Doug, without getting specific I can assure you what I'm saying is true and his group beat the you know what out of BetRoyal due to some nitwit old lady and not understanding its business. Is he a great tout? No he's not, but he had his moments. I only win when I don't follow anyone's picks, but I know some very sharp guys out there I would never want to book. Not one of them is a tout.
Doug, you trying to compare an Ace Ace type of guy to lets say BW or The Computer guys, and Russians ?? let's be fair here..... We are not talking about an Avg Joe...
And Edward will get his plays in, after that...anyone else can't even touch the line
so you can't even go there.... but after a while a Shop will Boot you from their shop just for playing along.
As you know, there are Different type of Shops out there.... one for the Avg Joe and one that will take "wiseguy" action.
Go to most of these Post Up shops websites, and they will tell you ! it's Listed in their Rules.
They know the difference between someone "Following" the Plays and the ones that are apart of the "Play"
and This I know for a Fact.
ANYWAY.................................................
Just received an Email from someone.......which I will keep to myself
I Don't know this Person, but I guess someone is Reading this Thread, and found my Contact info through the RX.
Here is the Email, Word for Word.
The Truth About Sebastian:
I've have worked with Sebastian for several years. I am surprised to hear about his arrest, but at the same time, if it happened to anyone, it makes sense it would of happened to him.
Sebastian is a tout, and a bad one at that. IMHO, It is essentially to fund his gambling habit, but that is my observation not fact. Beside hockey, I do not see anything special about his insight that justifies people paying him information. Sebastian does rely on others. He does buy other handicappers plays. Even to the extent, he will buy someone elses plays, throw a huge rating unit on it, and tout it as a Game of the Year or whatever he wants to name it. My personal feeling about it is: people that pay for picks should be at least getting it from the horses mouth, not 2nd handed, but again that's my opinion. However, in 2010, he has slowed down buying from other touts in 2010 because of cash flow issues. There was a time where he was purchasing multiple plays from multiple handicappers daily. With that said, not every play he releases is someone elses. He does have his own opinions and makes his own picks.
Given the fact he is a tout, there are certain things that amazed me about him.
He whines about losing yet continues to purchase from the same people. He will talk to customer service reps of the touts he buys from and complain about the plays. At times even before the play losses. I can only hope that his clients do it to him and that's why he does it to others. On top of it all, he is a compulsive gambler. He has absolutely NO bankroll management. He goes broke several times a year to the point he can't even bet on his own games even though he wants to. It's amazing how he is giving other people advice, and he is the worst of all the types of gamblers. However, IMO, Sebastian doesn't view himself as a loser. He has an elitist attitude. He has run up debts and tries to get out of them. Not Opinion, but fact: He is a stiff.
I don't know if he had a bookmaking operation that some people are speculating. He could of been part of one, but if I had to guess, he wasn't running one. I do know he is a stiff. He bets over his head. He has absolutely NO bankroll management, and the fact he is a tout is unbelievable to me. If I had to guess, I would guess its mainly the IRS he is in trouble with, but it doesn't have to do with claiming gambling winnings because Sebastian is a loser.
Just received an Email from someone.......which I will keep to myself
I Don't know this Person, but I guess someone is Reading this Thread, and found my Contact info through the RX.
Here is the Email, Word for Word.
The Truth About Sebastian:
I've have worked with Sebastian for several years. I am surprised to hear about his arrest, but at the same time, if it happened to anyone, it makes sense it would of happened to him.
Sebastian is a tout, and a bad one at that. IMHO, It is essentially to fund his gambling habit, but that is my observation not fact. Beside hockey, I do not see anything special about his insight that justifies people paying him information. Sebastian does rely on others. He does buy other handicappers plays. Even to the extent, he will buy someone elses plays, throw a huge rating unit on it, and tout it as a Game of the Year or whatever he wants to name it. My personal feeling about it is: people that pay for picks should be at least getting it from the horses mouth, not 2nd handed, but again that's my opinion. However, in 2010, he has slowed down buying from other touts in 2010 because of cash flow issues. There was a time where he was purchasing multiple plays from multiple handicappers daily. With that said, not every play he releases is someone elses. He does have his own opinions and makes his own picks.
Given the fact he is a tout, there are certain things that amazed me about him.
He whines about losing yet continues to purchase from the same people. He will talk to customer service reps of the touts he buys from and complain about the plays. At times even before the play losses. I can only hope that his clients do it to him and that's why he does it to others. On top of it all, he is a compulsive gambler. He has absolutely NO bankroll management. He goes broke several times a year to the point he can't even bet on his own games even though he wants to. It's amazing how he is giving other people advice, and he is the worst of all the types of gamblers. However, IMO, Sebastian doesn't view himself as a loser. He has an elitist attitude. He has run up debts and tries to get out of them. Not Opinion, but fact: He is a stiff.
I don't know if he had a bookmaking operation that some people are speculating. He could of been part of one, but if I had to guess, he wasn't running one. I do know he is a stiff. He bets over his head. He has absolutely NO bankroll management, and the fact he is a tout is unbelievable to me. If I had to guess, I would guess its mainly the IRS he is in trouble with, but it doesn't have to do with claiming gambling winnings because Sebastian is a loser.
Not saying that. Books Still take BW wagers..... QT wagers, Russians Wagers.....everyone's
But there are Book that DON'T take that kind of action. and the Above two would fall in the "Don't" Books.
Do you think that every Book could take all these guys action...all at the same Time ?
You think BW has a bunch of Post Up shops that he betting into ?
You think they all can find a Local to bet into ? even if they do, it wouldn't last long !
And they wouldn't take the action that they "Want" to put down.
The problem get's to be this.......
Let's say You know a guy that is part of BW's Crew.... he going to Share the Info with you.
#1 Ten out of ten times you won't be able to get the same number
#2 You won't find a place that will Take Huge $$ bets
#2a even if you do, you don't think after a while they will figure it out
#3 after they figure out what you are doing... You are GONE
3#a It's their Choice, they can Kick you to the curb at any time
4,5,6,7,8,9,10 ...... Books will Share Info. When these guys hit a game, 9 out 10 know about it.
Then you will see the Lines change Across the Board.
I've known Sebastian for years, we became friends when I worked at a sister radio station. The above letter comes from someone who knows what they are talking about. I know Sebastian has released other plays as his own. I have been with him when he has busted out, and I have more than one local tell me know one would take his action because he always used to stiff locals for several thousand.
Saying that, I dont believe that he was part of a booking operation, just not his style. Will be interesting to see how this pans out, he may have just gotten caught in someones cross hairs
