I said if any of them are convicted of the felony murder charge u win
I really feel like I am dealing with Mob now - none of them are going to plead guilty to felony murder - that's the highest charge the state has brought against them - why the fuck would they plead guilty to felony murder? that's akin to the judge giving someone a sentence of 20 years and the defendant saying can I please have 30 years - the only time someone pleas to murder or felony murder is for the prosecution to take the death penalty option away - that's not in play here so there will be no plea to felony murder - you plea to a lesser crime and avoid a possible conviction of felony murder or ur roll the dice and hope the jury finds you innocent - that's kind of the way out justice system works
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE
you win if any of them is convicted of felony murder - I will explain convicted to u as part of the baby step process - in this case, it means they go to a trial of 12 of their peers and the verdict reads GUILTY OF FELONY MURDER
I win in no one is convicted of felony murder - I win if the state drops the felony murder charge - I win if they all plea to something other than felony murder - such as manslaughter
Of course you win in this case - but are u fucken brain dead? y would they do that? that's the highest charge brought against them - no one pleads guilty to murder or felony murder unless they are doing so to have the death penalty removed - they would go to trial and at least lose
If any of them plead guilty to felony murder they are spending their life in prison - why would they do this? what's the upside? u go to trial
ok, let me know - the parameters are clear and concise - u have three idiots - if any one of the three idiots accepts a guilty plea of felony murder or if any one of the three is convicted of felony murder at trial u win
if, as evidence comes out, the state drops the felony murder charges and decides to charge them with murder (premeditated murder as u would know it) instead u also lose
if, as evidence comes out, the state drops the felony murder charges and decides to charge them with murder (premeditated murder as u would know it) instead u also lose
It is of course a sucker bet unless Seymour is willing to offer you a minimum of +800
Nationwide, defendants charged (via grand jury) with any level of murder end up in a courtroom trial well under 10% of cases
The cost of putting on a legitimate murder trial - especially one with extremely high visibility - is so prohibitive that very few prosecutors' offices will take it all the way to trial. Exceptions generally occur when the defendant has significant resources & can himself afford the inverse cost of mounting a defense using highly competent (and thus highly paid) legal counsel
I don’t think the prosecutor’s office will have a problem trying the case as this is now a high-profile matter. But, I think the defense will cave when the shit hits the fan. The husband/wife team that was hired by one of the McMichaels will never make it to trial as they appear to be amateurs. We’ll see who the other defendants hire/get appointed.
It is more than reasonable to state that the prosecutor has very high leverage since there is no question who did what here
It's possible the current defense attorneys may perceive themselves as some kind of John Grisham or Greg Iles fictional advocate that can sway a jury sufficiently to get an acquittal....but there's a reason both those authors are known as fiction writers
@eliehonig - a longtime federal prosecutor - opined today on both twitter and a linked podcast interview that the USDOJ also has the option of bringing both murder charges and also hate crime charges independent of any path taken by the state of Georgia
While it seems unlikely that a DOJ led by a non-prosecutor like Bill Barr would open such a case, it is inversely likely that a new USAG could do exactly that next spring if these three monkeys have somehow evaded long prison sentences from the state of Georgia
