who was better? Maravich or Bird?

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both were a lil before my time, i caught the tail end of Birds career and never saw Maravich although ive been reading the book Maravich, and apparently this guy was amazing in college. was Bird better in college? did Maravich's greatness continue in the pros and how come we dont list maravich up there with jordan, bird and magic as greatest of all time? cuz of Bird's rings?
 

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This question cannot be answered imo..They broke the mold when they made both these guys..Bird had a far better supporting cast in the NBA..In college, he singlehandidly put Indiana St on the map..And we have not heard from then since..

Larry Birds come by as often as Haleys Comet..Gotta go with bird

Think of it..Big goofy lookin white dude who was better than any one else for awhile:think2:
 

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in a sentence :

larry bird is a top 10 basketball player of all time, while maravich is top 40 or 50.
 

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Bird made his teammates better, Maravich didn't. But then, Maravich didn't have good teams around him either.
 

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last 2 posts are rediculous. MAravich did make his team better and was a much better passer than Bird. Bird was a ball hog. MAravich is top 10, was a better passer and shooter than Jordan.
 

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last 2 posts are rediculous. MAravich did make his team better and was a much better passer than Bird. Bird was a ball hog. MAravich is top 10, was a better passer and shooter than Jordan.



stick to what you know , finding fixed tennis matches..

oh wait , you dont even know those..
 

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last 2 posts are rediculous. MAravich did make his team better and was a much better passer than Bird. Bird was a ball hog. MAravich is top 10, was a better passer and shooter than Jordan.

If Maravich made his team better, how come he only won one playoff series in 5 attempts, and that was with Boston in Bird's rookie year?
 
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Bird was the greater pro of the two...Pistol Pete was the greatest college player that I have ever seen..big difference...

Rail is a very disturbed individual...Bird was no ball hog...
 

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Bird was the greater pro of the two...Pistol Pete was the greatest college player that I have ever seen..big difference...

Rail is a very disturbed individual...Bird was no ball hog...
Yeah I too was wondring what he meant..Bird did keep the ball more?..Maravicj shot half the time down the court..

Birds "was capable" of being as great a passer there ever was..Remember those perfectly placed bounce passes when a guy was on the run?.The over the head passes?..over the shoulder?..etc..

Maravich NBA supporting casts were HORRIBLE..He made bad teams decent..


He never had a "Pot Smokin Chief", Frankensteins Monster, Piece of "Cornbread", Leopard faced defensive great, baby brat ex MLB player, "Tiny" guy, etc..

Heck even the Celtic reserves were stars on other team aka Scott KC King Wedman, Gerald Henderson, Ernie Digregorio, Mush mouthed talkin jinxed MFer Dalton Gang walton, Greg go fly a Kite, Quin dont call me bill Buckner, Kermit the frog I punched Rudy T in the face Washington, Sydney Wicks etc.................
 

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No one in the world could do things with a basketball that Pete Maravich could do.
 
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Pistol Pete would have made the 3pt line obsolete if he had the opportunity for 3's...again, the greatest college player ever...Larry Bird was a better pro....
 

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Fell kinda sorry for today's generation they will never have a Bird vs Ervin Johnson,Lou Alcindor vs Elvin Hayes college rivalry ever again in our life times.



Game of the Century

Main article: Game of the Century (college basketball)

On January 20, 1968, Alcindor and the UCLA Bruins faced the Houston Cougars in the first-ever nationally televised regular season college basketball game. In front of a record 52,693 fans at the Houston Astrodome, Elvin Hayes scored 39 points and had 15 rebounds--while limiting Alcindor to just 15 points--as Houston beat UCLA 71-69. The Bruins 47-game winning streak ended in what has been called the "Game of the Century". Hayes and Alcindor would have a rematch in the 1968 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament where UCLA would defeat Houston in the semi-finals 101-69.
 

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Speaking of making absolete...

Do you young bucks know they out lawed the dunk during Lew Alcindors college career?..( Kareem Abdul jabbar)..thats how dominant this guy was Viejucobus
 

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I never got to see Pistol play, but the clips of him scoring and how inventive he is around the basket are jaw dropping.

Larry in his prime? Oh come on. He was the first point forward type that could grab a defensive rebound and make the full court outlet pass, back when it was unheard of. Now almost all players are expected to be able to do this.
 

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I believe it was more like in the upper 50's a game

Dale Brown said with the 3-point line, he would have averaged 50+ in college. Here are his college stats:


Collegiate

* The Sporting News College Player of the Year (1970)
* USBWA College Player of the Year (1969, 1970)
* Naismith Award Winner (1970)
* The Sporting News All-America First Team (1968, 1969, 1970)
* Three-time AP and UPI First-Team All-America (1968, 1969, 1970)
* Holds NCAA career record for most points (3,667, 44.2 ppg, three-year career) in 83 games
* Holds NCAA career record for highest points per game average (44.2 ppg)
* Holds NCAA record for most field goals made (1,387) and attempted (3,166)
* Holds NCAA record for most free throws made (893) and attempted (1,152)
* Holds NCAA record for most games scoring at least 50 points (28)
* Holds NCAA single-season record for most points (1,381) and highest per game average (44.5 ppg) in 1970
* Holds NCAA single-season record for most field goals made (522) and attempted (1,168) in 1970
* Holds NCAA single-season record for most games scoring at least 50 points (10) in 1970
* Holds NCAA single-game record for most free throws made (30 of 31) against Oregon State on Dec. 22, 1969
* Led the NCAA Division I in scoring with 43.8 ppg (1968); 44.2 (1969) and 44.5 ppg (1970)
* Averaged 43.6 ppg on the LSU freshman team (1967)
* Scored a career-high 69 points vs. Alabama (Feb. 7, 1970); 66 vs. Tulane (Feb. 10, 1969); 64 vs. Kentucky (Feb. 21, 1970); 61 vs. Vanderbilt (Dec. 11, 1969);
* Holds LSU records for most field goals in a game (26) against Vanderbilt on Jan. 29, 1969 and attempted (57) against Vanderbilt
* All-Southeastern Conference (1968, 1969, 1970)
* In 1988, Louisiana Governor Buddy Roemer signed legislation changing the official name of LSU's home court to the Maravich Assembly Center
* #23 Jersey retired by LSU (2007)
* One of only 4 players to have his number retired by a team he never played for (New Orleans Hornets)
* In 1970, Maravich led LSU to a 20-8 record and a third place finish in the NIT

Team Year Games Points PPG
LSU 1966-67[11] 17 741 43.6
LSU 1967-68 26 1138 43.8
LSU 1968-69 26 1148 44.2
LSU 1969-70 31 1381 44.5
TOTALS 1967-70[12] 83 3667 44.2
 

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