USA in trouble...

[Arodd]

Frisichilla just on Sportscenter---

"Greek coach picked the U.S. apart."

"Best talent doens't always win the game of basketball."
"
Rules are different, NBA is more 1 on 1, 2 on 2, international is much more of a team game."
"As good as the attitude, as great as the talent, 2-3 weeks not long enough to develop team cohesiveness."
"they had no idea how to defend the pick and roll, and said as much during the press conference after the game."

Chris Sheridan--- "2nd and 3rd quarters were stunning...I'd call it a layup drill, except for the fact that there enough wide open looks to break up the monotomy of...."

There ya go. Greece wasn't getting lucky. Like I said, wide open Js and cuts to the basket.

 

[D2bets]

Cincy's absolutely right. If it happens once it is luck. Happens again it is worth noting. Third time is a charm and a trend. They play the exact style of ball, their own, that the US has fits defending. Cutting, laying down screens, movement without the ball. Swinging the ball around the court to the weakside without blinking an eye. They may be shorter, less athletic and have a lot less melatonin, but they play the international game perfectly. Unselfish play and team chemistry are something the NBA has just lost sight of. Kobe would have fit perfectly.


Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

It's not the third time. It was the first time for this team as assembled. They lost one game out of nine. They had a bad game and Greece played the game of their lives. Stuff happens. US would beat Greece 9 out of 10. Sometimes the 1 time happens. Best wishes. :toast:

 

[gynecologist]

It's not the third time. It was the first time for this team as assembled. They lost one game out of nine. They had a bad game and Greece played the game of their lives. Stuff happens. US would beat Greece 9 out of 10. Sometimes the 1 time happens. Best wishes. :toast:

Exactly :toast:

 

[cincy_]

It's not the third time. It was the first time for this team as assembled. They lost one game out of nine. They had a bad game and Greece played the game of their lives. Stuff happens. US would beat Greece 9 out of 10. Sometimes the 1 time happens. Best wishes. :toast:

Forget 9 out of 10 - when was the last time the US won ANYTHING in basketball?????

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Lay up drill with a team that could not stop one play. How many over their average did Greece score? This was a mismatch. Last US team with Timmy in Olympics held it's own vs. Greece. But this squad just tanked. The team was a huge question mark without facing serious competition. When they did, it was one and done. First good team kicked them to the curb. Drove the ball and executed a flawless offense. That was a clinic on ball movement plus pick and roll. They found the open man or the best look almost every time in the middle of the game. They executed and consistently got high percentage looks, and knocked those down. If it is not becoming painfully obvious at this juncture, the NBA cannot play International ball. It is a different game relying on team play, fundamentals and cohesive team play. They just play the game better. If they played here in an NBA game, they would lose huge. But they have learned how to win the International game. So the Greeks can win it all. They were a fat dog to do that. I think I saw 10-1 or higher. Now they are favored over Pauless Spain. Should be a good game. The one that interests me is the next US game.


Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

All I know is they lost, before the Gold medal game again. Which is 3-0 last three now. Can't win it all if they can't get to the title game. 2002, 2004, 2006. Yes, the US would win 9 out of 10 against all of the teams that knock them out. People that think like that drive the line from -11 to -13 and lose outright. Gotta like that. USA! USA!


Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

 

[gynecologist]

Your putting way too much into this. You are comparing the 2002 Olympic team to the 2006 team? Unfair comparision IMO.. Alot of different players and attitude. Upsets happen. Again it took 101pts and a 63% FG% to defeat the US.. Greece played out of their minds and TEAM USA obviously overlooked Greece. before this game,TEAM USA was killing everybody, winning all their games by an average margin of 25 points.

 

[Arodd]

There are only a handful of teams in the world that can hang with the US. Greece was one of them. The 25 point margin doesn't mean too much IMO.

Again, the 63% wasn't outrageous considering how many layups they made.

 

[joeyfitzclick]

How did Ireland do ?

