Michael Sam is starting to look and sound like a man who might not be drafted

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I know two things for sure. Richie Incognito won't be re-signing in St Louis and Gregg Williams is having a hard time trying to figure out what word he can use in camp to call people he would describe as being soft.
 
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Michael Sam will make less than 400K for life and the emo will make less than 30 K for life. Solution is simple.
 

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Originally Posted by StevieRay
What do u tell an 8 yr old boy or 7 yr old girl that watched the draft?
Yea I agree with you complety here...... not a good moment for the NFL. I have no problem with Sam playing the league but that display after he got drafted was totally unnecessary. They always fashion themselves a family freindly legaue and then they go out of their way to broadcast something like that?




Such a non issue cant believe people are whining about this. I could barely stay awake thru the first round of the draft, I wonder how many millions of kids were dying to watch the 7th round selections to see this attrocity lol. Crying about how awful it was just made sure they got to see it on the front page of every internet site and paper and television report, job well done as usual protectors of morality :p
 
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i honestly hope that he plays great. Would love to hear what people will say then? God Bless the U.S.A.!!!
 

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his bf kinda reminded me of johnny weir when i saw him at first anyone else this that? I didn't like the coverage on espn of the last reporting from the gay bar in LA whats that have anything to do with the draft? Bottom line is if he can play who cares if he's gay?
 

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I'm all for complete equality and I'm for gay rights. I don't think anyone should be discriminated against based on preference, race, ethnicity, etc

However I don't wanna be seeing 2 dudes kissing up on each other. Do that shit in private. Even on Modern Family I'm pretty sure they never have the gay couple kiss and it is for good reason..

Most of these NFL kids nowadays are 25 and are progressive and are fine with people living how they wanna live. Doesn't mean they wanna be around a guy groping another guy.

My guess is Sam kissed him on TV because he knows there is $/celebrity equity in doing so. He is a 7th rd pick that is a longshot to make it in the NFL so he is setting himself up nicely for speaking engagements and 15 minutes of fame.
 

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i honestly hope that he plays great. Would love to hear what people will say then? God Bless the U.S.A.!!!

Normal people won't say much. The far right, old dumb fucks that dominate a lot of these threads...will claim obama rigged the league so gay liberals have a hero pro athlete.
 

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I think a much bigger deal is being made out of this than what is really there. Aside from the kiss that we see every week on TV/movies anyway, I really believe his being gay didn't have much to do with the round that he went in. My bet is with him being undersize and slow, his gayness most likely didn't make more than one round of difference, if that. I think too many are still hung up on the college game equating to the pro game. It simply doesn't. Sam was a great college player. Tebow was a great college player. But we're talking about two different games. And one of them has a superstar at every position. If you get down to the nitty gritty with Sam's stats, besides the relatively poor combine showing, the bulk of his production during the season came against the weaker teams. Don't think the NFL isn't looking at the same numbers. Their probably thinking he's not athletic enough to play OLB, and he would be an undersized DE. Like I said, way too much emphasis is being put on this topic, and I kind of get it. But they really aren't doing this kid any favors by all of the coverage. But progress is always made slowly when it comes to social issues. People probably won't bat an eye at this kind of thing 10 years from now.
 

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I think a much bigger deal is being made out of this than what is really there. Aside from the kiss that we see every week on TV/movies anyway, I really believe his being gay didn't have much to do with the round that he went in. My bet is with him being undersize and slow, his gayness most likely didn't make more than one round of difference, if that. I think too many are still hung up on the college game equating to the pro game. It simply doesn't. Sam was a great college player. Tebow was a great college player. But we're talking about two different games. And one of them has a superstar at every position. If you get down to the nitty gritty with Sam's stats, besides the relatively poor combine showing, the bulk of his production during the season came against the weaker teams. Don't think the NFL isn't looking at the same numbers. Their probably thinking he's not athletic enough to play OLB, and he would be an undersized DE. Like I said, way too much emphasis is being put on this topic, and I kind of get it. But they really aren't doing this kid any favors by all of the coverage. But progress is always made slowly when it comes to social issues. People probably won't bat an eye at this kind of thing 10 years from now.

To say they aren't "doing this kid any favors" is being naive. He knew exactly what he was doing when he kissed his BF on TV. If his NFL career fails, which it likely will, he is set for awhile doing public speaking and showing up on a few red carpets, etc....

I don't think it is a huge issue, but I'd prefer not to see guys making out on TV....
 

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To say they aren't "doing this kid any favors" is being naive. He knew exactly what he was doing when he kissed his BF on TV. If his NFL career fails, which it likely will, he is set for awhile doing public speaking and showing up on a few red carpets, etc....

I don't think it is a huge issue, but I'd prefer not to see guys making out on TV....
And how many players kissed their girlfriends? Your trying to equate it as something different when it really isn't.
 

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And how many players kissed their girlfriends? Your trying to equate it as something different when it really isn't.

You really don't think that was calculuated at all and just spur of the moment? He cameout as gay months ago, he has handlers who are choreographing his every move.

Obviously it was going to cause a huge stir, you don't need to be a genius to figure that out. If all he wanted to do was play in the NFL then he would've limited the draft day spectacle and went to camp and tried to perform. Like I said, it is 2014 and I doubt his teammates care about his lifestyle much but they don't exactly wanna see it on display.
 

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You really don't think that was calculuated at all and just spur of the moment? He cameout as gay months ago, he has handlers who are choreographing his every move.

Obviously it was going to cause a huge stir, you don't need to be a genius to figure that out. If all he wanted to do was play in the NFL then he would've limited the draft day spectacle and went to camp and tried to perform. Like I said, it is 2014 and I doubt his teammates care about his lifestyle much but they don't exactly wanna see it on display.

Yea the whole display was clearly choreagrphed to make some point. He would be much better off to keep a low profile and try to make the team...... otherwise his only future will be on the talk show circuit whining about how homophobia destroyed his otherwise promising career. It seems likely the NFL will make sure to get him onto a roster this year...... but he will have to get himself onto the playing field. Fisher may have been willing to draft him as a favor to the commissioner...... but no one will play him as a favor. Perhaps if he had focused on football instead of giving interviews over his personal life...... he would have run faster than 4.91 at the combine.
 

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You really don't think that was calculuated at all and just spur of the moment? He cameout as gay months ago, he has handlers who are choreographing his every move.

Obviously it was going to cause a huge stir, you don't need to be a genius to figure that out. If all he wanted to do was play in the NFL then he would've limited the draft day spectacle and went to camp and tried to perform. Like I said, it is 2014 and I doubt his teammates care about his lifestyle much but they don't exactly wanna see it on display.
I guarantee you every kiss that was made on ESPN this weekend was calculated or planned or they wouldn't have had their girlfriends there. And every player has handlers/agents that are calculating their every move. That's the life of an NFL recruit. Especially one that was Defensive Player Of The Year in the best conference in college football. The only problem with him coming out before the NFL draft is of course the risk that he may go lower in the draft. But it is also somewhat of a risk for the NFL team drafting him, because now if he can't perform to expectations and gets cut, the blame will start rolling in that they cut him because he's gay. The Rams saved the NFL a big PR problem if the defensive player of the year hadn't been drafted., But they may now have a problem of their own if things don't work out. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Like I said, this is a much different game. Jackson Jeffcoat was named Defensive Player Of The Year in the Big 12 and wasn't even drafted. Which should tell everybody right there that this isn't "a gay thing"
 

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I disagree about it being orchestrated. Did the Pouncey's orchestrate kissing each other on the lips as well?
 

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