sometimes the odds can be beaten....
i was at a crap table at the luxor about 6 or 7 years ago....a girl walked up to the table and placed a $5 chip on "the field".....the field is one of...if not THE...worst plays you can make....to one not up with the odds, it appears the field gives you many many many numbers ...thus many chances....to win....it does not....it is a losing proposition...
with that being said, this girl, won...pressed her bet...won...pressed won...pressed and so on and so on ....and she quit when she walked away with $5 K........... i just shook my head....but things like that do happen
i was at a crap table at the luxor about 6 or 7 years ago....a girl walked up to the table and placed a $5 chip on "the field".....the field is one of...if not THE...worst plays you can make....to one not up with the odds, it appears the field gives you many many many numbers ...thus many chances....to win....it does not....it is a losing proposition...
with that being said, this girl, won...pressed her bet...won...pressed won...pressed and so on and so on ....and she quit when she walked away with $5 K........... i just shook my head....but things like that do happen
Whatever people want to do with their own money is fine with me, I wish you the best of luck. I think at first people were trying to help you out though and it just turned into bashing. This martyangle system has been a known loser throughout every game. College kids are famous for going to a casino and knowing they can win at blackjack playing this way. The one thing they all have in common is that they all went broke doing it. But like the guy said about the field bet at the craps table (which is by far not the worst bet on the table. Hardways, world bets and so on are far far worst. It still is a sucker bet though.) You can get lucky and win with your system. I defintally wish you the best of luck today because I just so happen to be on the Cubs as well. The juice almost scared me off but I went with it anyway. I am not a pro baseball capper that has all the answers, and I don't think that the guys giving you advise are either. I just think that people do know what is notorious for not working. They are just trying to help.
heatohio....
the field is a one roll bet....
hardways are not...
in addition.....the house may beat you on the odds with the hardways...but they still pay you odds...it should pay 10-1 but only pays 8-1 on the 6 and 8..4 and 10 should pay 8 to 1 but they only pay 6 to 1
the field...on the other hand...is a one roll bet....and pays even money unless you call the 12 or 2 in which case you get paid double...when they each have only one way of coming in and should pay 16 to 1 or 20-1 if you're on a table that has no 5 or 9 included in the field
the field is a one roll bet....
hardways are not...
in addition.....the house may beat you on the odds with the hardways...but they still pay you odds...it should pay 10-1 but only pays 8-1 on the 6 and 8..4 and 10 should pay 8 to 1 but they only pay 6 to 1
the field...on the other hand...is a one roll bet....and pays even money unless you call the 12 or 2 in which case you get paid double...when they each have only one way of coming in and should pay 16 to 1 or 20-1 if you're on a table that has no 5 or 9 included in the field
I have been on the right side and wrong side of negative progressions in casinos. One thing everyone may be missing is that these teams are huge favorites for a reason, they win and win regularly. The Yankees have won 19 straight against KC in NY (yes, I know, KC swept them in KC last year). I don't know if this is a winning system or not and it will certainly get expensive when he loses a couple in a row, but good luck to you if you think it works.
Too expensive for my blood.
Too expensive for my blood.
rfb said:
Thanks for the craps lesson but I'm not sure that I need it. The middle of that table is considered no mans land, only sucker bets in that area. I never play the field so it's not like I think it is a good bet by any means. I don't play many bets at all at the craps table, I'll place money on the 4-10, if someone is not playing full odds on their pass line I try to weasel my way into thier bet and put money on the free odds without having to play the pass line myself. Or when I'm rolling I'll play the don't pass. (I rarely ever roll a point) I did not put that to start an argument about which are better or worst bets I just made a statement.
i agree about the middle of the table....only time i play anything there is on the hardways...and only if the shooter is on an extended roll and i'm making money..or...sometimes a shooter is simply throwing hard numbers..that happens too
most wrong way (don't) players pass the dice...
not arguing...but you did say that the field was not the worst bet...think you said hardly the worst bet....dollar for dollar...i believe it is...that's all
most wrong way (don't) players pass the dice...
not arguing...but you did say that the field was not the worst bet...think you said hardly the worst bet....dollar for dollar...i believe it is...that's all
fhmesq44 said:
Yes, these heavy favs win more often than not. That is why you have to risk something like 250 to win 100. In order for this system to be profitable in the long run, books must undervalue heavy favoriates for *some* reason.
