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Colorado. Why are they -130 to 140 favorites over a team in first place? That's all I need to know. Every stiff in america will be on Arizona. Randy Johnson gets lit up like times square on New Year's Eve tomorrow.

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youre going against a lot of whats made you a good capper. are you pressing lately? youre asking why colorado is favored at home with their best pitcher (right now) throwing? what gives? youre usually a lot more level headed.
 

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Pressing? I went 5-1 this last weekend and 1-1 tonight. I have made money betting these fishy lines. Jiminez is good but probably not their best pitcher although he has came a long ways. I just figure that most people would look at a game between first place Arizona (even though their record sucks and they play in the NL Worst) with Randy Johnson pitching against a bad Colorado team and think "Wow Arizona is the obvious play". Jiminez's ERA is lower than Johnson's and he's been very good at home. Colorado is best against LHP. Johnson has been good lately but was very bad for a stretch earlier in the year.


youre going against a lot of whats made you a good capper. are you pressing lately? youre asking why colorado is favored at home with their best pitcher (right now) throwing? what gives? youre usually a lot more level headed.
 

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I am upset tonight because I liked Minnesota and did not play them but no I am not pressing. I had a good nice week last week.
 

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i dont pay much attention to whether other guys are winning or losing their games to be honest. im more concerned with the content and contributions of their posts. you usually seem to be on point with your stuff. but the posts youre making tonight are bizarre. you are way too concerned with playing 'hunches' and who you 'think' people will be on. who cares who is on what side? theres a baseball game to cap. there is no pointspread to impact the game. its win or lose. if you really think johnson is going to get hit hard, then your colorado play is certainly understandable. but if you think johnson is going to get hit hard simply because colorado is favored ... well, then youre just gambling.
 

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bullshit. People are generally wrong. Someone was keeping track of public underdogs this year and their record was horrible. People hate underdogs so when you see a majority on an underdog you better watch out. I hammered Kansas City a week or so back against Chicago in a similar situation. I would rather be on an 85% road favorite than a 60% road dog. Keep track of it, public underdogs are deadly. I don't think I have been winning because of hunches but the lines do tell you a lot. I hammered San Diego in pre-season NFL Saturday night as a three point favorite because EVERYONE was on the underdog Dallas. SD won easily.
 

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bullshit. People are generally wrong. Someone was keeping track of public underdogs this year and their record was horrible. People hate underdogs so when you see a majority on an underdog you better watch out. I hammered Kansas City a week or so back against Chicago in a similar situation. I would rather be on an 85% road favorite than a 60% road dog. Keep track of it, public underdogs are deadly. I don't think I have been winning because of hunches but the lines do tell you a lot. I hammered San Diego in pre-season NFL Saturday night as a three point favorite because EVERYONE was on the underdog Dallas. SD won easily.

wow. public plays on preseason football? wtf is this forum coming to. whats next, public plays in the olympics? wally, you are much better than this. much. ive read some of your stuff and found it to often be on point. you are not this gullible.
 

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I look at many things when selecting a game. If I like a game and I see lots of people on the opposite side that usually means to play it. Jiminez has been good at home and off of a bad outing I expect him to bounce back so yes I like Colorado but the line makes me like them even more because I know people will see Arizona as an underdog and jump all over them.
 

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Ask BB. He posted three pre season games Friday night he needed. Yes, the public was all over Dallas Saturday night and Dallas got ran out of the stadium. Just because it's pre-season doesn't mean the public is any better at it than anything else. I also bet on Atlanta Sat night because Jacksonville was getting hammered as a 3.5 point favorite. Guess how many Jacksonville won by? 3 points. The public can't pick their nose in most cases. Again, I liked San Diego to win anyway then I saw the public on Dallas and it just closes the case for me.

But maybe you think Big Bookie is lying about the plays he needs. Degenerate gamblers never stop (and never stop losing).

wow. public plays on preseason football? wtf is this forum coming to. whats next, public plays in the olympics? wally, you are much better than this. much. ive read some of your stuff and found it to often be on point. you are not this gullible.
 

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the public isnt betting atlanta/jacksonville preseason football. nor are they betting dallas/sandiego. any worthwhile sample will have to wait a few weeks until the true public comes out. but if it makes people feel better about their bets to feel like they are going against the grain week one of preseason, then more power to 'em. the real public barely knows the games are being played.
 

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So big bookie is a liar? Just like you said that people werent betting on Pittsburgh when the man posted that he needed them to lose? Why would he post he needed three NFL pre-season games if he didn't need them? The public was all over Jacksonville and lost, the public was all over Dallas and lost. I guess big bookie is just a liar. Maybe you should tell him.

the public isnt betting atlanta/jacksonville preseason football. nor are they betting dallas/sandiego. any worthwhile sample will have to wait a few weeks until the true public comes out. but if it makes people feel better about their bets to feel like they are going against the grain week one of preseason, then more power to 'em. the real public barely knows the games are being played.
 

