Prosecutor: Grant jury to weigh charges in Georgia shooting

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I have not read the charging complaint - but if the state cannot prove that Junior and Senior attempted to Falsely Imprison Aubery - it's game over - u will never hear the word murder - felony murder - again - I imagine these two are charged with some form of aggravated battery also for the state to fall back on - I have no clue that the fuck constitutes FALSE IMPRISONMENT in GA
 

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Felony Murder is a form of homicide where someone has taken someone's like but did not do it INTENTIONALLY - a basic element of MURDER is INTENT - there is no intent in a felony murder charge - they are not the same charge

Yes there is, there is the intent to commit the underlying felony. That intent is transferred to the murder.

Now hurry up and Google “transferred intent” and post the result and tell everyone I’m the one that doesn’t understand the law.
 

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I have not read the charging complaint - but if the state cannot prove that Junior and Senior attempted to Falsely Imprison Aubery - it's game over - u will never hear the word murder - felony murder - again - I imagine these two are charged with some form of aggravated battery also for the state to fall back on - I have no clue that the fuck constitutes FALSE IMPRISONMENT in GA

The McMichaels are charged with some form of Assault. Bryan is charged with the Attempted False Imprisonment.
 

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The McMichaels are charged with some form of Assault. Bryan is charged with the Attempted False Imprisonment.

Are we to believe this Bryan guy didn’t know the McMichael’s or even know what was going on and was just trying to help? What’s Bryan’s relationship to them?
 
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Are we to believe this Bryan guy didn’t know the McMichael’s or even know what was going on and was just trying to help? What’s Bryan’s relationship to them?

Bryan's lawyer says he passed a lie detector test saying that he had no communication with the McMichaels the day of the shooting.


Bryan was in his yard when he saw Arbery running, followed by a white pickup truck with the McMichaels in it, Gough said. Bryan followed them because he wanted a photo of Arbery, the lawyer said.
"There had been a number of crimes in the neighborhood, and he didn't recognize him, and a vehicle that he did recognize was following him," Gough said.
Gough added that Bryan voluntarily went to local police and answered questions during a "lengthy" interview without a lawyer.
Gough further said on Monday that Bryan took a polygraph test voluntarily without being asked, and he noted that such tests are inadmissible in court but can be used to guide the decisions of prosecutors.
The attorney said that test confirmed that Bryan was unarmed at the time of the shooting and that he did not have any conversation with Gregory or Travis McMichael that day prior to the shooting.
Gough also reiterated Monday that Bryan was merely a witness to the killing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-recorded-ahmaud-arbery-s-shooting-death-video-arrested-n1212496
 

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Bryan's lawyer says he passed a lie detector test saying that he had no communication with the McMichaels the day of the shooting.


Bryan was in his yard when he saw Arbery running, followed by a white pickup truck with the McMichaels in it, Gough said. Bryan followed them because he wanted a photo of Arbery, the lawyer said.
"There had been a number of crimes in the neighborhood, and he didn't recognize him, and a vehicle that he did recognize was following him," Gough said.
Gough added that Bryan voluntarily went to local police and answered questions during a "lengthy" interview without a lawyer.
Gough further said on Monday that Bryan took a polygraph test voluntarily without being asked, and he noted that such tests are inadmissible in court but can be used to guide the decisions of prosecutors.
The attorney said that test confirmed that Bryan was unarmed at the time of the shooting and that he did not have any conversation with Gregory or Travis McMichael that day prior to the shooting.
Gough also reiterated Monday that Bryan was merely a witness to the killing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-recorded-ahmaud-arbery-s-shooting-death-video-arrested-n1212496

So basically he was a Good Samaritan trying to help and now he’s hemmed up in a murder charge? There has to be more to this.
 

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So basically he was a Good Samaritan trying to help and now he’s hemmed up in a murder charge? There has to be more to this.

Supposedly, the police report says Greg McMichael said “Roddie” Bryan tried unsuccessfully to block Arbery in before they did, so who knows...
 

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Yes there is, there is the intent to commit the underlying felony. That intent is transferred to the murder.