I can think of one school of thought why this system *could* be successful. It is possible that people like to bet on heavy underdogs +200 or more, thereby driving down the line for heavy favoriates. Two things to be considered here, imo. First, I've always thought people like to bet on favoraites. I am not sure if this applies to "heavy" favoriates, but in general, people like to lay the juice on favs thinking that the favoriate team *has* to win. Second, juice become more of a problem in these games. Whereas in most books, you can find 7 cent or 10 cent lines in evenly matched teams, in trying to bet heavy favoriates, you always find the 20 cent juice.
In ANY CASE, doubling your bet after each loss is a bad bankroll management. Otherwise, it is possible that public likes to bet on heavy dogs, so your system *could* work.
Monday 4-24
cubs win cubs win
ytd: 12-1 +1300
I know I will have to lose a game sooner or later. Some of you can't wait to say I told you so. I said I will go to 50 plays and I will. Then I can say I told you so. 13 down 37 to go. I am sure I will get to 50 plays near the end of May. At what number of plays would you concede that I am onto something and it is not just luck? I am just following the numbers - no I think they will or they should kill them type of picking.
cubs win cubs win
ytd: 12-1 +1300
I know I will have to lose a game sooner or later. Some of you can't wait to say I told you so. I said I will go to 50 plays and I will. Then I can say I told you so. 13 down 37 to go. I am sure I will get to 50 plays near the end of May. At what number of plays would you concede that I am onto something and it is not just luck? I am just following the numbers - no I think they will or they should kill them type of picking.
frankster said:
frankster, read my post above. i already conceded the possibility of your system "working" but i am still skeptical.
you know you can do a little research on how the heavy favoriates under your definition have fared in the past.
ANYWAY, if you happen to lose a game, don't double your bet. doubling your bet has no effect on your system winning and losing. it can, however, ruin your bankroll if you happen to lose 5-6 games in a row.
frankster -
Some may be trying to bash, others are not and trying to offer suggestions or warnings. I think you've thought this through for the most part. Variations of this type of system have been thought of and attempted by every gambler in the free world. Most people when they first get into sports betting have that same thought..."Why cant I just double up when I lose on a good team until they win?" I know thats not what you're doing, but you are doing a variation of it. Answer: Because every team in every sport goes on losing streaks, no matter how good or bad.
Indians lost 2 to the Royals. The White Sox, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, etc will all have cold streaks at some point this year. Some team will get swept right when you have doubled up on them. Your record will end up being 22-8, but you might be losing overall.
The closer we get to the middle of the season, the closer we get to having good teams have let ups, let downs, etc. The Cubs had one today vs. the Marlins but bailed themselves out in the end.
I think that 80% of the posters on this board have lost their ass at some point of their gambling careers doing something like this. It's almost like a requirement. I think that every game that passes that you win, you should consider stopping, or at least cutting units in half or something. We've all been in your shoes before.
If you have a method for selecting teams, and not just picking favorites blindly, this may have better success. Whatever your system is, I wish you the best with it, and you'll never hear an I told you so from me. Later.
Some may be trying to bash, others are not and trying to offer suggestions or warnings. I think you've thought this through for the most part. Variations of this type of system have been thought of and attempted by every gambler in the free world. Most people when they first get into sports betting have that same thought..."Why cant I just double up when I lose on a good team until they win?" I know thats not what you're doing, but you are doing a variation of it. Answer: Because every team in every sport goes on losing streaks, no matter how good or bad.
Indians lost 2 to the Royals. The White Sox, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, etc will all have cold streaks at some point this year. Some team will get swept right when you have doubled up on them. Your record will end up being 22-8, but you might be losing overall.
The closer we get to the middle of the season, the closer we get to having good teams have let ups, let downs, etc. The Cubs had one today vs. the Marlins but bailed themselves out in the end.
I think that 80% of the posters on this board have lost their ass at some point of their gambling careers doing something like this. It's almost like a requirement. I think that every game that passes that you win, you should consider stopping, or at least cutting units in half or something. We've all been in your shoes before.
If you have a method for selecting teams, and not just picking favorites blindly, this may have better success. Whatever your system is, I wish you the best with it, and you'll never hear an I told you so from me. Later.
