Who thinks betting on sports is easier than the stock market?

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there are indexed products that allow an investor to get the return of the stock mkt in good times, but if the mkt goes down you are credited with 3-4% intrest.

nice to have the potential UPSIDE, with out the downside risk.
 

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TheRightSide said:
I read all of your post. I feel you are on top of things. That includes more non gambling topics than anything. I am just trying to point out to the newbies that read how easy all this gambling thing is yet are not well imformed that Fish and some of the others rarelt take a side on a game. Most of the novices would not understand how that is done.

You are well respected poster by me. You know your shit.

TRS

You make solid points as usual TRS.

Sure not intending to send newbies down the wrong path.......mainly talking/posting to posters that have been around for more than just awhile.
 

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sean1 said:
Therightside, I have started threads telling people how to make 100% per year gambling. Most of them are over at Fezz's. I think Iceman has been a benificiary.

I do exactly what Fish does...Or pretty damn close. Unfortunately neither of us feel secure offshore with a lot of money anymore after years of not worrying.

Sean

There are about 10 guys that have pushed me over the edge by taking the time to explain everything to me and give me a style/method and of those 10 there are 4 I would say that have went above and beyond and Sean1 is one of them, to him I am extremely grateful and could never repay him enough. There are alot of people/opinions on these forums and you must be able to weed out 75% of the junk out on here but with that said there is more than 1 way to skin a cat.

With all that said. Passion is still by far an away the #1 thing you need, to win at this. I don't know how many people have approached me in the past year and tried to have me expalin this but I know they just don't have the time and energy to win at a high level. Like everything in life, HARD WORK PAYS OFF!!!!
 

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Fishhead said:
You make solid points as usual TRS.

Sure not intending to send newbies down the wrong path.......mainly talking/posting to posters that have been around for more than just awhile.



Fish I wish I could do what you do. You could charge 5k for the lessons you could give to all of us. I would pay it in a heart beat. I would love to not have a real job. You and a handfull of posters here deserve what you have earned. I'm just saying all those post about how easy this is and free money post could lead others down a path of doom. I will never be able to move a line with my pidly plays. But some others on this site could.
 

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Sportsbetting is much easier for me simply because I don't know much about the stock market.

Give some guys a 10k bankroll to bet with in sports and they can 400% return on it in 1 year. Give some guys 10k bankroll with stcoks and they would be lucky to make 25% return.

It's possible to have an ev of 1000%+ if you have a smaller bankroll and are betting aggressively. Of course this is crazy for most.

25%? I would assume like sports that ev can vary hugely in the stock market. I know of some guys who turned 20k into 80k over 3 months, I highly doubt their ev was anywhere near that but it shows you can experience some very large growth.
 

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I have no idea what Fish does, how much risk he takes and how big his average yearly bankroll growth is but the truth is that for 99% of punters the best way to get a huge bankroll growth is to find a good tout or two with excellent computer programs that generate hundreds and hundreds of profitable bets in a year in big gambling sports and follow him/them using intelligent money management.

Those who know them, ain´t talking about them.

I can only laugh when I hear so many here talking about how easy is to make a lot of money gambling. It´s not.
 

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I bought some stock today the name of Co MANNING AND CO lets just hope it is not an LLC!! LOSER LOSER COLTS
 

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Buying google when they went public was the biggest LOCK of my life. If I lived to be 100 I couldn't make a quarter of what I have already made on google.
 

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harrington said:
Buying google when they went public was the biggest LOCK of my life. If I lived to be 100 I couldn't make a quarter of what I have already made on google.[/quote

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NICE!!

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Sean, definately dont think this is a stupid conversation....

absolutley dont think, you know what your talking about in commodities.. the rate of return is solely dependent on how good the trader is...

do you know all the avenues possible in commodities....

options
selling options

spread trades

straddle trades
strangle trades..

there is many ways to reduce risk in the market as well.....

from buying a PUT and going long the futures,,,,,,,,, to selling a call and going Long the futures.......

many many ways and i dont think, you are even close on the Rate of Return.....

ill be starting with 25k in a couple more weeks.......... check out how im doing...... ill try and post the trades, the night before...... with some of the emini trades in real time........
 

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Wasn't this british guy busted about 6 years ago on trading with his money's bank ? He bankrupted by himself his bank trying to chase his trading losses.
Were talking hundreds of millions here.
 

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Santo said:

Thank you.
6 years of prison for 1.3 billions lost.
And he got a new job as manager !
Proves even wise guys can go bust.
Wonder if he used alternative cancer therapies to treat himself.
 

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