 

[royalfan]

What in the hell is going on here? Now even, what I thought to be smart people, like Frog are overreacting and completeing being off their rocker. Unbelievable. In ONE game of basketball anything can happen. I suppose George Mason is better than Uconn too. What a bunch of dumbshits. This is so ludicrous it is not even worth discussing. And even dumber yet, are those folks that cannot even dream about figuring out that the USA doesnt even come close to having their best team assembled. To say Greece is better than the USA in basketball is just completely riduclous. Get a clue. You might want to quit this argument Froggie IMMEDIATELY before more people read this complete and utter nonsense. Posts like these will quickly lose ones credibility by anyone with a clue.

 

[GreenDoberman]

The same reason George Mason beat UConn is the same reason Greece beat the US, they were a better team. Certainly less talented individually, but together a cohesive force. Motivation being a secondary reason.

As an exercise Royalfan, try tying your thumb to your palm and see how dexterous you are with that hand.

 

[royalfan]

The same reason George Mason beat UConn is the same reason Greece beat the US, they were a better team. Certainly less talented individually, but together a cohesive force. Motivation being a secondary reason.

As an exercise Royalfan, try tying your thumb to your palm and see how dexterous you are with that hand.

George Mason is a better team than Uconn? It is getting deep in here.


uppy:

 

[Railbird]

U conn was 10 pts overrated whole year. Washington beat them but refs screwed them. Still upset about that.

Anyway, USA ratface coach could not figure out how to stop a pick and roll. Does not surprise me, guy cant coach a lick, he is good at brainwashing highschool seniors and thats about it.

 

[Railbird]

Royalfan,

Sounds like that you are not aware that Team USA's basketball IQ is in the TOILET. Part of reason Uconn lost to George.

 

[royalfan]

Royalfan,

Sounds like that you are not aware that Team USA's basketball IQ is in the TOILET. Part of reason Uconn lost to George.

NBA is my most powerful moneymaking sport. I watch every single playoff game start to finish, much like the little league world series. I have a pretty good idea, who the best country is in basketball. If FIBA wants to have ridiculous one and done tourneys to determine their world champion, than almost every year they are not going to get the best team to the winners circle just like the NCAA tourney.

 

[gynecologist]

Keep making excuses for why the U.S. lost. Typical biased American mentality, make excuses for why we're not #1. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

Argentina 81
USA 96

uppy:

:howdy: :lolBIG: Have a nice day...

 

[gynecologist]

Obviously it has became the trendy thing to do criticize TEAM USA. They lose one game after winning every other game by an avg of 25+ and everyone jumps on them, THE GAME WAS A FLUKE and if you can't seethat I feel sorry for ya.. GET IT THROUGH YOUR MINDS KNUCKLEHEADS this is basketball shit happens.

 

[SkinsRaj28]

hahahahaha you're still going at it. I tried my best to stay away and just let you have your fun, but this is too much.

The U.S. played nobody in the qualifying round. 25 point margin doesn't mean dick when you lose in the semi's...wait, maybe you're right. In 10 years, all anyone will remember is that the U.S. had a 25 point average margin of victory in this tournament, not that they lost. My fault.

Not one publication that I've seen blamed the loss to Greece on luck, or the fact that they played the game of their lives. But you're making that claim, so I guess everyone else is wrong. Again, my fault.

Oh, and last time I checked, free throw shooting is a part of the game that has nothing to do with luck. Lebron and Co. aren't great FT shooters. Nor are they good three-point shooters. 9-29 from behind the arc? That's one of the predominant reasons why they lost, not "luck." Greece baited them into shooting the 3 over and over again and the U.S. players bit every time, and it obviously cost them.

I never said the U.S. wasn't a better team, less talented, or anything of the sort. But the bottom line is that Greece beat the U.S. and thoroughly outplayed them. Would it happen 7 times out of 10? Who cares? It happened the other day and that's all that matters. No one was even discussing that, that wasn't even the issue.

