Why do you assume he wanted to kill himself efficiently?
Any evidence of that?
People do irrational things all the time...its a part of being human.
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Very cryptic...what do you mean?
Very cryptic...what do you mean?
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Like alot of people's 1st suicide attempt is swallowing the entire contents of an aspirin bottle?
Like alot of people's 1st suicide attempt is swallowing the entire contents of an aspirin bottle?
Here's some methods we can all enjoy, accompanied by a not too bad blues soundtrack
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Do we know this is not the case?
Do we want to pretend people committing suicide are rational?
Do we know this was his first attempt?
I seem to remember hearing about many a failed suicide attempt myself, thinking, boy that's a weird way to off oneself. Maybe every failed suicide attempt was really a whack job gone bad.
TR provides some ranking of scientists without any citation. Anyone else a tad bit skeptical?
Who compiled that list? Who ranked them? Using his very own 9/11 thinking, if even one item listed is questionable, the whole thing is worthless anyway.
:lol:
I guess TR doesn't know we already have all the biological weapons we already need.
Who compiled that list? Who ranked them? Using his very own 9/11 thinking, if even one item listed is questionable, the whole thing is worthless anyway.
:lol:
I guess TR doesn't know we already have all the biological weapons we already need.
Who on god green earth hand writes court documents? This is the "restraining order" of the therapist hand written. If that isn't the first suspicious piece of evidence I don't know what is? Let's take a poll of who has ever filled out court papers by hand and those who hired a lawyer to do it for them. Bottom line is the "therapist" was paid to fill this out prior to putting the "hit" on Dr. Bruce Ivins. This aided in the pre-demonizing process to garner support he was a "bad guy" and make the story more believable.
Why did she not provide her address? What school did she graduate from? Will she be willing to testify before a senate hearing on national TV publicized that he was in fact stalking her and she did not file a false report in a court of law? Doesn't anyone find this strange this report was filed 3 days before his "reported" death?
the petitioner submitting a complaint can very likely be hand written. I love how people simply inaccurately dismiss mitigating evidence, how convenient. It's wiser to address such evidence and explain why it doesn't disprove your argument.
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Codeine is one of the most effective pain killers known to man...so much for holding his stomach all weekend.
It would in fact be a very good way to do it.
So much for that conspiracy theory.
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Michael Scott responds:
Provide your source. "Mr_MJ" is not a viable source. Just cause "Mr_MJ" says so is not fact. We are using opinions and thieories in this thread and backing them up with facts. Your post shall be discredited from this argument until you provide a source that states Tylenol taken with Codeine does not cause stomach pain.
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Mr Scott, did you yourself provide a viable source to substantiate your accusations?
No, you did not, making this response of yours priceless.
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by MR_MJ
Codeine is one of the most effective pain killers known to man...so much for holding his stomach all weekend.
It would in fact be a very good way to do it.
So much for that conspiracy theory.
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Michael Scott responds:
Provide your source. "Mr_MJ" is not a viable source. Just cause "Mr_MJ" says so is not fact. We are using opinions and thieories in this thread and backing them up with facts. Your post shall be discredited from this argument until you provide a source that states Tylenol taken with Codeine does not cause stomach pain.
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Mr Scott, did you yourself provide a viable source to substantiate your accusations?
No, you did not, making this response of yours priceless.
random observation interpret it how you will
the number viewing our poly forum is much higher than usual over 200 (typically under 100).....as well as the viewership of this thread much higher than a typical thread
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keep up the good work michael scott
the number viewing our poly forum is much higher than usual over 200 (typically under 100).....as well as the viewership of this thread much higher than a typical thread
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keep up the good work michael scott
People kill themselves efficiently on a frequent basis. Certainly he was in a distresses state of mind. We will never know for certain what he was like at that time.
I'm just saying that this man's life work dealt with dangerous substances. It seems odd to me for him to choose this way of suicide when he knew so many other efficient ways. People who are under suspicion wouldn't choose a method of suicide that would take days.
The question is still debatable "why" The CIA killed him. But the short answer to that is that The CIA needed a "fall guy" in order to cover up their dirty deeds of originally mailing out the anthrax letters themselves. Now that Dr. Bruce Ivins is dead, he can be blamed for it.
Even the families of those who died from the anthrax letters were saying as of last night that they are still not convinced Dr. Bruce Ivins is the guy and that the want more answers. The government responded to that by saying as early as this Wednesday, they should have a "final report" with the evidence linking Dr. Bruce Ivins to the anthrax scare letters case.
"Final Report" on Wednesday by the government basically means this... Let's wait an see what are the most suspicious arguments being made on the internet and come up with a fake story to prove them incorrect.
There was no "breaking news" for nearly one week that links Dr. Bruce Ivins to the crime, whne the internet readers call bullshit, CNN conveniently Sunday night releases the article that "DNA has linked the case to Dr. Ivins". Americans are convinve that if the media says DNA, it is the truth. DNA evidence is nearly perfect for proof, but the news story was a fabricated story by the government to "hush americans". The last thing Americans need is for the people to find of that their own government was mailing anthrax in a time of a terrible economy, high unemplyment rate, etc. The truthful news that the CIA in fact did kill Dr. Ivins would be devasting for Americans to swallow.
Ask Steven Hatfill how he thinks Dr. Bruce Ivins felt? It physically drains a person. You are being accused of a crime you didn't commit, you fear for you life because you know what happens to scientists when the CIA thinks they are a threat. The guy probably was very stressed out, it would not surprise me about that. But he had no reason do to this, nor could do it.
He did research on vaccines, not the actual weapons. The government wants you to buy into the fact he was had the motive of "personal financial gain" but I remember what I was feeling like during the week after Sept 11th, I was scared for my country and my life, after all some terrorists crashed a plane into the World Trade Centers. All these things the government wants you to believe is what was oing through his head and then he probably finally realized he would be the "fall guy" as were amny previous scientists who worked for the government, it was just a matter of time. Imagine waiting for an enemy, unknown what he/she or it looks like and counting down the days to your own death. It would not be a pretty fun life.
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Codeine is one of the most effective pain killers known to man...so much for holding his stomach all weekend.
It would in fact be a very good way to do it.
So much for that conspiracy theory.
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Michael Scott responds:
Provide your source. "Mr_MJ" is not a viable source. Just cause "Mr_MJ" says so is not fact. We are using opinions and thieories in this thread and backing them up with facts. Your post shall be discredited from this argument until you provide a source that states Tylenol taken with Codeine does not cause stomach pain.
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Mr Scott, did you yourself provide a viable source to substantiate your accusations?
No, you did not, making this response of yours priceless.
Willie, I don't want to get off topic, but no I have not provided a source in every thread. The point is, lets all stay on topic. I want this to stay clean and organized so people can understand the information and add to it, or argue against my theories.
Thank you.
