"...we're protecting your sorry ass, stopping the spread of TERRORISM. That is unless you strive to blown up on a bus...."
Kinda like a couple of weeks ago in London?
I guess the people of London can stick a fork in that trendy neocon statement of "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here."
"See the NVA was an ARMY....wheres Al Queda ARMY?"
Tell that to the marines who get shot in the back by people wearing civilian clothing.....you still don't have a clue who means you harm over there, unless they're carrying a weapon, and yes, not all the dudes we fought in Vietnam had the stupidity to walk around in thier battle uniform...and yes, marines got shot in the back by people wearing civilian clothing in Vietnam also....
Doesn't really matter anyway, because you can't stay there forever at $177 million a day and the insurgents will keep shredding anything there with a pulse until we leave, and then put the homies through the woodchipper.
Cheers. :drink:
Kinda like a couple of weeks ago in London?
I guess the people of London can stick a fork in that trendy neocon statement of "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here."
"See the NVA was an ARMY....wheres Al Queda ARMY?"
Tell that to the marines who get shot in the back by people wearing civilian clothing.....you still don't have a clue who means you harm over there, unless they're carrying a weapon, and yes, not all the dudes we fought in Vietnam had the stupidity to walk around in thier battle uniform...and yes, marines got shot in the back by people wearing civilian clothing in Vietnam also....
Doesn't really matter anyway, because you can't stay there forever at $177 million a day and the insurgents will keep shredding anything there with a pulse until we leave, and then put the homies through the woodchipper.
Cheers. :drink:
Marco said:The neocons would debate this, they somehow think that they can waltz across Iraq, kill all the bad guys, and get democracy to take hold in that shithole.
It's only the grandkids future, just feed it into the shredder via the national credit card!
I think sometimes you guys say things thinking they will "become" tree.
We have had Debt bigger than this in the past, and everyone's grandkids are just fine.
There is ZERO evidence that supports your claim that National debt will fuck over our grandkids.
CAPN CRUNCH said:
This war was because World Wide intellignece Said Saddam had WMD's. We know he would use them as he had before, we know he hated the US as he even attempted to Kill a former President and fired on our planes at will.
The financial cost of a war has never been relevent. The cost of live is relevent. However, while it is tragic to lose any American lives 2000 is a number that is well below any prewar estimate.
"Ask the people in London"....??? In the USA ,with freedom of speech protected for everyone,do you hear Muslim leaders praising the terrorists ,preaching continuance of such acts while here? Not anymore.. as far as I can remember it hasnt happened anytime in recent history.Didnt we all hear about the radical Islamists in Britain...mosque leaders who spread hatred toward all infidels at any cost.Failure to stop this cold is a reason this happened IMO.I guarantee the open forum to recruit wouldbe killers will not be happening again.Dont you think if terrorists could attack here they would? I mean there is no better target than the good ol' USA.If these terrorists go unabated and the USA leaves it up the countries in the Middle East to deal with them on there own (and we all know what a fine job Pakistan and Saudi Arabia do) then the US is as good as hit.Dont be naive....9-11 changed alot in this country,unforunately some countries couldnt see that it could be a reality for them too.I bet things change in London really quick now.Of course I hope that another attack doesnt come....but if this war isnt fought now then the chances of it happening multiply exponentially.Lining up the Army on the Canandian/Mexico borders will not provide the same protection that killing,capturing and interrogating these shitbags produce.
To the socialists (Democrats)....nothing you post will change the fact that being proactive in the war against terror must include military operations.This war is just.
To the socialists (Democrats)....nothing you post will change the fact that being proactive in the war against terror must include military operations.This war is just.
"Couldn't the same thing be accomplished in Afghanistan?"
Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Saudi......probably a dozen or more if we wanted to invade other countries and turn the rest of the middle east into a du wasteland where the state bird is the suicide bomber and the state flower is the roadside bomb...
The neocons think planting the military in the middle east and drawing the insurgents in somehow makes us safer at home, when in fact the insurgents/terrorists don't all choose to run to Baghdad like a bug to a light bulb....some of them prefer the soft targets and London was exactly what was needed to wake these guys up to the reality that thier actions in Iraq aren't making anyone else safer......
As far as that babble about leaving it up to the middle east to deal with the terrorists.....I'm sure they'd just about as good of luck finding the next terrorist, just like the effort we had finding McVeigh before he took half a city block out in Oklahoma City.....great job of police work there dudes...but then again realists know they blend in with the common public and the middle east has about as good a chance recognizing terrorists as they would identifying people with the early signs of aids walking down the sidewalk.
"...then the US is just as good as hit. Don't be naive.."
The US will get hit again, only a matter of time. I'd rather see our military over here making an actual difference and being a visible, viable deterrent than over there shooting up Iraq and killing a few homies over there who wouldn't bother to leave the country to attack us and are fighting us because of the occupation. I'd worry about the terrorists we don't know about or can't find that are outside of the kill zone in Iraq living in Canada or Mexico or the US. Those are the ones that pose the threat.
"This war is just."
This war is just a scam for the war profitteers to clean up on, you can dump all the money you want into this war, and spend the next thirty years in Iraq or some other shithole on the planet, the fact is we're not going to be any safer at home and the terrorist agenda won't change one bit for having wasted all the men and materials. To think different is truly naive.
But anyway, carry on dudes, It's only $177 million a day and about 1800 servicemen down the drain, glad you're really making a difference, and I'm sure the people of London thank you too. Party on!
arty:
Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Saudi......probably a dozen or more if we wanted to invade other countries and turn the rest of the middle east into a du wasteland where the state bird is the suicide bomber and the state flower is the roadside bomb...
The neocons think planting the military in the middle east and drawing the insurgents in somehow makes us safer at home, when in fact the insurgents/terrorists don't all choose to run to Baghdad like a bug to a light bulb....some of them prefer the soft targets and London was exactly what was needed to wake these guys up to the reality that thier actions in Iraq aren't making anyone else safer......
As far as that babble about leaving it up to the middle east to deal with the terrorists.....I'm sure they'd just about as good of luck finding the next terrorist, just like the effort we had finding McVeigh before he took half a city block out in Oklahoma City.....great job of police work there dudes...but then again realists know they blend in with the common public and the middle east has about as good a chance recognizing terrorists as they would identifying people with the early signs of aids walking down the sidewalk.
"...then the US is just as good as hit. Don't be naive.."
The US will get hit again, only a matter of time. I'd rather see our military over here making an actual difference and being a visible, viable deterrent than over there shooting up Iraq and killing a few homies over there who wouldn't bother to leave the country to attack us and are fighting us because of the occupation. I'd worry about the terrorists we don't know about or can't find that are outside of the kill zone in Iraq living in Canada or Mexico or the US. Those are the ones that pose the threat.
"This war is just."
This war is just a scam for the war profitteers to clean up on, you can dump all the money you want into this war, and spend the next thirty years in Iraq or some other shithole on the planet, the fact is we're not going to be any safer at home and the terrorist agenda won't change one bit for having wasted all the men and materials. To think different is truly naive.
But anyway, carry on dudes, It's only $177 million a day and about 1800 servicemen down the drain, glad you're really making a difference, and I'm sure the people of London thank you too. Party on!
arty:
