Just got a speeding ticket I think ill go fight this one...need help

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im sure you fine gentleman can help me with a defense that will work...I was going over the top of a hill on the way down the car speeds up when im braking to slow down there is a cop coming the other way...then bammo ticket time for going 48 in a 35....surely I can mount some defense here?? there are no extra court costs that can be applied if I lose..


any suggestions from you fine gentlemen is appreciated


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Hire Lt. Kaffee

And use the "Liar Liar Pance on Fire Defense".

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Fishhead said:
Pay the ticket

Next case please.

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depends. what is the fine? $250? How long will it take you at court? 4 hours? That's $62.50 per hour. How much do you make now per hour doing whatever it is you do to make a livng? If it's less than $62.50 per hour, you go to court. If you make more than that, you stay home.......
 

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Dante, my friend, you won't beat it. If you were a woman with big tits, maybe. Pay it blood.
 

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sherman said:
depends. what is the fine? $250? How long will it take you at court? 4 hours? That's $62.50 per hour. How much do you make now per hour doing whatever it is you do to make a livng? If it's less than $62.50 per hour, you go to court. If you make more than that, you stay home.......

$250?????

Where in the hell do you live?

Japan?

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Judge Wapner said:
Dante, my friend, you won't beat it. If you were a woman with big tits, maybe. Pay it blood.


Obviously you havent met Dante....:dancefool
 

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Judge Wapner said:
Dante, my friend, you won't beat it. If you were a woman with big tits, maybe. Pay it blood.


Judge I fear you 100% correct as usual:sad3: was just hoping someone had a serious excuse I could use....since I lose nothing on trying
 

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The court will often reduce the fine and let you plead to something lesser if you appear. It may save insurance money later. I'd go to court.


Maybe they give you traffic school !
 

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Dante, been there done that, just pay it, can't be beat.


7 years ago, i was driving down I-26, hit a cut in the hill, hit 80mph(god knows how) in my dads 93' Ford Ranger. This thing couldnt drive a wedge out of a pigs ass, but hit 80mph the day i was driving it.

I debated with the officer for a while, he dropped it , and sent me on my way.:drink: :drink:

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Fishhead said:
$250?????

Where in the hell do you live?

Japan?

-F-

i was nailed in Wisconsin, just north of the illinois border on I-94 and it was 280 bux for speeding less than 20 over!
 

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The real damage is not the fine but possible increase in insurance rates that may come later as a result of speeding ticket.




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wilheim said:
The real damage is not the fine but possible increase in insurance rates that may come later as a result of speeding ticket.




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Exactly...the insurance Co. will be sending you an increase you can bet on it...I got a ticket last year for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign (it was such a ticky tack BS ticket) so instead of wasting a day in court I just paid the 75 bucks...Well, now i get a letter from insurance that my rates are increased!

fvcking BS..I had no other offenses and the ticket was BS to begin with...the cop from his vantage point could not have even known if I came to a complete stop (the stop sign sits behind hedges, he was coming down a hill and there was no way he could have known if I stopped before the hedges...

Anyway, now I have a higher insurance rate from it...
 

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You should always go fight it
If the cop doesn't show up you'll get off
If you have never had a speeding ticket previous, I would also explain the situation and how you were going up a hill...

At this point it really can't be any worse....the judge will more than likely reduce the fine and put it as a suspended charge which will stay off your records

Its worth a shot if you got the time
 

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See if you can get traffic school and probation. As long as you don't get another ticket for a year your insurance Co. will never know about it. You still have to pay the ticket, but the money you save in insurance will be worth it. In California they have court-approved online traffic schools which take about 1/4 of the time that the classroom schools do, plus you can go to traffic school and get your bets in at the same time :103631605 .
 

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The best way to beat one is NOT to get one, so we'll deal with that first.

WHAT NOT TO DO:

1. Don't act like a dick. If you act like a belligerent idiot, you will end up with a lot more than just a speeding ticket. More likely you will end up in jail with your car impounded!

2. Do not admit guilt. Say nothing, if possible. The cop can use your admission against you in court. Better to say nothing or act dumb (see below)

WHAT YOU MUST DO:

1. Say "yes Officer, no Officer" to everything. You want this over with - fast!

2. Act stupid. It helps, even cops don't want to torture the stupid!

3. Act scared! As if the tickets means the end of your life! Again, cops waver at this point. They may not write it if they feel sorry for you.

4. Act ignorant about what you did. Even if they give you a ticket at least you didn't admit you were speeding, which they will use in court against you later.

IF YOU GET A TICKET:

1. Don't argue the situation out on the road - you will not win! You don't want them to remember you when you do go to court. SAY NOTHING - then drive away.

2. Remember everything about the situation! How much traffic, the weather, which lane you were in. Write it down if you are too stoned to remember this stuff.

