Has to be very hard for Yankee fans.......

[barman]

That's an impressive list.

My statement that 14 teams have made the WS (with 12 NOT being the NYY or BOS) during past 11 years.

MLB needs more financially assertive owners. I'm hoping - based on past 18 months of front office performance - that the TB DRays may be one such team during coming decade.

 

[Wynn]

That's an impressive list.

My statement that 14 teams have made the WS (with 12 NOT being the NYY or BOS) during past 11 years.

MLB needs more financially assertive owners. I'm hoping - based on past 18 months of front office performance - that the TB DRays may be one such team during coming decade.

If by "financially assertive" you mean committed to a salary cap and a more equitable revenue sharing system, then I totally agree.

The problem is that the MLB Players Union is too powerful and will not allow this to happen.

Although the NHL owners have failed miserably to market their product after the lock-out, the economic basis for doing it was sound. The MLBPA will never permit this to happen for professional baseball.

 

[Fishhead]

You are so uninformed, it hurts

Tell me how..........I still haven't heard a Yankee fan come forward and talk sensible about this. They make comments like yours or proceed to bash me for bringing it up.

Granted, the Red Sox players should be more in tune with their fans since they have won two titles recently...........but what I'm saying is that the players are much more easily to like on the Red Sox for Bosox fans than the majority of the current Yankee roster are to their fans.

As just ONE example in this regard............Wakefield vs. Mussina.

How parts of this thread turned into a duo bashing of the RedSox/Yanks by other fans is beyond me..........but the crying by these fans is childish.

 

[Fishhead]

Tell me how..........I still haven't heard a Yankee fan come forward and talk sensible about this. They make comments like yours or proceed to bash me for bringing it up.

Granted, the Red Sox players should be more in tune with their fans since they have won two titles recently...........but what I'm saying is that the players are much more easily to like on the Red Sox for Bosox fans than the majority of the current Yankee roster are to their fans.

As just ONE example in this regard............Wakefield vs. Mussina.

How parts of this thread turned into a duo bashing of the RedSox/Yanks by other fans is beyond me..........but the crying by these fans is childish.

By the way, look closely in the stands at the next Yankee/Red Sox game in Yankee Staduim........their fans are very angry and frustrated. You can see it in their faces and their actions. They are quite a bunch.

 

[Wynn]

How parts of this thread turned into a duo bashing of the RedSox/Yanks by other fans is beyond me..........but the crying by these fans is childish.

Sorry you feel comments about high payroll baseball teams are childish, Fish, but when your title of the thread is "Has to be very hard for Yankee fans.......", it's reasonable to expect non-Yankee/RedSox fans to comment.

A lot of small market team fans have had it a lot tougher and feel abused by MLB's biased and unfair system. The fact that the Yankees are at a slight pitching disadvantage to the Red Sox in April 2008 seems trivial and elitist to them.

 

[Fishhead]

Sorry you feel comments about high payroll baseball teams are childish, Fish, but when your title of the thread is "Has to be very hard for Yankee fans.......", it's reasonable to expect non-Yankee/RedSox fans to comment.

A lot of small market team fans have had it a lot tougher and feel abused by MLB's biased and unfair system. The fact that the Yankees are at a slight pitching disadvantage to the Red Sox in April 2008 seems trivial and elitist to them.

What teams feel "abused"?

Name your top ten "abused" teams if you could please.

Thanks

 

[Fishhead]

What teams feel "abused"?

Name your top ten "abused" teams if you could please.

Thanks

After that(and please list your top ten first), explain to me how the Yanks and Red Sox became two teams that are not "abused" franchises.

Again, thanks.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle, but if the Red Sox never came back against the Yankees during that magical year, then the rivalry would not be as great as it is...I enjoy Red Sox/Yankee banter.....

 

[LENBO]

....these days dealing with the Red Sox dominance.

The Red Sox fan almost enjoyed playing second fiddle to the Yankees for nearly 90 years, but it seems that the last 4 years your typical Yankee fan is really, really hurting with the recent success of the Red Sox combined with their teams inability to claim a title.

I see it when I attend Yankees games here in Tampa, the jeolosy for the Red Sox is so obvious.

