Belmont Thoughts and Plays

[SqueezetheJuice]

Can anyone tell me why the sites for the Belmont Stakes are lack-luster at best as compared to the Kentucky Derby and Preakness websites? They are not even updated.

Is there any authoritative website anyone would recommend for the Belmont above all others?

 

[kbrod66]

friday hollywood. race 7. #3 old time hockey 5/2........ quinella 3-2

 

[gremlinlad]

Can anyone tell me why the sites for the Belmont Stakes are lack-luster at best as compared to the Kentucky Derby and Preakness websites? They are not even updated.

Is there any authoritative website anyone would recommend for the Belmont above all others?

Google the 144th Belmont Stakes or 2012 Belmont Stakes and choose your "poison"...........personally, I find my reading at www.bloodhorse.com or
http://bleacherreport.com then put 2012 Belmont Stakes into their search box.

Right now it looks like a nine or ten horse field....which is great size for the Belmont track and nobody should come up with the excuse "they had a traffic problem that caused a bad trip"..

 

[gremlinlad]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1203472-belmont-stakes-odds-breaking-down-biggest-threats-to-ill-have-another?search_query=2012%20Belmont%20stakes

 

[ul_4]

One thing to note....lots of people want to discount Union Rags because of the Derby run. IMO, the Derby Run proves to me that he may win this race (and will be the horse I am betting) Look at the trip he has, the amount of times he has to pull up, and then his closing run. Granted he was still well behind but if that horse had been sitting in stalking position (5-9) in the Derby, he looks to me as if he would have stomped the field. I see his Derby run as one of the worst trips any horse has ever had yet he was storming at the end after exerting so much effort.

Union Rags - Winner

IHA/Dullahan for 2nd/3rd - All chalk in this race

 

[gremlinlad]

IMO Union Rags is a follower and not a go getter......it seems that he finds trouble,,,,traffic problems in every race he is in lately.....the horse is talented, granted that....but his desire to win has taken a back seat. Maybe with J V on him for the belmont...a chance...but a slim chance at that.


J V gives up on a horse if the horse cannot get going.....so leaving the starting gate will be the race....if he cannot leave, Union Rags will be an also ran....

 

[gremlinlad]

Belmont Stakes contenders final workout plans.




http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/70223/final-workout-plans-for-belmont-contenders

 

[gremlinlad]

IMO Union Rags is a follower and not a go getter......it seems that he finds trouble,,,,traffic problems in every race he is in lately.....the horse is talented, granted that....but his desire to win has taken a back seat. Maybe with J V on him for the belmont...a chance...but a slim chance at that.


J V gives up on a horse if the horse cannot get going.....so leaving the starting gate will be the race....if he cannot leave, Union Rags will be an also ran....

Still have ill feelings on what J V did to the betting public with Looking at Lucky.....then he just quits riding on Went The Day Well going down the Pimlico back stretch ...because he said the horse did not have anything left......HELLO (?)

 

[gremlinlad]

June 3, 2012...three days to go to see who will be in the 144th Belmont Stakes Detention Barn and eligible to compete in the race on June 9th.

From HRTV: Ken Mcpeek said Unstoppable U is "50-50" to run in Belmont. He wasn't pleased with his lead change this am. Decision will be made on Wed.

 

[gremlinlad]

Sunday June 3rd Belmont Stakes contenders work tab.......
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/70263/dullahan-leads-belmont-workers-on-june-3

 

[TomTom]

One thing to note....lots of people want to discount Union Rags because of the Derby run. IMO, the Derby Run proves to me that he may win this race (and will be the horse I am betting) Look at the trip he has, the amount of times he has to pull up, and then his closing run. Granted he was still well behind but if that horse had been sitting in stalking position (5-9) in the Derby, he looks to me as if he would have stomped the field. I see his Derby run as one of the worst trips any horse has ever had yet he was storming at the end after exerting so much effort.

