Update On Royal Sports...

[THE SHRINK]

Thanks Chuck but I think you left out THE GENERAL...

I believe he deserves the most RESPECT & RECOGNITION regarding this sitation because The General worked overtime on it while I was in Las Vegas...

Without him, ALL of the moderators, and our posters, this site would not be where it is today, and for that, I am grateful... :howdy:

P.S.

I am with you Froggie on Illinois...

Best of Luck,

THE SHRINK

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

I happened to be at work, hope that was ok with you...should have gotten permission first i guess...

I still do not believe that Kevin or Richard are scumbags, as you say, and if you are asking me to condemn them, when they still havent stiffed any players i am not going to do it....As we have all said many times, you have to weigh your options, and play where you feel safe......all the info that is available has been posted here for everyone to see (that seems to contradict krispy kremes accusation that we censor the posts, and ban the posters)..

Its amazing, if we are all on the same page, and say the same things, then we are YES MEN, lying to protect our "salary" according to some, then if we choose to have our own opinion, like Fish and I did, then we are "unorganized" and the "right hand doesnt know what the left is doing"...

lets just face it, we have many posters here, who like to take shots at us, whenever possible, and thats simply the way it is.....and if this post made you feel better, so be it, take a few more shots if it will make u feel good....i dont expect any less.....

If i had said shrink was right i would be a yes man, if i express MY OPINION, based on MY DEALINGS with a book, then i am stupid, dont know what i am talking about , fiddling while rome burns, whatever cliche' you choose to use....

Its all good....

I will still do my best at my job, and strive to help the RX in any way I can....wont change anything....

I am not saying you should all goosestep to the ovens. What I am saying is better communication between parties would have not let you and Fish endorse a shop whose banner was getting taken down. And from what I read in this post, many other worse situations. Answer me this, would you still endorse or play at Royal, after reading The SHRINK's post in this thread? That is my left hand right hand comparison. Amd it was not a shot, but a word of advice, so you can tighten up communications. Just a constructive critism, to help improve your image. Sorry if you took it wrong, and by no means do I suggest you all just spew out the company line.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:

 

[peteep]

Not pleased with this development. I still don't fully understand why these slow pays are coming up considering I have had three neteller payouts, all same day, in the past two weeks (including one today). Nonetheless, make sure you register with sga if you have a balance there in order to feel secure. I wish them all the best as I really like this book.

 

[bucsfan67]

I am not saying you should all goosestep to the ovens. What I am saying is better communication between parties would have not let you and Fish endorse a shop whose banner was getting taken down. And from what I read in this post, many other worse situations. Answer me this, would you still endorse or play at Royal, after reading The SHRINK's post in this thread? That is my left hand right hand comparison. Amd it was not a shot, but a word of advice, so you can tighten up communications. Just a constructive critism, to help improve your image. Sorry if you took it wrong, and by no means do I suggest you all just spew out the company line.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:

thanks for the post OF, but i wasnt really aiming my post at you, but the person who jumped me for not responding while i was at work....Kinda like the Rio thread at 10 pm on Sunday night, if they dont post in 30 minutes, then lets assume they are "dodging" the issue....

Immediately assuming that i wasnt posting because i was in the wrong.....i never post that time of day, i work......

And no, after what i have read today i WOULD NOT endorse anyone to send their money there, however, i am not in fear of my funds that are there either.......I dont really endorse people to send their money anywhere to be honest, as i think any book has the "potential" to go under......I mean every books "pays" til the "dont pay"......all i can state, is MY EXPERIENCE with a book......if its bad, i will say so, if its good i will say so....

MY experience with royal has been good, they have been tremendous help with contests, very generous, and my players HAVE ALWAYS been paid anything they won in contests.......This news is disturbing, no doubt, and i am certainly hoping it works out for the best.....

However, i dont feel good about taking shots at them, and "ASSUMING" they wont honor commitments, etc. when they have always "honored" them in the past.....

But in answer to your question, based on recent news, i would not advise someone to send money there right now....However if i was asked, "should we make a run on the bank" get everything out, i wouldnt feel that is necessary either........as always, you should never have more anywhere than u can "survive" losing........

