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Kiss1 · Jan 15, 2005

Patrick McIrish said:
For those discussing tips, no tournament player in the world is going to tip 10%?

I worked as a poker prop for seven years in three differant card rooms. I didn't just "make up" that ten percent stuff.

If your share of a nightly tourney win was 600.00 it would not be unusual to toke 60.00 bucks. These are the type of bread and butter touneys that are played every night, 20.00 to 50.00 buy in's. Not that high stakes crap you see on TV.

Patrick McIrish .... Gambling Guru .... LMFAO

another comment ....

Hard work ?

Are you f*ucking kidding me ? These monkeys average out over 25.00 an hour, let them go hang dry wall, work concrete, paint or work in a factory. Poker dealing is an easy piece of cheese. The list of dealers clammering to get into Wynn's new joint is a mile long. I know alot of them.

Kiss1 · Jan 15, 2005

wantitall4moi said:
But calling it free and saying you are 'collecting' for the dealers seems back door for sure. It isn't the amount, it is the principle. The guys that would pay it anyways would pay the entry fee, but be up front about it.

Holy S*it .... Want and Kiss1 agree on something !

That's a first eh buddy ?

:dancefool

PatrickMcIrish · Jan 15, 2005

Fishhead said:
Pat- Some observations on your comments.

1. Show is boring for those that have been associated with gambling, mainly high stakes poker, such as yourself.

2. Very hard to tip dealers a decent amount at certain tournaments that allready take-out an embarrassing amount off the top. Have you seen these tourneys offered up at the Hard Rock in Tampa? Its an outrage, what a joke..........some 20-25% off the top.

Fish, not sure why but it could be because I used to play a lot of cards. Whatever it is it didn't hold my interest. As for the Hard Rock you are dead on, there's a reason you have never seen me in there playing. If people go to be social (translation - piss their money away) and have a good time that's one thing, but anyone who's halfway serious is not going to be playing poker in there the way it's set up right now. The rake on live games is pathetic enough with those sort of stakes, the take out on those tournaments is just legalized stealing. For the record I haven't been in there in quite a while but doubt it's changed very much.

Kiss - a $600 winner may well leave 10%, he could leave 3 bills if he wanted to. I was talking about bigger tournaments that would attract professionals. The figure of between 1 - 2% is pretty common for pro's that make their living off the game in a decent sized tournament that would attract them. Not all tournaments are the same though, that's why many players/dealers/house people have tried to standardize something for quite a while when it comes to tips. Personally even in the smaller stakes I think leaving 10% of a win is overtipping but each to his own.

Kiss1 · Jan 15, 2005

Patrick McIrish said:
Kiss - a $600 winner may well leave 10%, he could leave 3 bills if he wanted to. I was talking about bigger tournaments that would attract professionals. The figure of between 1 - 2% is pretty common for pro's that make their living off the game in a decent sized tournament that would attract them. Not all tournaments are the same though, that's why many players/dealers/house people have tried to standardize something for quite a while when it comes to tips. Personally even in the smaller stakes I think leaving 10% of a win is overtipping but each to his own.

Originally Posted by Patrick McIrish
For those discussing tips, no tournament player in the world is going to tip 10%?

1cheater · Jan 16, 2005

I had a similiar experience at Circus Circus with a poker tourney that was arranged for a private party (around 35 players) At the end of the tourney the poker room manager put the top 5 winners in a very uncomfortable situation by asking if we would throw the dealers a little somthing extra! I was phucking pissed, it's not about the money, it's about the tactic that was used to put people in a uncomfortable situation if they did not want to tip out the extra cash... I probably should explain that part of the tourney entry fee was to go for the dealers as a tip... Here's this moron trying to strong arm the winners at the end for more; totally classless move....

I don't put your situation with the RX tourney in that catagorie, but pretty close...I totally understand where Kiss is coming from. He fealt strong armed into paying the fee that was not agreed upon before the "FREE TOURNEY" The RX brought a shhit load of action to that casino; strong arming people for $20 probably put a bad taste in most of the player's mouth's (although most of them would probably not admit to that)

I thought "Tilt" was a complete piece of shhit~! and a waste of time