When He Retires, Will Cam Newton Be Considered The Best African-American NFL QB To Date?

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Cam will probably end up as the 2nd Best by the time he retires.

Hard to beat Moon's stats and the era of Play.
The guy had an arm and rushed when he needed to.

But of course it's a little early to Crown who the Best Black QB is ... outside of a Career ending injury to Cam... he should have a lot more years left
 

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Like you guys said, he is young.

And these are his accomplishments so far...




[h=3]Rookie records[edit][/h]
  • Most total yards by a rookie quarterback: 4,799.
  • Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush).
  • First rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
  • First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
  • First rookie to throw for 400+ yards in his first career game
  • 2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051), 2011
  • 2nd most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
  • 2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
  • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[SUP][110][/SUP]
  • Along with Andy Dalton, the two made the first pair of rookie quarterbacks to make the Pro Bowl.
[h=3]Records and achievements[edit][/h]
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[SUP][111][/SUP]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first career start, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals
  • Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[SUP][110][/SUP]
  • Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals, vs. Green Bay Packers, and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars)
  • First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[SUP][112][/SUP]
  • First QB in NFL history with 100+ pass touchdowns and 25+ rush touchdowns in first 5 seasons[SUP][113][/SUP]
  • Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Second player in NFL history with 20+ passing touchdowns and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season, joining Kordell Stewart ('97)
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 500+ rushing yards in a season
  • Had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in the same game eight times, tying the NFL single-season record – previously accomplished by Steve Grogan of theNew England Patriots in 1976 and Daunte Culpepper of the Minnesota Vikings in 2002
  • Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons
  • First quarterback in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in first two seasons
  • First player in NFL history to have over 250 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards with a passing touchdown and rushing touchdown in a game (vs. Falcons on September 12, 2012 - 287 yards passing and 2 touchdowns, 116 yards rushing and 1 touchdown and vs. Bengals on October 11, 2014)
  • First player to have 30 passing touchdowns and 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons
  • Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)
  • First starting QB to win the NFC South, back to back seasons
  • Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass touchdowns in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning ('99)
  • Second most combined passing and rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner)
  • First player in NFL history with 50 passing touchdowns and 25 Rushing touchdowns in his first three seasons
  • First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons
  • Most rushing touchdowns by a QB in his first four seasons (33 rushing touchdowns)
  • First player in NFL history to have 10,000 passing yards and 2,000 rushing yards in his first four seasons
  • First player in NFL history to have at least 3,000 passing yards and 500 rushing yards in four consecutive seasons
  • Most games in NFL history with at least 200 passing yards and 80 rushing yards with multiple touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown (4 games)[SUP][114][/SUP]
  • 2nd most games in NFL history with a pass TD and a rush TD (30)[SUP][94][/SUP]
  • 3rd QB in NFL history with with 2+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown[SUP][115][/SUP]
  • 2nd QB in NFL history with with 3+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown[SUP][116][/SUP]
  • Most touchdown passes from a player from Auburn[SUP][117][/SUP]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to earn a comeback victory when trailing in overtime[SUP][105][/SUP]
  • 2nd most combined yards in NFL history in a player’s first five seasons[SUP][118][/SUP]
[h=3]Carolina Panthers franchise records[edit][/h]
  • Most combined yards in franchise history[SUP][119][/SUP]
  • Most NFC Offensive Player of the Week Awards (4)[SUP][1][/SUP]
  • Rookie season quarterback records: completions (310), yards (4,051), passing touchdowns (21), completion percentage (60%), passer rating (84.5)
  • Highest average yards per carry in a season (5.83 in 2012)
  • Longest offensive scoring play (91-yard pass) to Brandon LaFell, December 24, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Second rookie to make Pro Bowl (with Steve Smith in 2001)
  • First Panther to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year
  • Most passing attempts without an interception (176)
  • Most consecutive seasons with 3,000 yards passing - 4 (2011-2014)
  • 5 passing touchdowns in a single game (tied with Steve Beuerlein)[SUP][120][/SUP]
  • 1st quarterback in franchise history to throw four TD passes in the first half of a game (11/22/2015 v Washington Redskins)[SUP][121][/SUP]
 

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What about all the pathetic white qbs that shouldn't be starting?

I guarantee there are 10-15 easy that are pure trash


There are very few good QB's in general

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. The majority of QB's in NFL history have been white, and overwhelmingly so. There have been just a handful of great black QB's in NFL history.

I thought the question was very simple to understand, however, you seem to be making a race issue out of it.
 

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I love Cam but he has a steep hill to climb to pass Randall and McNair. Moon is damn near unreachable.

And I love how since Russel Wilson is considered successful that he is black. The truth is he is mixed 50/50 but since perception is he is successful, he is considered black. LOL

This is incorrect. Both of R. Wilson's parents are black.
 

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I also really liked Aaron Brooks


IMO there are plenty of good black qbs. I don't agree with the OP

Aaron fucking Brooks?

The fact that you brought up Aaron Brooks's name in a thread about greatness just makes the point that there have been so few good black QBs.

Your first statement basically directly refutes your second one.

Now, I do agree with Defying that we are probably right around the corner from seeing more blacks succeed at the position. I disagree with his timeline, I'd say 10 years not "a couple", but whatever. The bottom line is that historically it is a short list, you made that point for us. Aaron Brooks. LMFAO

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What about all the pathetic white qbs that shouldn't be starting?

I guarantee there are 10-15 easy that are pure trash


There are very few good QB's in general


Wtf is the point of this statement? Has no bearing to the conversation.
 

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Cam is the most physically gifted NFL QB -- ever. White or Black.

I can't disagree with this. I've never seen a more impressive pure athlete play this position at this level, period. For that reason I think yes, when he retires he will be considered the greatest. Still a lot of career to go though.
 

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Just my two cents....... Same discussion about Obama. No?

And "mostly American", too. Right?

Yes sir you're right.

But not sure if you're saying Vlad is right or not when he says some people only claim a person as being their ethnicity when it's convenient....??
 
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