| *Start of 2015 | $307,421,594 |
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Full List of Expenses on Dodgers 2015 payroll, as of start of 2015, pretty interesting stuff: http://www.truebluela.com/2013/10/21/4861112/los-angeles-dodgers-payroll
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Full List of Expenses on Dodgers 2015 payroll, as of start of 2015, pretty interesting stuff: http://www.truebluela.com/2013/10/21/4861112/los-angeles-dodgers-payroll
Arrieta is ahead of Greinke in the cy young voting at the moment in my book.
Arrieta.....17-6 with a 2.11 ERA and the no hitter puts him over the top,plus his team is a contender.
Greinke...14-3 with a 1.61 ERA.
Arrieta is the one to catch.....No wash here bro.
Arrieta.....17-6 with a 2.11 ERA and the no hitter puts him over the top,plus his team is a contender.
Greinke...14-3 with a 1.61 ERA.
Arrieta is the one to catch.....No wash here bro.
LOL you do realize that the Dodgers lead their division, right? So it's retarded to throw the "plus his team is a contender" argument in there when discussing Arrieta vs Greinke.
Wins mean very little.
If anyone's ahead it's Greinke, I was just being a homer by even calling it a wash.
Now if Jake's September looks anything like his August, then he's looking good to win it.
Scoreless streak was only a scoreless streak......He didn`t break any record.
Read the numbers.....Bump this thread at the end of the season.
Jake is a easy Cy Young Award winner....PERIOD!
I can`t talk to you.....You don't know baseball.......You`re living in the stone age.....I put this thread in my library.
Conversation is over and done with.
I`ll bump it in October.....Until then.......Watch and learn from Greenie.......He`s knows his stuff.
I`m out!
One more thing before I go.......When he`s a 20 game winner.....Then you will really shut your trap......You should shut it now though.
Bring knowledge to the table Harry.....Bickering don`t get it done.....Knowledge does.
You do realize I'm a Cubs fan right? You do realize I know how awesome Arrieta has been and that I hope he wins every start he ever pitches for the Cubs, right?
I will shut my trap when he wins 20? I'll be the happiest guy on the forum. Yeah, that'll really show me...
I believe Greinke is ahead in the race right now. That is not a slight on Jake.
Go blather to yourself in some weird in-game thread, we were in here talking baseball like gentlemen.
Matter of fact he still has 6 starts left......A whole 6 starts......Who wins 20 games these days???........He will....Guaranteed.
That alone should win you a Cy Young.....Then we throw in the No hitter............And a 2.11 ERA.
I could hardly wait for this award to be presented.....Hurry up!
I will bump this thread everyday for a month.
That alone should win you a Cy Young.....Then we throw in the No hitter............And a 2.11 ERA.
I could hardly wait for this award to be presented.....Hurry up!
I will bump this thread everyday for a month.
OK, knowledge and facts?
ERA
Greinke 1.61
Arrieta 2.11
That is a half-run difference. That is huge. For some perspective, the gap between Greinke and Arrieta (ranked 1 and 2 in MLB, respectively) is wider than the gap between Arrietta and Harvey (ranked 2 and 10, respectively).
WHIP
Greinke - 1st in the NL at 0.85
Arrieta - 5th in the NL at 0.94
WAR
Greinke 7.7
Arrieta 5.5
Arrieta has 20 more strikeouts but Greinke is still top 10 and has 13 fewer walks. Greinke's K/BB ratio (5.29) is actually better than Arrieta's (4.32)
Arrieta had a no-hitter, yes.
But Greinke had 45 2/3 inning scoreless streak.
There have been 6 no-hitters this year. Greinke's scoreless streak was the longest since 1968. Which accomplishment is more significant?
Oh plus Greinke's team is in first place in its division, the Cubs are in 3rd and fighting for a wild card.
There's my knowledge. Where's yours?
Guy is just a blowhard.
I'm the biggest Arrieta fan on the board, but he's just wrong. And when I presented an alternate point of view the response was that I didn't know baseball, and to look at the numbers.
Well there are the numbers. Remind me again who doesn't know what they're talking about?
Then he was reminded about the guy who had 45 2/3 innings scoreless and leads the league in WAR, ERA, and WHIP.
As soon as he suddenly recalled that the runaway league ERA leader might in fact be in the Cy Young race, he busts out this gem in support of Arrieta.
That's right folks, now he forgot that the Dodgers are not only a contender, they lead the West by 3.5 games.
When confronted with these facts, we get this
So apparently I'm living in the stone age. Whatever the fuck that means. Hahahahahaha.
It's all going to come down to the final month .
HC that was the longest scoreless run since 88 not 68.
But nevertheless the scoreless streak is more impressive.
Taking nothing away from the no hitter. Anyone can get hot for 9 innings. But only cyyoung caliber pitchers have ever had a scoreless run that long.
There are many HOFers that have never thrown a no no and many pitchers who had bad careers that did throw no no's.
Every single pitcher in MLB history who had ever had 45 innings of scoreless ball has either won cy youngs or in the HOF or both.
Its honestly close but if the season ended tonight ZG Over JA by a nose.
But since the season is not over yet it could still go either way.
HC that was the longest scoreless run since 88 not 68.
But nevertheless the scoreless streak is more impressive.
Taking nothing away from the no hitter. Anyone can get hot for 9 innings. But only cyyoung caliber pitchers have ever had a scoreless run that long.
There are many HOFers that have never thrown a no no and many pitchers who had bad careers that did throw no no's.
Every single pitcher in MLB history who had ever had 45 innings of scoreless ball has either won cy youngs or in the HOF or both.
Its honestly close but if the season ended tonight ZG Over JA by a nose.
But since the season is not over yet it could still go either way.
