Ok everyone seems to be hung up on the fact that i thought i might have entered incorrect account info, but that was not the case here i was wrong everything i entered was correct. I posted that so everyone could get the true story and not a bias one that would favor me. I wanted everyone to know the situation from day one as i am not trying to sit here and make bob and wagerstreet look bad as i understand bob's reasons and thats why i posted them. I didnt leave anything out. I'm sorry my first post did not mention that stopped payment on one my echecks in another account. What was interesting is bob came out here twisting the story making it seem like i had a history of bouncing checks and posting my conversation which proves nothing different then what i had told all of you already.
If i went and made the same deposit today it would be rejected again for the exact same reason, that these do not post to your account as checks. If anyone has done this through them call your bank and ask them if your transaction was a check and they will say no. Thats the problem i have is that my bank does not allow those kind of transactions to go through. My problem is that it was not my mistake nor wagerstreets mistake it is the way their check company post the transaction. I just wish bob would take a minute to see if i am telling the truth and verify with his check processor that this is the case, but ofcourse not because he has a reason not to pay me this way.
Listen I have no problem if someone can take all the proof and consult with my bank and his check processor and that this was not returned because of funds but due to a reason that was out of my control and i should get a chance to prove that. If the person can not prove what i am saying then fine i shut up and move on, but i can assure you if bob contacted his check processor(or my bank) they would be able to tell him the difference between an automated debit and a check.
Also I have a question why is bob so stuck up on if there was money in my account on sunday. Should that make a difference. I choose to do my banking as i wish, if i choose to write a check from my account my balance should only be a concern to him when the check post and not prior. Bob can not pick and choose who he thinks is a scammer. Unfortunantly as i stated before by allowing instant echecks he understood the risk that people would do them and only deposit money once they win and if they lose they dont, but like i said thats for him to speculate on every account that wins. Would they have paid? See my problem is that this was not my first echeck like i said i had made $1500 worth of them and honered them on losing wagers(I never won a penny from them) but now that i win on one he thinks i had no intentions of paying them this one time. Come on bob why would i lose $1500 prior and pay but this one time was the one i decide not to. I'm sorry yes i did bounce one check for 100 which i explained why in a earlier post.
Does anyone see my point? If this was the first time i made deposit then yes i would say hmmmm. but the 13th(and maybe well over 1000 deposits lifetime with them) one to all of a sudden think i am scamming. Please bob you know i have been honest with you and you are not even giving me a chance to prove to you that it wasnt my mistake. Listen not 1 of the 13 echeck i wrote had funds in the account when i wrote them. I ALLWAYS tranfser the funds after i place the deposit. As i am sure a lot of you would not leave your checking account funded very well when you are giving out your checking account number online all the time.
Thats it bob you are trying to weasel your way out of paying a wager. For all i know you just cancelled my deposit all together and told me it didnt go through because my bank doesnt even have record of any activity on the account all just because i called you worried that i might have typed in the wrong account number or invalid account and wanted to know what would happen if that was the case and i clearly explained to you at the time that i didnt know if that was the case until my bank opened on tuesday and it wasnt i entered all the correct info.
How many of you think if i lost the wager and the same thing happened bob would fix his banking problem and try again.
Bob i hope somewhere down there you have a heart and give me the benefit of the doubt and work with me to prove where the error lies as i think that is the right thing to do for someone who has played with you for 5 years honestly.
Be warned everyone these echecks are dangerous what prevents a book from cancelling your echeck if you win and then saying sorry it did not go through.
I apologize to everyone that is not interested in this thread and my lenthy replies for annoying you with this.
If i went and made the same deposit today it would be rejected again for the exact same reason, that these do not post to your account as checks. If anyone has done this through them call your bank and ask them if your transaction was a check and they will say no. Thats the problem i have is that my bank does not allow those kind of transactions to go through. My problem is that it was not my mistake nor wagerstreets mistake it is the way their check company post the transaction. I just wish bob would take a minute to see if i am telling the truth and verify with his check processor that this is the case, but ofcourse not because he has a reason not to pay me this way.
Listen I have no problem if someone can take all the proof and consult with my bank and his check processor and that this was not returned because of funds but due to a reason that was out of my control and i should get a chance to prove that. If the person can not prove what i am saying then fine i shut up and move on, but i can assure you if bob contacted his check processor(or my bank) they would be able to tell him the difference between an automated debit and a check.
Also I have a question why is bob so stuck up on if there was money in my account on sunday. Should that make a difference. I choose to do my banking as i wish, if i choose to write a check from my account my balance should only be a concern to him when the check post and not prior. Bob can not pick and choose who he thinks is a scammer. Unfortunantly as i stated before by allowing instant echecks he understood the risk that people would do them and only deposit money once they win and if they lose they dont, but like i said thats for him to speculate on every account that wins. Would they have paid? See my problem is that this was not my first echeck like i said i had made $1500 worth of them and honered them on losing wagers(I never won a penny from them) but now that i win on one he thinks i had no intentions of paying them this one time. Come on bob why would i lose $1500 prior and pay but this one time was the one i decide not to. I'm sorry yes i did bounce one check for 100 which i explained why in a earlier post.
Does anyone see my point? If this was the first time i made deposit then yes i would say hmmmm. but the 13th(and maybe well over 1000 deposits lifetime with them) one to all of a sudden think i am scamming. Please bob you know i have been honest with you and you are not even giving me a chance to prove to you that it wasnt my mistake. Listen not 1 of the 13 echeck i wrote had funds in the account when i wrote them. I ALLWAYS tranfser the funds after i place the deposit. As i am sure a lot of you would not leave your checking account funded very well when you are giving out your checking account number online all the time.
Thats it bob you are trying to weasel your way out of paying a wager. For all i know you just cancelled my deposit all together and told me it didnt go through because my bank doesnt even have record of any activity on the account all just because i called you worried that i might have typed in the wrong account number or invalid account and wanted to know what would happen if that was the case and i clearly explained to you at the time that i didnt know if that was the case until my bank opened on tuesday and it wasnt i entered all the correct info.
How many of you think if i lost the wager and the same thing happened bob would fix his banking problem and try again.
Bob i hope somewhere down there you have a heart and give me the benefit of the doubt and work with me to prove where the error lies as i think that is the right thing to do for someone who has played with you for 5 years honestly.
Be warned everyone these echecks are dangerous what prevents a book from cancelling your echeck if you win and then saying sorry it did not go through.
I apologize to everyone that is not interested in this thread and my lenthy replies for annoying you with this.