At this time, the Red Sox are a LOT more likable bunch as a whole to their fans than the Yankees are to theirs...........they love Jeter, Posada, Riveria, but other than a few others, they have a real hard time relating to their team in my opinion.

Yankee fan would love to have a young Youk, Pedroia, Elsbury, or Papellbon. I guess Chamberlain can possibly feel that role in time.

Not my intent to bash the Yankees or their fans with this thread.......just making what appears to be an obvious observation. Would love to hear a Yankees fans reply to this in an unbiased way as possible, which I know is tough to do. I also think Theo is much more respected than Cashman by their teams respective fans.

What would the Yankees do with Pedroia and Elsbury when they have Cano and Cabrera?

Papelbon and Okajima are great but we have Chamberlain and Rivera.

There is not much difference in the talent level on these teams.

What makes you think Yankee fans have a hard time relating to this team?

If anything I think most fans are happy we have not traded away our farm system and like the young talent on the team.

 

[festeringZit]

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle, but if the Red Sox never came back against the Yankees during that magical year, then the rivalry would not be as great as it is...I enjoy Red Sox/Yankee banter.....

I've enjoyed watching A-Rod the last three post-seasons, he has more
than twice as many strike-outs as hits.

7 for 44
only 2 extra-base hits
1 RBI
.159
15 Strikeouts


He may be a great player during the regular season, but post-season
he's the biggest choker out there.

 

[Fishhead]

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle, but if the Red Sox never came back against the Yankees during that magical year, then the rivalry would not be as great as it is...I enjoy Red Sox/Yankee banter.....

::howdy:

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

I've enjoyed watching A-Rod the last three post-seasons, he has more
than twice as many strike-outs as hits.

7 for 44
only 2 extra-base hits
1 RBI
.159
15 Strikeouts


He may be a great player during the regular season, but post-season
he's the biggest choker out there.

We have been through this before...A-Rod gets them to the playoffs...he is a future Hall of Famer and the future HR King...he can be on my team an:toast:ytime...

 

[festeringZit]

We have been through this before...A-Rod gets them to the playoffs...he is a future Hall of Famer and the future HR King...he can be on my team an:toast:ytime...

I agree VD, but you have to admit his performance drop in the
post season the last 3 yrs has been astounding.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

I agree, but many players step up or do not respond to the pressures of play-offs in every sport...pitching most of the time dominates during baseball post season....

 

[Mr.Smith]

Red Sox fans are known to be the most intelligent and best looking in all of baseball. Yankee fans smell like rotten mushrooms. Its uncanny. If you are a Yankees fan and just said "I don't smell like rotten mushrooms!" I'd say you are just used to it.

 

[Wynn]

What teams feel "abused"?

Name your top ten "abused" teams if you could please.

Thanks

Come on, Fish. You know better. The differential in local cable revenues received by teams like the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, White Sox, Cubs, Dodgers and Angels versus teams like the A's, Royals, Reds, Pirates, Twins, Brewers, Rays and Marlins is obscene. It far exceeds any offset from an impotent luxury tax.

Teams with larger cable market revenues and higher per capita income (i.e. higher ticket prices) continue to buy-up talent from smaller markets as salaries escalate. And if a high-priced player becomes a bust, they just go back and dip into the small market "minor league" teams to buy another one.

If that's not abusing small market franchises, then what is?

 

[BadCo]

Yeah Oakland is the farm for great pitchers.

 

[Fishhead]

The last I looked there were six divisions in baseball............

 

[Wynn]

The last I looked there were six divisions in baseball............

And there are eight divisions in the NFL but they still have a salary cap and revenue sharing so teams in small markets like the Packers, Jaguars and Colts can compete every year.

 

[Fishhead]

And there are eight divisions in the NFL but they still have a salary cap and revenue sharing so teams in small markets like the Packers, Jaguars and Colts can compete every year.

It comes down to who has the best organizations........get over it.

By the way, we have reached a point that it will be a successful season for the Yankees if the Red Sox don't win the World Series..............this is because most fans and players of the NYY know they can't realistically win the title, so the next best thing is to hopefully not have the Bosox win it.