Now hurry up and Google “transferred intent” and post the result and tell everyone I’m the one that doesn’t understand the law.

hahaha - I've told I that ad naseaum today - let me help u out some more - regarding the Felony Murder Rule - it was adopted because the underlying crime was so heainous in the first place that they subsitute it's intent with the lack of intent for the killing - ok, like I already told u 10x - the classic case Felony Murder Rule is the bank robbery - or a stick up at the store - of a kidnapping - those are pretty serious crimes by all standards - guess what is not in the same league as those crimes? trying to detain someone with a gun whom you believe to be a burgulary suspect - aka, False Imprisoment - this is not the purpose of the Felony Murder Rule - this in an outlandish application of it

Junior (Im referring to u now - as if ur Mobs son - because u may be dumber than Mob), why do u think theyre also charged with assault or battery??? yes, ur correct - this Felony Murder Rule shit aint gonna go too far and they better have some other shit that might apply
 

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hahaha - I've told I that ad naseaum today - let me help u out some more - regarding the Felony Murder Rule - it was adopted because the underlying crime was so heainous in the first place that they subsitute it's intent with the lack of intent for the killing - ok, like I already told u 10x - the classic case Felony Murder Rule is the bank robbery - or a stick up at the store - of a kidnapping - those are pretty serious crimes by all standards - guess what is not in the same league as those crimes? trying to detain someone with a gun whom you believe to be a burgulary suspect - aka, False Imprisoment - this is not the purpose of the Felony Murder Rule - this in an outlandish application of it

Junior (Im referring to u now - as if ur Mobs son - because u may be dumber than Mob), why do u think theyre also charged with assault or battery??? yes, ur correct - this Felony Murder Rule shit aint gonna go too far and they better have some other shit that might apply

Well, there is a dead guy that was killed during a now charged felony (actually two different charged felonies). That is felony murder by definition, whether you think it is serious enough or not.

The professionals in charge in Georgia apparently have the same opinion that I do. We’ll see who is dumb.
 

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Supposedly, the police report says Greg McMichael said “Roddie” Bryan tried unsuccessfully to block Arbery in before they did, so who knows...

There is so many things that can come out - I heard someone called in a burgulary to the police department and the police department said to contact the McMicheals - who knows - if that's true - they're gonna argue they had the authority to detain the burgulary suspect at gun point as any officer would have this authority - this is probably the best case for the Aubery's - their son was destined for prison or death - just like their other son - in this case - they have recourse - they can sue the City/Municpality/PD - right now they can sue Junior and Senior for wrongful death? u seen a pic of Junior and Senior? probably lose money on the filing fees
 

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Well, there is a dead guy that was killed during a now charged felony (actually two different charged felonies). The professionals in charge in Georgia apparently have the same opinion that I do. We’ll see who is dumb.

And let me guess - ur not willing to make a wager with me?

another Malteese with a Doberman's mouth
 

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This would be the biggest stretch of felony murder I have ever seen in my lifetime.
 

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I will wager no one is convicted of Felony Murder - Willie can hold the money - let's go 2K
 

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Supposedly, the police report says Greg McMichael said “Roddie” Bryan tried unsuccessfully to block Arbery in before they did, so who knows...

Yeah, unless there's some stuff out there we don't know about, this charge on Bryan is really, really flimsy.
 

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So this would be through negotiated plea or any type of trial?

Convicted of FELONY MURDER with which they are charged - not assault - not battery - not a future MURDER charge

FELONY MURDER as they are charged now - convicted - do you know what that means? that means they go to trial and are found guilty by a jury of FELONY MURDER
 

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Yeah, unless there's some stuff out there we don't know about, this charge on Bryan is really, really flimsy.

Ain't none of em gonna get hit with a felony murder, murder, whatever you wanna call it in the end. We shall see what they stick em with I guess, but it won't be that...
 

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2 things we should learn from this thread

Never talk to the Coppers they are not your friends shut up and lawyer up just ask the guy who took the video

and picking a jury of your peers is extremely important
 

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The victim was the instigator, the one who first was violently aggressive. He charged around the front of the pickup like Lawrence Taylor, was not shot at, but he then tried to take the gun from the accused several times as he also pounded him in the face.

That is what I saw, the accused sure had to be worried the gun would be taken and he, himself, could be shot.
 

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