you know, your premise that the cops should have just let them go is flawed.

This is real life, not Law and Order.

I don't think you understand.

I work WITH AND AROUND these men & women (Police Officers) every day for the past 10 years, I'm friends with almost all of them, including the chief of police, and get the scoop on just about everything. You're trying to paint a picture as if everything is done strictly by the rules all of the time by authorities, and I know for fact it isn't, and see it day & and day out, much of which is laughed off.

You may be a good cop, but trying to say ALL officers are is laughable, and as a matter of fact I'd say it would be a reach if we estimated 50% of police officers always go strictly by the rules.

We can agree to disagree, no big deal, and I mean no disrespect to you, but I know the truth because I see if every day...

 

[texansfan]

I don't think you understand.

I work WITH AND AROUND these men & women (Police Officers) every day for the past 10 years, I'm friends with almost all of them, including the chief of police, and get the scoop on just about everything. You're trying to paint a picture as if everything is done strictly by the rules all of the time by authorities, and I know for fact it isn't, and see it day & and day out, much of which is laughed off.

You may be a good cop, but trying to say ALL officers are is laughable, and as a matter of fact I'd say it would be a reach if we estimated 50% of police officers always go strictly by the rules.

We can agree to disagree, no big deal, but I know the truth because I see if every day...

I'm not trying to argue with you hache, just giving my opinion. In fact, look at the post I made that's now in the RR in the LE thread.

I don't believe I've ever stated all cops are good, in fact I've stated differently many times. My point of contention with you was saying that the cops had a choice on whether or not to arrest both guys.

 

[quantumleap]

I'm not trying to argue with you hache, just giving my opinion. In fact, look at the post I made that's now in the RR in the LE thread.

I don't believe I've ever stated all cops are good, in fact I've stated differently many times. My point of contention with you was saying that the cops had a choice on whether or not to arrest both guys.

I don't think it's accurate to say that cops don't have latitude in these cases. I'm not LE so this is based upon my limited experience with those people. But cops have latitude as to whether they can arrest people or not and not all crimes are reported to the DA before arresting someone. Furthermore, if a cop were to call the DA he can lie about what happened.

My point being that it's not 100% of the time that the cop doesn't affect or decide whether a perp is arrested. Can you say any of my points are not valid?

 

[HacheMan]

I'm not trying to argue with you hache, just giving my opinion. In fact, look at the post I made that's now in the RR in the LE thread.

I don't believe I've ever stated all cops are good, in fact I've stated differently many times. My point of contention with you was saying that the cops had a choice on whether or not to arrest both guys.

Yes we did get off subject & I apologize.

Maybe the misunderstanding came when I was talking about cops turning their heads. I didn't necessarily mean in the states, I was referring more to other countries where it happens quite often & in some cases they will even allow the victims to take out their own revenge.

 

[texansfan]

I don't think it's accurate to say that cops don't have latitude in these cases. I'm not LE so this is based upon my limited experience with those people. But cops have latitude as to whether they can arrest people or not and not all crimes are reported to the DA before arresting someone. Furthermore, if a cop were to call the DA he can lie about what happened.

My point being that it's not 100% of the time that the cop doesn't affect or decide whether a perp is arrested. Can you say any of my points are not valid?

I'll speak for Houston for whom I work. Everytime, and I mean everytime a police officer makes an arrest he/she must call the DA's office to speak with an Asst D.A. regarding the facts of the case.

The D.A. will tell the officer what charge they will accept after hearing the facts. If the cop decides to lie about what they have and it goes to court then they'll have to perjure themselves on the stand as well.

I can't speak for anybody but myself, but there's no way I'm risking my life, my career, my wife, my kids, on some turd just to make an arrest. What's the point? I'm not going to jail for some turd on the streets.

In Houston, there's no such thing as just arresting someone on a Class B misdemeanor or higher without speaking with a D.A.

For reference, Class C charges are things like traffic tickets, public intoxication, stuff like that.

 

[texansfan]

Yes we did get off subject & I apologize.

Maybe the misunderstanding came when I was talking about cops turning their heads. I didn't necessarily mean in the states, I was referring more to other countries where it happens quite often & in some cases they will even allow the victims to take out their own revenge.

Agree, and I aoplogize as well. I would say in other countries you can get away with a lot of stuff people wouldn't even try here. It's funny though, as much as people complain about the drug laws here it's much worse in a lot of other countries. The same as stealing. In some countries they'll just cut your hand off.

 

[quantumleap]

I'll speak for Houston for whom I work. Everytime, and I mean everytime a police officer makes an arrest he/she must call the DA's office to speak with an Asst D.A. regarding the facts of the case.

The D.A. will tell the officer what charge they will accept after hearing the facts. If the cop decides to lie about what they have and it goes to court then they'll have to perjure themselves on the stand as well.

I can't speak for anybody but myself, but there's no way I'm risking my life, my career, my wife, my kids, on some turd just to make an arrest. What's the point? I'm not going to jail for some turd on the streets.

In Houston, there's no such thing as just arresting someone on a Class B misdemeanor or higher without speaking with a D.A.

For reference, Class C charges are things like traffic tickets, public intoxication, stuff like that.

Thanks for the reply.

I hate to sound like a TV cop show or movie but aren't there other reasons cops lie or even plant evidence not because of any personal beef with someone but because of pressure from higher-ups? I'm not asking in your particular case. I'm just saying that some cops are willing to lie about a crime.

Most of the discussion has been about cops on the scene of a potential crime. What has not been discussed are cops who investigate crimes some time after the event. These cops sometimes coerce witnesses into saying things that haven't happened for whatever reason to bolster a case that is weak and sometimes is done for political reasons.