AFTER YOU GET THE TICKET/PRE-TRIAL PLEA OR APPEARANCE

1. Always plead 'not guilty.' This may be a pre-trial appearance, or you may be able to send in the ticket with 'not guilty' plea. Try to delay a pre-trial appearance if possible. There will be a specified date if you have to mail in the plea.

AS THE COURT DATE APPROACHES:

1. Very important. DELAY, DELAY, DELAY!!!!!! Keep putting off that court date! You don't want to go to court! You want to make it so the cop thinks the case is so far in the past he'll never remember anything. A small story: When John Hussar, the director of The Blur of Insanity went to college he got a speeding ticket (90 mph in a 55 mph zone) from a New York State Trooper. He successfully put off going to court for two and a half years (mainly by lying about going on various trips to Europe)!! When he final did show up in court he discovered that the Trooper had been transferred out of the area! The case was immediately dismissed!
The Lesson? The longer you wait the better chance the cop won't show up!

2. Request information (optional, it can work for you, or make them want to nail you more!) Also they may or may not give you any of this depending on local laws!:

a.Copies of manufacturers names, including makes, models and serial numbers of all radar/laser guns in use by the Town/City/State Police Department.

b. Copies of manufacturers recommended maintenance for all of the above stated radar guns.

c. Copies of any manufacturer literature as it relates to the correct use, including but not limited to mounting, aiming, weather and traffic limitations, for all radar guns in use by the Town/City/State Police Department.

d. A copy of the past six months' maintenance records for all of the above stated radar guns, including, but not limited to, calibration specifications.

e. A copy of the Authorized Certification of Training, issued to the Officer who gave you the ticket, in the proper use of all radar guns in use by that Town/City/State Police Department he/she works for.

f. A copy of the patrol car assignments for the date you got the ticket.

This should give you something to work with, and also make the cop not want to show up to deal with all this crap!

COURT - A FRIGHTENING PLACE

What happens in court:

Go check in with the clerk.
See if your officer arrives, if he doesn't that will often be the end right there.
The judge will call your case.
The officer will testify first.
You then question the officer
You then call any witnesses you have
The officer can make a closing statement
You can make a closing statement
The judge decides.
1. Wear a suit, if you own one. If you look like a derelict, you will be treated like a derelict. We don't care if you think that is unfair! The world is not fair - grow up.

2. Be nice. Again, being a dick will just get you in trouble and solves nothing.

3. IT is the officers duty to prove you GUILTY. If he fails to prove your guilt the case will be dismissed.

BE confident that you will win the case!

Check the actual wording of the code you violated. If the officer fails to prove guilt in any part of the code then you should be dismissed.

BEFORE an officer can use the radar/laser reading as evidence, he has to establish a few things Jurisdiction Certification, up to date, accurate, traffic and engineering survey, radar/laser properly calibrated, tuning forks calibrated (with radar), FCC license, radar/laser unit appears on that FCC license

If the officer attempts to use the radar reading before establishing those things above, politely interrupt and say "objection your honor, inadmissible evidence."

Then tell the judge why. If the officer fails to prove your guilt at the end of his testimony don't question him, move to have the case dismissed. And explain what he failed to prove.

If the officer was moving when was his speedometer last calibrated? Have the records to see if he contradicts himself. If officer guesses your speed. throw something and ask him how fast it was going. If he is off by 3 MPH at 15 MPH speed then think about how far off he is at 35 MPH.

Were the speed limits prima facie? or Absolute? If prima facie then prove the speed you were traveling at wasn't unsafe.

ASK questions like: what color clothes was I wearing? did I have any passengers?

What was the weather like? To see how well versed the officer is.

See if you can attend traffic school in exchange for a dismissal of the charge (never bothers your insurance.)

OFTEN the worst part of a ticket is the increase in your insurance. By beating the ticket you don't have to worry about that...

Hopefully the cop won't show up - in which case you will ask that the case be dismissed - 99% of the time it will.
 

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I go to court and look for the officer who wrote the ticket, if I don't see him i plead not guilty, then the judge calls for the clown and they say he's not here, and judge says dismissed.

One time the judge was so mad he cited the cop for contempt of court for not showing.

If the cop shows you have little to no chance without witnesses. Judge holds cops testimony in much higher weight than citizens.

Now we have attorneys in Jax florida who will take 79 bucks and go to court for you and they just get it dismissed with their buddy's in the DA's office.

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If all of the above fails take it on the LAM (I recommend Costa Rica).


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Need A Friend Who Is A Attorney...i Just Pass My Tickets To Him...and Bam They Are Gone No Fine And Nothing On My Record....have A Friend ?
 

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Dr.Pepper said:
1. Very important. DELAY, DELAY, DELAY!!!!!! Keep putting off that court date! You don't want to go to court! You want to make it so the cop thinks the case is so far in the past he'll never remember anything.

this is the best advice because it is so easy. Just write a letter (or fill out the form, depnding on what court you're in) requesting a new trial date. You can usually do this once without any questions, and then again by getting a letter from an employer or something. Trafiic court is not a huge priority so it is not that big of a deal to do
 

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