Bring on the yankees!!!!!!!

[letsgobirds]

i'm obviously also speaking from a phillies fan standpoint but i think this series is gonna be a good one.both teams have stacked lineups, and both play in the same type stadium. as zeke said, i'd rather go to ny and play the yanks in yankee stadium than have to go out to LA, where hitting hr's would become much different. teams match up pretty evenly i think, lee been just as lights out as CC, player by player it'd come out pretty close with each team having a better person at certain spots.


won't make a prediction because i think i still underestimate how good the phils actually are and playing in the bronx in october does scare me.

 

[anpyanks]

3.2 inn 5 runs.... Vic did hit the bomb..... Phils didn't face himagain...... Just one playoff game brew crew couldn't get him a game 5

yeah zeke and im by no means saying sabathia will not get roped but u cant compare last year when he basically started on three days rest almost every game in september just to get milwaukee to the playoffs... the guy was dead, he had nothing in his tank left for the playoffs...

 

[SOUTHPHILLYBUDDA6]

hey wait a sec
i may have jump the gun along with the rest of the world on bring on the yankees
i may have to post a thread
bring on the angels soon....

I mean the yankees are a team that was up 3-0 vs the redsox and lost.....

haha

 

[HTFDC102]

Do u research .....last year sabathia was a cy young candidate in half a season...... Philly owned him twice I think..... I could be wrong but I think he was the one Vic hit the granny off.... He's got history with this phillies team and it ain't good..... Either place he faces them is a launching pad..... People that wanna find a reason to back him and yanks have plenty of goods stat they can find to support it - he's a great pitcher


But please don't expect me or phillie backers to be afraid of the big bad wolf- we already played rockem sockem robots with him and won. Time for hungry hungry hippos!

And the Angels also beat CC 2 times in the regular season this year and look what CC has done to them in the playoffs...forget last year he is in NY now not Milwaukee

 

[HTFDC102]

Either way these teams are close to evenly matched....u simply don't watch or aren't paying attention if u think the yanks are a lock.

Evenly matched? Not quite

Tex vs Howard= I'll take Tex by far better glove, switch hitter
Cano vs Utley= I'll say Utley better glove(sometimes) offense slightly better
Jeter vs Rollins= jeter do I even need to explain?
a-rod vs Feliz= a-rod...another no brainer
Posada vs ruiz= go with a push on this one they both have their moments
Swish vs werth= another close one I'll give to werth
melky vs victrino= close one have to push this also
Damon vs Ibanez= goes to raul he covers more ground but damon has post
season experience like no other philly outfielder and a
comparable bat for power..close one here too.
Bullpen= by far NY...hughes, joba, coke, marte, robertson, aceves, gaudin,
and of course...MO
DH= Don't care who philly puts there NY gets it
Starters= NY...cc and lee match up well but thats it

 

[TempleU22]

lol, this has to be a biased breakdown. Werth barely over Swisher? Tex by far?

lol.

 

[HTFDC102]

Biased? Swisher .250 ,29 hr, 82 rbi 371 obp 498 slugging .980 fpct

werth .268 36 hr 99 rbi 373 obp 506 slugging and struckout 156 times .988 fpct

so as stated werth is slightly better and remember where he hits in the line up compaired to swish...hitting behind howard gave him many more hitting situations then swish had hitting 7th behind Cano.

 

[HTFDC102]

And if I had a choice to have either tex or howard standing on 1st base for my team it no doubt would be tex, this guy is all over the field on "D" hits 290-300+ every year with 30-40 hrs and 100+ rbi switch hitter gold glover only 4 errors all year and is one of the smartest players in mlb.

howard hits hr and knocks in runs but strikes out way to much (878 times in 2687 career ab) and can't compair to tex on defense with14 errors.