Sure, you can call it an upset. But can you call it luck? No.

You got completely off-topic a long time ago. You went from saying that Greece was lucky to saying that the U.S. would win 7 out of 10, when no one said anything to the contrary prior to that post. Go take your aderol and start focusing again.

Greece outplayed the USA. That was my only point, and luck had nothing to do with it. Unless you consider making uncontested layups lucky, in which case, my fault again.

Oh, and the US beat Argentina for the bronze medal...that definitely means that the U.S. losing to Greece was luck. Fuck, I'm so stupid. I also forgot that the Colts were the REAL Super Bowl champions last year...just a fluke that Pitt beat 'em, right? And that was complete luck too, since Indy was clearly the better team, of course.

You're done.

 

[SkinsRaj28]

Oh, and let me apologize for using big words like, "contrary," "predominant," and "publication."

 

[gynecologist]

hahahahaha you're still going at it. I tried my best to stay away and just let you have your fun, but this is too much.

The U.S. played nobody in the qualifying round. 25 point margin doesn't mean dick when you lose in the semi's...wait, maybe you're right. In 10 years, all anyone will remember is that the U.S. had a 25 point average margin of victory in this tournament, not that they lost. My fault.

Not one publication that I've seen blamed the loss to Greece on luck, or the fact that they played the game of their lives. But you're making that claim, so I guess everyone else is wrong. Again, my fault.

Oh, and last time I checked, free throw shooting is a part of the game that has nothing to do with luck. Lebron and Co. aren't great FT shooters. Nor are they good three-point shooters. 9-29 from behind the arc? That's one of the predominant reasons why they lost, not "luck." Greece baited them into shooting the 3 over and over again and the U.S. players bit every time, and it obviously cost them.

I never said the U.S. wasn't a better team, less talented, or anything of the sort. But the bottom line is that Greece beat the U.S. and thoroughly outplayed them. Would it happen 7 times out of 10? Who cares? It happened the other day and that's all that matters. No one was even discussing that, that wasn't even the issue.

Sure, you can call it an upset. But can you call it luck? No.

You got completely off-topic a long time ago. You went from saying that Greece was lucky to saying that the U.S. would win 7 out of 10, when no one said anything to the contrary prior to that post. Go take your aderol and start focusing again.

Greece outplayed the USA. That was my only point, and luck had nothing to do with it. Unless you consider making uncontested layups lucky, in which case, my fault again.

Oh, and the US beat Argentina for the bronze medal...that definitely means that the U.S. losing to Greece was luck. Fuck, I'm so stupid. I also forgot that the Colts were the REAL Super Bowl champions last year...just a fluke that Pitt beat 'em, right? And that was complete luck too, since Indy was clearly the better team, of course.

You're done.

You just wrote a bunch of nonsense. IMO you didn't make one point.
Obviously you just don't understand this is basketball and in one game anything can happen.

Please learn something

What in the hell is going on here? Now even, what I thought to be smart people, like Frog are overreacting and completeing being off their rocker. Unbelievable. In ONE game of basketball anything can happen. I suppose George Mason is better than Uconn too. What a bunch of dumbshits. This is so ludicrous it is not even worth discussing. And even dumber yet, are those folks that cannot even dream about figuring out that the USA doesnt even come close to having their best team assembled. To say Greece is better than the USA in basketball is just completely riduclous. Get a clue. You might want to quit this argument Froggie IMMEDIATELY before more people read this complete and utter nonsense. Posts like these will quickly lose ones credibility by anyone with a clue.

Now I know you don't have the class to disagree and be civil about it,and I know your stubborn enough to still believe you have a case even though it's obvious you are SO WRONG. So hopefully this will be the last of this.

I stay out of your way and you stay out of mine. I don't respect people that can't agree to disagree and like to throw little insults in their replies.
Thats low class. I'll stay out of way and hopefully you can do the same.

Good Luck and hope you have a profitable football season..