Union Rags - Winner

IHA/Dullahan for 2nd/3rd - All chalk in this race

As of today, Sunday the 3rd, Union Rags is my key horse in Tri Wheels for 1st, 2nd and 3rd. ( that is if I win enough money between now and then to cover those wheels ) And I have a feeling that the payoffs will be huge due to I expect Optimizer to close a ton and catch a top 3 finish or hit 4th for the Super.

I would be Happy if we do have a Triple Crown winner though but this is New York and I feel as talented as
Mario Gutierrez may be, I feel he is in for a rude New York welcome from the likes of Johnny V, Javier etc....hell, even Rosie is bringing home some bombs here in NY lately.....


Mario in my opinion got two perfect trips in the Derby and the Preakness but I don't think he will get the same kind of trip 3 times in a row...actually I think the Belmont track will be a huge hurdle for him as well as for IHA who also has never raced at Belmont.

If Mario pulls it off with IHA I'll be in line to congratulate him and his connections but my money for now is on Union Rags as my key horse for a top 3 finish using ALLS with him.

And just imagine the payoffs in the exotics if IHA doesn't hit the board...just something to consider

 

[kbrod66]

hope u had something on this one...$8 winner.....$14 quin i think it was.

 

[kbrod66]

friday hollywood. race 7. #3 old time hockey 5/2........ quinella 3-2

this one

 

[kbrod66]

just seen a nice work out from dullahan on u tube.......5f .59....looks great..........ex bx iha/dullahan looks cold to me

 

[LEYKIS101]

Still have ill feelings on what J V did to the betting public with Looking at Lucky.....then he just quits riding on Went The Day Well going down the Pimlico back stretch ...because he said the horse did not have anything left......HELLO (?)

Good info you're posting in this thread, Gremlin Lad. Just curious what JV did to the betting public with Lookin at Lucky?

 

[elevenblack301]

As of today, Sunday the 3rd, Union Rags is my key horse in Tri Wheels for 1st, 2nd and 3rd. ( that is if I win enough money between now and then to cover those wheels ) And I have a feeling that the payoffs will be huge due to I expect Optimizer to close a ton and catch a top 3 finish or hit 4th for the Super.

I would be Happy if we do have a Triple Crown winner though but this is New York and I feel as talented as
Mario Gutierrez may be, I feel he is in for a rude New York welcome from the likes of Johnny V, Javier etc....hell, even Rosie is bringing home some bombs here in NY lately.....


Mario in my opinion got two perfect trips in the Derby and the Preakness but I don't think he will get the same kind of trip 3 times in a row...actually I think the Belmont track will be a huge hurdle for him as well as for IHA who also has never raced at Belmont.

If Mario pulls it off with IHA I'll be in line to congratulate him and his connections but my money for now is on Union Rags as my key horse for a top 3 finish using ALLS with him.

And just imagine the payoffs in the exotics if IHA doesn't hit the board...just something to consider

URags was my main play in the Derby also................ think he has a run in him, at least I hope so...................... thanks for the comments

 

[elevenblack301]

:think2: Well, it's Belmont week guys and gals............ will be posting some more numbers and such soon as we know who is in and who is out............

Still looking for that bomb that is going to surprise us all.....................

Be well and let's get this one....................


As always, many thanks to you all..............great comments , much appreciated !!!

 

[SqueezetheJuice]

No work for I'll Have Another before the Belmont?

Does this equal a fresher horse or a mistake?

 

[elevenblack301]

No work for I'll Have Another before the Belmont?

Does this equal a fresher horse or a mistake?

Squeeze,

I think it is a mistake, something doesn't make sense here................... I know I can't get off of the subject about the nasal strip, but I do believe that not having this piece of 'equipment' is going to affect his performance. He has worn a strip in every other of his starts.............. going to be interesting... looking forward to your plays , as always.....

 

[kbrod66]

they say horses are creatures of habit,maybe this nasal strip may be a problem if iha is used to having it,i wish a trainer could add into this and tell us what it really does to the horse.