 

[Dafinch]

First of all, as has been pointed out, the Skanks aren't even IN yet, and many players on this team were involved with the Biggest Choke in the History of Sports, so don't kid yourself that the "Jaws" music isn't getting louder and louder in their minds. Secondly, let the Skanks keep pitching Chunky Chocolate on three days rest, hopefully for a Game Seven tomorrow: the longer you play with fire, the more likely you are to get burned, which he showed last year, and, which helps to explain why no pitcher has won 3 games in any postgame series in over 40 years (and, interestingly, the last time it was done, it was ANOTHER fat slob, Mickey Lolich of the Tigers). But even if the Skanks get in, I'll take Lee-the guy who actually WON the Cy Young last year between the two of them-over Fat Boy, especially since CC's history indicates that a postseason disaster is long overdue-as is A-Fraud. Lidge may not be lights out, but he, with Rivera, is the only closer who has been perfect in the postseason: 3 saves, a win, and a zero ERA. When he's on, as last year's 48 for 48 stint showed, there's none better. I am NOT, to put it mildly, impressed with the Skanks middle relief, and what's so special about Burnett and Pettitte? The Phillies are gonna run wild on that space cadet Posado (not known for his defense when he's not forgetting how many outs there are and wandering off bases to be tagged out), and I'll take the role players for Philly over Skanks like...Swishy Swisher, he of the same number of RBI this series as a dead man. No NL team has repeated since the Reds a third of a century ago. It's TIME, bitches!<<(<)<:lol:

 

[TheHungerForMore]

Yankees will have fun with that Phillies bullpen.

 

[HTFDC102]

So you say lee because he won the cy young last year over cc? No shit he was traded to the nl at the deadline. If your not impressed with how the ny pen has been all season then I won't even need to ask what you think of phillys pathitic relief... as far as running all over the bases it hasn't been a factor for LA against them because pettite is the best in the mlb all time at holding runners and cc hasn't allowed many runners on base and is decent at holding them not the best but good.

 

[Dafinch]

Yankees will have fun with that Phillies bullpen.

Funny, I was going to say the same thing about the Phillies vs. the Skanks bullpen: they've fucked with Joba the Hutt's head so much, he's a shadow of what he was a few years ago; the 7th inning SCREAMED for Coke, especially after Always Jumpy Burnett allowed the leadoff guy on vs. the Angels, but Giradi didn't bring him in, what does THAT tell you? The 2nd highest paid reliever on the Skanks is Marte, a 34 year old whose ERA begins with a nine, lol, be still my heart! Finally, Giradi reluctantly brought in Hughes, whom the announcers gush over for some reason, and when he did, we saw WHY he was reluctant. Yeah, we'll see who has fun with WHOSE bullpen, and, like I said, get IN first, you're no lock to do THAT.

 

[HTFDC102]

so hughes has one bad inning in 6 games and he's done for won't ever be effective again? You are something else although right about marte he sucks and I hate when they bring him in. Just remember last year is past just ask oil can lidge cuz I don't care what you've done for me in the past its what your doing now and there isn't a better line up, starters or pen in the playoffs then nyy right now.

 

[Dafinch]

so hughes has one bad inning in 6 games and he's done for won't ever be effective again? You are something else although right about marte he sucks and I hate when they bring him in. Just remember last year is past just ask oil can lidge cuz I don't care what you've done for me in the past its what your doing now and there isn't a better line up, starters or pen in the playoffs then nyy right now.

I didn't say Hughes won't ever be effective again, but they talk about him like he's the best setup man in the majors, and he ain't. You contradicted yourself, you say you don't care what somebody has done in the past, it's what they're doing NOW, but apparently that doesn't apply when Lidge has had a shit year, which he has, but is pitching well again in the post season. You can't do any better than saving or winning every game you appear in, with a zero ERA, and that's what he has done RIGHT NOW-just like last postseason. Besides, have you ever heard of the saying, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it? You can ignore 8 years of Skankee choking, but I'm not. Also, I ask again, what's so special about Burnett and Pettite, you carefully avoided answering that.