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It's funny that you say people weren't betting those games and that if it makes you feel better to say they were and go against it. Well, I won both bets so yeah that does make me feel pretty good. It once again proves how stupid people are. You could hand most people tomorrow morning's newspaper and tell them the point spread and they would still lose.
 

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Again, I said degenerate gamblers wager all the time and lose all the time. Just some of us are smart enough to go against them.

the public isnt betting atlanta/jacksonville preseason football. nor are they betting dallas/sandiego. any worthwhile sample will have to wait a few weeks until the true public comes out. but if it makes people feel better about their bets to feel like they are going against the grain week one of preseason, then more power to 'em. the real public barely knows the games are being played.
 

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So big bookie is a liar? Just like you said that people werent betting on Pittsburgh when the man posted that he needed them to lose? Why would he post he needed three NFL pre-season games if he didn't need them? The public was all over Jacksonville and lost, the public was all over Dallas and lost. I guess big bookie is just a liar. Maybe you should tell him.

lol. not sure what an rx poster named big bookie has to do with anything. round up 50 local books. give 'em a 20 or 30 client sample. and sit back and watch in utter amazement at how books can write entirely different action on the same game. you are confusing who someone needs with what a public side is. quite a big difference. you could race ants in the parking lot for your friends and take bets on it. if 9 friends pick the ant that has a little red dot on him and 1 friend takes the other one, obviously you 'need' the one without the red dot. but with very few people really concerned about the outcome, is there really enough sense to talk anti-public? and would it even make sense? thats kinda how people sound when they talk anti-public on games very few true public joes are even betting. btw, im pretty sure big bookie's posting what he needs ... but that really doesnt have anything to do with the public.
 

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You're right prodigy. You know better than the books or someone that is actually taking the bets on who the public is or isn't on or that the public isn't even betting. BB has probably been making up the plays all year. Again, I apologize for assuming that someone actually taking bets would know more than you.
 

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You're right prodigy. You know better than the books or someone that is actually taking the bets on who the public is or isn't on or that the public isn't even betting. BB has probably been making up the plays all year. Again, I apologize for assuming that someone actually taking bets would know more than you.

based on this response, its apparent you really didnt read anything that i just wrote above. what on earth does big bookie have to do with anything? he is posting games he needs. other guys have done the same. sometimes, they coincide. other times they dont. thats part of booking games locally. hes one contributor to the forum who makes a good contribution daily. still doesnt have anything to do with the true public though. he'll be the first to tell you there are times when he needs the dead ass public side. but dont let facts get in the way.
 

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You said people aren't betting on pre-season games when he posted the plays he needed. Either you're wrong or BB is a liar. What does BB have to do with you saying that people aren't betting on Pre-Season or that you said people aren't betting on certain baseball teams? What does it have to do with it??????????? It has to do with him saying he needs games in pre-season to win and needs certain teams in baseball to win. It has everything to do with it. People are the same all over. People tend to bet the same teams everywhere. People still think the Yankees are really good all over because that's what the media talks about. People bet on Dallas all over the country because they are a glamour team. If you can't figure out what it has to do with anything then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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the line for who wins this argument

prodigy -150
wallybell +200


im jumping on this action :thumbsup:
 

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The public will be on Prodigy and lose - then prodigy will say the public wasn't really on them and it didn't matter and had nothing to do with why he lost.

I can hear "prodigy" sitting here in November saying the public doesn't play regular season NFL, they just wait for the playoffs that's when the real public plays. Then when the playoffs roll around he will the "real real" public doesn't bet until the Super Bowl.
 

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You said people aren't betting on pre-season games when he posted the plays he needed. Either you're wrong or BB is a liar. What does BB have to do with you saying that people aren't betting on Pre-Season or that you said people aren't betting on certain baseball teams? What does it have to do with it??????????? It has to do with him saying he needs games in pre-season to win and needs certain teams in baseball to win. It has everything to do with it. People are the same all over. People tend to bet the same teams everywhere. People still think the Yankees are really good all over because that's what the media talks about. People bet on Dallas all over the country because they are a glamour team. If you can't figure out what it has to do with anything then I don't know what to tell you.

once again, before you type .... please take a step back. take a deep breath. and read what was previously posted. what a local needs from his sample of guys is quite different from what an actual public side is. before you start typing, again... relax and think about that. there are times when local books will get heavy action ON their local teams. there are also times when local books will get heavy unbalanced action AGAINST their local teams. and sometimes, two books in the same city will write entirely different stuff on the same game ... and their shops are 20 minutes apart. thats where sample sizes start to play a role. consequently, 95% of the games dont even have a public side. again, before you start typing, read that. that doesnt mean certain books wont need a certain side. but when reasonable samples get involved, its pretty uncommon for the public to be truly heavy on more than a few games per week. those opportunities stick out like a sore thumb. and the books can see them coming a mile away.
 
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