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Will be the starting rotation when everyone gets healthy.

With the run support, you're going to tell me they're not going to make the playoffs?

Hahaha.

They're about to use 10 different pitchers in their first 30 games a record because of injuries. Yet they're still only 5.5 games out and it's still the start of May...

I think they're in good shape.

They've also gone 5/6 without A-ROD on a HR tear and Damon injured, so those saying they can't win without A-ROD's HR pace don't know what they're talking about.
 

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The Yankees are just like bad gamblers. They continue to chase. Yes, they have the money to spend, but doesn't make it a wise investment.

Players are getting older, farm system has been emptied out (hughes not withstanding), they are desperate, but a starter won't matter when your relief pitchers will have thrown more pitches than CY Young in a season!

They need to get rid of Cashman and stop wasting $20M on Clemens. Even with him back, assuming they win every start, they still have to many holes in their rotation.

No bullpen in baseball can be effective when your starters are averaging 5 innings per game.


Come mid June, barring injuries this looks like a pretty solid 5.

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The Yankees are just like bad gamblers. They continue to chase. Yes, they have the money to spend, but doesn't make it a wise investment.

Players are getting older, farm system has been emptied out (hughes not withstanding), they are desperate, but a starter won't matter when your relief pitchers will have thrown more pitches than CY Young in a season!

They need to get rid of Cashman and stop wasting $20M on Clemens. Even with him back, assuming they win every start, they still have to many holes in their rotation.


They're "all in" at this point. What else can they do? Just rot with the big contracts they have on the team right now and call it a season? At least getting a starter means they could put one of these guys back into the bullpen.
 

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The Yankees are just like bad gamblers. They continue to chase. Yes, they have the money to spend, but doesn't make it a wise investment.

Players are getting older, farm system has been emptied out (hughes not withstanding), they are desperate, but a starter won't matter when your relief pitchers will have thrown more pitches than CY Young in a season!

They need to get rid of Cashman and stop wasting $20M on Clemens. Even with him back, assuming they win every start, they still have to many holes in their rotation.

Excellent points. Plus, he's a year older, will be pitching about 3/4 of a season instead of 1/2 in the DH-ridden AL-and he didn't finish all that well last year. I wonder if he'll get to stay home on non-pitching games and
"watch his kids grow up." Guess they're all adults now, huh?
 
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They're "all in" at this point. What else can they do? Just rot with the big contracts they have on the team right now and call it a season? At least getting a starter means they could put one of these guys back into the bullpen.

Amen!
 

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the main thing for them right now is to keep the Devil Rays in sight. you dont want to fall to far behind Tampa :missingte
 

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Players are getting older, farm system has been emptied out (hughes not withstanding), they are desperate, but a starter won't matter when your relief pitchers will have thrown more pitches than CY Young in a season!

The yankees farm system isn't emptied out. They were ranked fourth in the league by baseball america last I checked. Cashman's done a good job of holding onto prospects lately.
 
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IMO this is not good for baseball. It just brings out more evidence that economically speaking MLB is unfair. I just cant stand what is going on with this episode. Honestly, does anyone think that this is good for the game. If you do you are blind.
 

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IMO this is not good for baseball. It just brings out more evidence that economically speaking MLB is unfair. I just cant stand what is going on with this episode. Honestly, does anyone think that this is good for the game. If you do you are blind.


The Yankees are the reason players like Gil Meche get $55M. Zito, Zambrano, players like that are going to get paid, but would never ever go to KC, Milwaukee or dead ends like that. Team like Cubs, Yanks over pay, over inflate the market and then teams like KC try and show their fan base they are spending money. Only problem is, assuming that gil meche were a true # 1 top 10 pitcher, they don't have money to spend on other players. The royals are better of not spending $11M per year on a player like this.

If you really want to improve the economics of baseball and all sports. Turn all pro leagues into city owned franchises like Green Bay. No threats of moving or team wanting a new stadium every 5 minutes. Also, baseball needs to become like football, get rid of guaranteed contracts.

Remember some of these horrible deals:
Rockies
Hampton,
Neagle,
Helton- great player, but not enough talent around him and the Rockies get like 20K per game to show up.
2 Favorite contracts of all-time
Darren Dreifort $55M for an under pitcher .500
Chan Ho Park 5 years $60M for a NL pitcher who walked 4 per 9 innings.

As long as stupid fans continue to over pay for games and as long as the idiots at NBC, CBS and FOX overpay the Yanks, Sox, Dodgers will be able to pay and KC get ready to look for their season to end around Memorial Day
 

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fuck clemens. after this year, he'll do the same "i'm probably going to retire"
bullshit again. only way he steps away from the game is if his face gets broken in pieces by a line drive or mlb finds a way to test for HGH.
 

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You probably thought that last May and the year before that.

Well, he DIDN'T pitch in last year's playoffs-partly because the team folded down the stretch and he lost on the penultimate game of the year to elimimate them-and he didn't pitch well in the playoffs the two previous years when he DID get in, so what's your point?
 

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Well, he DIDN'T pitch in last year's playoffs-partly because the team folded down the stretch and he lost on the penultimate game of the year to elimimate them-and he didn't pitch well in the playoffs the two previous years when he DID get in, so what's your point?


What ? Someone made a reference that Clemens signed with the Yankees because he didn't want to pitch in the playoffs this year meaning that poster didn't think the Yankees were going to make the playoffs.
 

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I'm still waiting for the "it's not about the money" quote.
 

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I'm really tired of this guy, and I hope his mercenary act ends badly for him. MLB should make a rule about guys who do this.
 
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I'm really tired of this guy, and I hope his mercenary act ends badly for him. MLB should make a rule about guys who do this.

I hear ya Gil, why cant he just go away? Is he a compulsive gambler that needs to re-load his funds every Summer....somethings fishy. I am fed up with his soap opera.
 

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