There are many books that ad here, or other places, that i wouldnt advise people to send money to either....and it has nothing to do with the fact that i think they wont pay, or anything else, maybe just cuz they are new, etc....but i dont want the responsibility of it....I prefer everyone make their own judgement based on what they hear.........A new poster here today, would not feel safe sending to royal, rio, skybook, bcn, mybookie, or hollywood, according to some of the threads......and there are several books on that list that i trust......dont you?

 

[SHACK]

As you all may remember Royal was dragging their feet on paying me in May of 2004. It took them about 30 days to pay me, but they eventually did. They paid me a over 30k. I have played at Royal since September of 1998. They send me a turkey every year for Christmas and have always paid. I was not happy about waiting a month to get paid last year, but I had the confidence to re-up with them last month for 17k. Royal has had some issues in the past year or so, but have always paid. I would like to see them get back to their top tier level that they once were, but I do see them trying. They have made many changes for the better, lets just hope it continues and the payouts come out like they should.

In my opinion Royal is not going to stiff anyone, but they are and have been a bit slow on payouts. Next request I make for a payout I will post it in a new thread and put them on the clock.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Great post Shack, same happened to me, at the same time. I never went back. But if guys like you come back, and say you were paid promptly, it would sure help Royal get back to what they once were. It is truly a shame, they were a top, fast pay, no hassle shop until recently. Please keep us informed.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:

 

[nimue77]

If recently means in the last year than I disagree.

Great post Shack, same happened to me, at the same time. I never went back. But if guys like you come back, and say you were paid promptly, it would sure help Royal get back to what they once were. It is truly a shame, they were a top, fast pay, no hassle shop until recently. Please keep us informed.

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Up until my jerk off, right after the buyout, they were pretty solid, had a auto pay on Neteller. No slow pays that I was aware of, or I would not have signed up. But you may know a lot that I do not so...

Best Wishes...OF:howdy:

 

[Halifax]

I was not happy about waiting a month to get paid last year, but I had the confidence to re-up with them last month for 17k.

Must have received The Mother of All Bonuses for that size of a deposit.

 

[Southpaw]

Mike from Canada

in regards to Royal Sports I was wondering if anyone from the RX could give me an idea of what happened to Canada Mike?
He left Mill a month or so ago and relocated to Royals headquarters, in the last week his direct # has been unanswered (without a v-message) and I have been unable to track him down in the Royal office. They said he was back in Canada for a wake last week, now he is just unable to answer the phone according to them the last few days....any info would be appreciated? thanks

 

[Dante]

Must have received The Mother of All Bonuses for that size of a deposit.

Hali...having met SHACK at the RX bash he did not strike me as the bonuswhore type guy....

 

[Halifax]

Hali...having met SHACK at the RX bash he did not strike me as the bonuswhore type guy....

Come on now, Dante, it's me you're talking to. :lolBIG:

Bonus whore or no bonus whore, you know that anyone that sends $17K to Royal has to be staring about a $5,000 bonus directly in the face. Otherwise, why would you send them so much at one time ?

 

[lakerfan]

Hali...having met SHACK at the RX bash he did not strike me as the bonuswhore type guy....

Do you have good "gaydar" too? :lolBIG:

Dante, I imagine the "bonuswhore" type to be either bookish or daytime drunk can you help me with the FBI composite I am developing?

 

[Dante]

Well since the great Halifax and Lakerfan both tell me im NUTS to think that then MY god I must be
I STAND corrected gentleman

and actually I do have a good gaydar... I can spot a fruit a mile away...LANDER???

 

[TIGERPAW]

kick them to the curb and move on.

 

[billpapa]

Tell us more about sga, please!

 

[REDEYE]

Speaking of the RX Bash, If Royal sends down this TEJ dude as their represenitive can we get a metal detector set up at the doorway on the way into the party. thanks arty:

 

[CHOPTALK]

Speaking of the RX Bash, If Royal sends down this TEJ dude as their represenitive can we get a metal detector set up at the doorway on the way into the party. thanks arty:

Funniest post of the day:lolBIG:

 

[harrington]

Thanks to the RX and Shrink for making this call!!

 

[harrington]

Not pleased with this development. I still don't fully understand why these slow pays are coming up considering I have had three neteller payouts, all same day, in the past two weeks (including one today). Nonetheless, make sure you register with sga if you have a balance there in order to feel secure. I wish them all the best as I really like this book.

:smoker2: