MrCleo said:sorry you can't justify Patriots letting go of Vinateri
TTinCO said:Bizarre move IMO. I can't trust Gramatica
Journeyman said:hno: I just can't see this being a good move...Vandy was struggling a little though, but Gramatica was real bad his last two seasons from what I remember.
This is not a good move, how can you take a guy who was out of football over a guy who has been as consistent as anyone not named Matt Stover or Adam Ventierri?
Journeyman said:hno: I just can't see this being a good move...Vandy was struggling a little though, but Gramatica was real bad his last two seasons from what I remember.
This is not a good move, how can you take a guy who was out of football over a guy who has been as consistent as anyone not named Matt Stover or Adam Ventierri?
quantumleap said:I saw a stat on TV that was saying Vanderjagt's numbers this year weren't as good as the last 2 years. Looking at this year's numbers he's not doing too bad. Below are the stats for the 1st 10 games from nfl.com. The 11th game he missed 2 FG's and the 12th game he was 1 for 1. Not a bad season IMO.
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg1 align=middle><TD>Year</TD><TD>Team</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>1-19</TD><TD>20-29</TD><TD>30-39</TD><TD>40-49</TD><TD>50+</TD><TD>Tot</TD><TD>Lg</TD><TD>Blk</TD><TD>Pct</TD><TD>XP</TD><TD>XPG</TD><TD>Pct</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>1998</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>8-8</TD><TD>4-4</TD><TD>8-9</TD><TD>6-9</TD><TD>27-31</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>87.1</TD><TD>23-23</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>1999</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>2-2</TD><TD>10-10</TD><TD>11-13</TD><TD>10-11</TD><TD>1-2</TD><TD>34-38</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>89.5</TD><TD>43-43</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2000</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>6-6</TD><TD>13-13</TD><TD>5-6</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>25-27</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>92.6</TD><TD>46-46</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2001</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>7-8</TD><TD>6-6</TD><TD>12-16</TD><TD>3-4</TD><TD>28-34</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>82.4</TD><TD>41-42</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>97.6</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>7-8</TD><TD>6-7</TD><TD>6-12</TD><TD>3-3</TD><TD>23-31</TD><TD>54</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>74.2</TD><TD>34-34</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>17-17</TD><TD>7-7</TD><TD>12-12</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>37-37</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>100.0</TD><TD>46-46</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>6-6</TD><TD>9-11</TD><TD>5-7</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>20-25</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>80.0</TD><TD>59-60</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>98.3</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>9-9</TD><TD>6-7</TD><TD>7-8</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>23-25</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>92.0</TD><TD>52-52</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg3 vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=left>Dallas Cowboys</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>6-7</TD><TD>5-6</TD><TD>1-4</TD><TD>1-1</TD><TD>13-18</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>72.2</TD><TD>33-33</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>100.0</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 id=total_CAREER_k_kicking_points vAlign=center align=right height=15><TD class=bg4 align=left>TOTAL</TD><TD class=bg4 align=left></TD><TD class=bg4>135</TD><TD class=bg4>6-6</TD><TD class=bg4>76-79</TD><TD class=bg4>67-74</TD><TD class=bg4>66-85</TD><TD class=bg4>15-22</TD><TD class=bg4>230-266</TD><TD class=bg4>54</TD><TD class=bg4>9</TD><TD class=bg4>86.5</TD><TD class=bg4>377-379</TD><TD class=bg4>377</TD><TD class=bg4>99.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>