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Is PaywithPercocet from Plano TX the Worst kind of stiff?

I Set him up with a credit account, in which He Won about $1100. He was paid instantly.

He Ended up losing, and He sent a Payp*l which bounced. He Went out of his way to say sorry, although the excuse he gave didn't make sense. Things happen and even if he needed a payment plan, it would have been okay.

He offered to send 5d transfer. We were fine with Fedex. He took a video of putting Money Orders and Cash in a Fedex envelope, and a video of dropping it in the drop off box.

Because of the video, his payment was credited. He then asked for a credit increase. He told us about his great job, and that he has 5k in 5dimes , including sent screen shot.

Flanders went on to talk about what a “class act” this book was to work with, that he himself has a small sheet of players. He said he wanted out of the business and would like to forward his players to us because he knows they will be well taken care of. He sends over some numbers of the players sheets.

The sheets were reviewed and some of the numbers just didn’t make sense, asked for some other documents so a fair offer could be made.

When Fedex got here, it was a check. A note saying “lost other envelope” ……. Of Course the check bounced. Which means he bought money orders just to take the Video, and then deposited them into his own account.

Which also means, he never had intentions of paying but he still had the balls to ask for a credit limit increase.

Again, the book reaches out and tells him we don’t need excuses, if he’s in too deep, lets just get a payment plan going. He responds, finally, Saying there is no problem. That he has 20k in his 5dimes account now, sends screenshot. But never gets back in touch. Soon after the number is blocked.

He was contacted via text, work phone, email, facebook. No response.

The documents that were requested about his book also never come. After looking into it further, It turns out he doesn’t even have his own book. He was selling air. These people that were on his fake book, respond that Andrew is “untrustworthy” and “shady”.

Since, He has made it clear that he has no intentions of paying.
 

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Is PaywithPercocet from Plano TX the Worst kind of stiff?

I Set him up with a credit account, in which He Won about $1100. He was paid instantly.

He Ended up losing, and He sent a Payp*l which bounced. He Went out of his way to say sorry, although the excuse he gave didn't make sense. Things happen and even if he needed a payment plan, it would have been okay.

He offered to send 5d transfer. We were fine with Fedex. He took a video of putting Money Orders and Cash in a Fedex envelope, and a video of dropping it in the drop off box.

Because of the video, his payment was credited. He then asked for a credit increase. He told us about his great job, and that he has 5k in 5dimes , including sent screen shot.

Flanders went on to talk about what a “class act” this book was to work with, that he himself has a small sheet of players. He said he wanted out of the business and would like to forward his players to us because he knows they will be well taken care of. He sends over some numbers of the players sheets.

The sheets were reviewed and some of the numbers just didn’t make sense, asked for some other documents so a fair offer could be made.

When Fedex got here, it was a check. A note saying “lost other envelope” ……. Of Course the check bounced. Which means he bought money orders just to take the Video, and then deposited them into his own account.

Which also means, he never had intentions of paying but he still had the balls to ask for a credit limit increase.

Again, the book reaches out and tells him we don’t need excuses, if he’s in too deep, lets just get a payment plan going. He responds, finally, Saying there is no problem. That he has 20k in his 5dimes account now, sends screenshot. But never gets back in touch. Soon after the number is blocked.

He was contacted via text, work phone, email, facebook. No response.

The documents that were requested about his book also never come. After looking into it further, It turns out he doesn’t even have his own book. He was selling air. These people that were on his fake book, respond that Andrew is “untrustworthy” and “shady”.

He has made it clear that he has no intentions of paying.

End of thread. You guys never get it.
 

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maybe he'll pay u with percocets?
 

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Yes. And I'm not sure why anyone reading would be surprised that a drug addled, jobless [he had/has no job], loser would act in any other way.

I feel badly for you Defying and anyone else involved. But, I must say I am always amazed that people continuously get involved in financial transactions with (often degenerate, loser) strangers from the Internet. It is mind boggling to me.
 

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Child molester is the only thing lower than a stiff
 

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Yes. And I'm not sure why anyone reading would be surprised that a drug addled, jobless [he had/has no job], loser would act in any other way.

I feel badly for you Defying and anyone else involved. But, I must say I am always amazed that people continuously get involved in financial transactions with (often degenerate, loser) strangers from the Internet. It is mind boggling to me.

How do you know his job/drug situation?

Let me rephrase: you must THINK you know his situation.

Appreciate the "kind" words of commiseration, but if you don't know what you're talking about then just STFU
 

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So many wannabe bookies out there that don't know how to book.
You think its as easy as setting up a PPH and letting the money roll in.
You could not be more wrong.

Some of you guys need to get out of the booking business.
I would never allow any poster on this forum a credit account even if they had 1000000000000 post and was a super super super mod without a deposit.

But if you guys want to keep lying to yourself thinking that the next forum poster is going to be better then the last forum poster then all I can say is good luck.
 

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he was fired from his Job last June... so Maybe acebb has had some communication with him...

I think his own people calling him shady and untrustworthy speaks volumes... And that was just 2 out of the 5 or so that was contacted...

I just think you have to be a special kind of POS to keep lying that much. I mean really, what does the lies by you, 1-2 days? week max? There's no end game. You cant even admit you f'ed up, so you lie.

I imagine if that many people know he's shady he's a pretty miserable person, hopefully, this will keep someone else from getting cheated.
 

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Yes PWP is the worst kind of stiff.
But sometimes there is fault on both sides.
A good bookie would have never let this happen.

Its like NFL trends leaving 6K in his night stand drawer and his guest stealing the money.
Yes the guest who stole his money are scum of the Earth.
But him leaving 6K in his nightstand drawer was just as dumb.

Anyway I hope lessons are learned here.

Good luck.
 

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So many wannabe bookies out there that don't know how to book.
You think its as easy as setting up a PPH and letting the money roll in.
You could not be more wrong.

Some of you guys need to get out of the booking business.
I would never allow any poster on this forum a credit account even if they had 1000000000000 post and was a super super super mod without a deposit.

But if you guys want to keep lying to yourself thinking that the next forum poster is going to be better then the last forum poster then all I can say is good luck.

Yeah, I think that it's flawed business plan to think you can book from forum. You can't. You simply cannot have long term success that way. A local market is way better.

This book is mostly all local. I have good relationship with a handful of posters, and have made the introduction. I think 5ish forum people are with this local, 2 of 5 have now stiff. The others have been perfect.

thats a good point Chop that needs to be reiterated.

I think start up books underestimate the number of people that will get in over there head.
 

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Yeah, I think that it's flawed business plan to think you can book from forum. You can't. You simply cannot have long term success that way. A local market is way better.

This book is mostly all local. I have good relationship with a handful of posters, and have made the introduction. I think 5ish forum people are with this local, 2 of 5 have now stiff. The others have been perfect.

thats a good point Chop that needs to be reiterated.

I think start up books underestimate the number of people that will get in over there head.

Make them put up a deposit of at least $3000 to start.

If they refuse this means they either can't afford to up up 3K or it means they have no intention of playing it fairly.
In either case you don't want this player.
 

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Seemed like a good guy, I provided him with some pph awhile back but we long since parted ways. He recently sent a ****** to someone for me to settle his old bill. I may have to go back and review the transaction based upon this.
 

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Make them put up a deposit of at least $3000 to start.

If they refuse this means they either can't afford to up up 3K or it means they have no intention of playing it fairly.
In either case you don't want this player.

in fairness, that would take a ton of trust from the player, as I'm sure there's a fair share of stiff books...

I think 50% of your desired credit limit down is fair, but even then being a forum bookie isn't appealing.
 

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Seemed like a good guy, I provided him with some pph awhile back but we long since parted ways. He recently sent a ****** to someone for me to settle his old bill. I may have to go back and review the transaction based upon this.

definitely comes across the right way... he's extremely polite and likable

think he just got buried in his lies, even though he was given an out...
 

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Seemed like a good guy, I provided him with some pph awhile back but we long since parted ways. He recently sent a ****** to someone for me to settle his old bill. I may have to go back and review the transaction based upon this.

Don't they all seem like good guys at first?
I know a "SO CALLED" good guy I referred one time that was a "SO CALLED" good guy.
2K later and 2 weeks later no longer a good guy.
 

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