 

[zeketaylor]

Biased? Swisher .250 ,29 hr, 82 rbi 371 obp 498 slugging .980 fpct

werth .268 36 hr 99 rbi 373 obp 506 slugging and struckout 156 times .988 fpct

so as stated werth is slightly better and remember where he hits in the line up compaired to swish...hitting behind howard gave him many more hitting situations then swish had hitting 7th behind Cano.

ok..then add in the intangibles of post season performance.....all i can tell u is the common sense meter says "every yankee fan i know blames swish for the last loss".....


phils fans are loving werth, and even non-phils and non-baseball fans talkin to me about how good he and victorino are.

 

[zeketaylor]

And if I had a choice to have either tex or howard standing on 1st base for my team it no doubt would be tex, this guy is all over the field on "D" hits 290-300+ every year with 30-40 hrs and 100+ rbi switch hitter gold glover only 4 errors all year and is one of the smartest players in mlb.

howard hits hr and knocks in runs but strikes out way to much (878 times in 2687 career ab) and can't compair to tex on defense with14 errors.

his career strikeout numbers are embarassing, no debating that....it will take a ferw years for this average to come down.....take a look at the post season this year, and the improvements he has made...he does not strike out at this rate anymore...but you can make the average over the past few years look compelling....but anyone who is watching knows he doesnt k nearly as often, and u failed tomention his sick rbi streak and clutch hitting, without even hitting homers......

 

[zeketaylor]

So you say lee because he won the cy young last year over cc? No shit he was traded to the nl at the deadline. If your not impressed with how the ny pen has been all season then I won't even need to ask what you think of phillys pathitic relief... as far as running all over the bases it hasn't been a factor for LA against them because pettite is the best in the mlb all time at holding runners and cc hasn't allowed many runners on base and is decent at holding them not the best but good.

cc walked 4 when he faced phils in post season last year, in route to a 3.2 inn exit after giving up a bunch of hits, 5 runs, 4 walks, and a homer....

that was one year ago, and easily relevant....werth wasnt playing then every game, and they got better with ibanez, and ruiz is ten times the hitter he was at that point


he didnt win the cy young in the AL cause he was terrible in the AL before switching leagues, where he was an impressive 11-2 for Milw in half a season.

 

[HTFDC102]

I didn't say Hughes won't ever be effective again, but they talk about him like he's the best setup man in the majors, and he ain't. You contradicted yourself, you say you don't care what somebody has done in the past, it's what they're doing NOW, but apparently that doesn't apply when Lidge has had a shit year, which he has, but is pitching well again in the post season. You can't do any better than saving or winning every game you appear in, with a zero ERA, and that's what he has done RIGHT NOW-just like last postseason. Besides, have you ever heard of the saying, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it? You can ignore 8 years of Skankee choking, but I'm not. Also, I ask again, what's so special about Burnett and Pettite, you carefully avoided answering that.

What so special about pettite... 2 games 2.84 era this year post season and ok I won't ignore history...overall he is the pitcher with the most starts and wins in the post season ever that enough history for you? and burnett has been good... better than philly pitching with the exception of lee as far as lidge for gods sake they put him in games with leads even he couldn't blow or only to get 1 out with no one on and a couple run lead. LA was swingin at his junk, just make him throw strikes like teams did all season and you saw how good he did... 0-8 11 blown saves.

 

[Dafinch]

What so special about pettite... 2 games 2.84 era this year post season and ok I won't ignore history...overall he is the pitcher with the most starts and wins in the post season ever that enough history for you? and burnett has been good... better than philly pitching with the exception of lee as far as lidge for gods sake they put him in games with leads even he couldn't blow or only to get 1 out with no one on and a couple run lead. LA was swingin at his junk, just make him throw strikes like teams did all season and you saw how good he did... 0-8 11 blown saves.

Ahh, so, Werth and Swisher are almost equal, Burnett "...has been good," and Lidge, who has given up NOTHING vs. the Dodgers and Rockies (who had the best record virtually in all of baseball once they switched managers) isn't doing anything special. I supposed Hughes, who WAS given an easy hold situation vs. the Angels but got rocked, was just unlucky, right? Yeah, anything you say, Mr. Delusional...:lol:

 

[tuffluck]

we are coming!