Let me get my thoughts together ... I've been playing with WagerStreet for just over a month and a half, if memory serves me correctly. All has been well up until yesterday.
On Monday, February 10, 2004, I made a small play on the Utah Jazz + 7 vs. Portland Trailblazers (NBA Overnight line) for $400.00. On Tuesday, February 11, 2004, I made an even smaller play on Portland - 4 - 120. Was I trying to middle? Of course. Absolutely. Why not? The $400.00 play won, and the $120.00 play (juice) lost. Tuesday, sometime during the day, I received an e-mail saying my bonus had been removed, because professional players, steam players or wise guys are not offered bonuses. That's fine with me. But what they didn't tell me is my wagering limit had been reduced to $200.00 per game. If I wanted to wager more than $200.00 per game, I had to get approval. I understand it's there book and they can do business as they choose, but at least notify me in writing that my limit has been reduced.
Tonight, Wednesday, February 12, 2004, I made several wagers, some for the entire game and some for the second half. What gets me is, I was approved to wager $300.00 on some games in the 2nd half, but only $200.00 on some games in the 2nd half as well. The games that I was denied a wager on for $300.00 or more (after waiting for approval), I could wager $200.00 on them, only after the line had moved. In other words, I had tipped my hand.
2 games that stand out ... Michigan vs. Minnesota (2nd half wager - WSTREET had Michigan - 3). I placed a wager on Minnesota + 3 for the 2nd half for $200.00 at 9:02 p.m. EST. I received an e-mail at 9:14 p.m. EST saying my wager had been canceled because the wrong team was favored. Fine by me. No complaints.
Illinois State vs. Evansville (2nd half wager - WSTREET had Evansville - 3.5). I placed a wager on Illinois State + 3.5 for the 2nd half for $200.00 at 9:05 p.m. EST. The bet was not canceled as they sent an e-mail saying they would have to eat this one. Illinois State + 3.5 lost. I lost $220.00. Fine.
Here is my problem. After speaking with the manager tonight, who was VERY rude, he said the reason WHY my Minnesota University bet was canceled was because they caught it before the 2nd half had started, which is NOT correct. He said it's their policy to allow bets to stand if they don't catch them in time. That being said, he went back on his word after I protested and said the Michigan/Minnesota 2nd half game had already started when I received the e-mail saying my wager had been cancelled. He said, well it could have been no more than 1 or 2 minutes gone in the 2nd half, so we did not know the outcome. EXACTLY, my point. The Illinois State 2nd half had already started as well, which that bet lost and my Minnesota U. bet had won, but I am only getting credit for a lost. He then went on to lecture me about "karma" and I am getting exactly as I deserve. Perhaps, but I didn't know a policy could change 180 degrees while I am on the phone with him. You can draw your own conclusions as to whether or not I was trying to take advantage of those 2 games, but remember they were only for $200.00 each and both games HAD started by the time I was notified. The loser was not cancelled, the winner was.
He then proceded to tell me that he didn't know if I was a new player or not, probably not he said, but I am getting exactly what I deserve. He said you shouldn't do this to sportsbooks. I said, well I have at least 5 or 6 different online accounts and I have never had a problem with any of them. He said, well I have about 60 to 70 different accounts and I am going to notify each and everyone of them about you. I said that's fine, you do what you have to do.
Needless to say, my account has been closed. Don't get me wrong, I KNOW I have to accept a MAJORITY of the responsibility here, but I do NOT like the way I was treated, nor do I like the way the situation was handled.
I know I may catch some flack on here, but I have been 100 % honest and truthful about the events that had taken place. While I may or may not have tried to take advantage of the two - 2nd half lines in question, the policy should be the SAME. If you don't catch when the 2nd half starts, either cancel both wagers or allow both to stand. Don't pick and choose and don't lecture me about karma. They basically stole $220.00 from my account. Perhaps I am getting what I deserve, but they need to be FAIR and not change their policy to their advantage.
Waiting to feel the heat ...
Chalkeater
On Monday, February 10, 2004, I made a small play on the Utah Jazz + 7 vs. Portland Trailblazers (NBA Overnight line) for $400.00. On Tuesday, February 11, 2004, I made an even smaller play on Portland - 4 - 120. Was I trying to middle? Of course. Absolutely. Why not? The $400.00 play won, and the $120.00 play (juice) lost. Tuesday, sometime during the day, I received an e-mail saying my bonus had been removed, because professional players, steam players or wise guys are not offered bonuses. That's fine with me. But what they didn't tell me is my wagering limit had been reduced to $200.00 per game. If I wanted to wager more than $200.00 per game, I had to get approval. I understand it's there book and they can do business as they choose, but at least notify me in writing that my limit has been reduced.
Tonight, Wednesday, February 12, 2004, I made several wagers, some for the entire game and some for the second half. What gets me is, I was approved to wager $300.00 on some games in the 2nd half, but only $200.00 on some games in the 2nd half as well. The games that I was denied a wager on for $300.00 or more (after waiting for approval), I could wager $200.00 on them, only after the line had moved. In other words, I had tipped my hand.
2 games that stand out ... Michigan vs. Minnesota (2nd half wager - WSTREET had Michigan - 3). I placed a wager on Minnesota + 3 for the 2nd half for $200.00 at 9:02 p.m. EST. I received an e-mail at 9:14 p.m. EST saying my wager had been canceled because the wrong team was favored. Fine by me. No complaints.
Illinois State vs. Evansville (2nd half wager - WSTREET had Evansville - 3.5). I placed a wager on Illinois State + 3.5 for the 2nd half for $200.00 at 9:05 p.m. EST. The bet was not canceled as they sent an e-mail saying they would have to eat this one. Illinois State + 3.5 lost. I lost $220.00. Fine.
Here is my problem. After speaking with the manager tonight, who was VERY rude, he said the reason WHY my Minnesota University bet was canceled was because they caught it before the 2nd half had started, which is NOT correct. He said it's their policy to allow bets to stand if they don't catch them in time. That being said, he went back on his word after I protested and said the Michigan/Minnesota 2nd half game had already started when I received the e-mail saying my wager had been cancelled. He said, well it could have been no more than 1 or 2 minutes gone in the 2nd half, so we did not know the outcome. EXACTLY, my point. The Illinois State 2nd half had already started as well, which that bet lost and my Minnesota U. bet had won, but I am only getting credit for a lost. He then went on to lecture me about "karma" and I am getting exactly as I deserve. Perhaps, but I didn't know a policy could change 180 degrees while I am on the phone with him. You can draw your own conclusions as to whether or not I was trying to take advantage of those 2 games, but remember they were only for $200.00 each and both games HAD started by the time I was notified. The loser was not cancelled, the winner was.
He then proceded to tell me that he didn't know if I was a new player or not, probably not he said, but I am getting exactly what I deserve. He said you shouldn't do this to sportsbooks. I said, well I have at least 5 or 6 different online accounts and I have never had a problem with any of them. He said, well I have about 60 to 70 different accounts and I am going to notify each and everyone of them about you. I said that's fine, you do what you have to do.
Needless to say, my account has been closed. Don't get me wrong, I KNOW I have to accept a MAJORITY of the responsibility here, but I do NOT like the way I was treated, nor do I like the way the situation was handled.
I know I may catch some flack on here, but I have been 100 % honest and truthful about the events that had taken place. While I may or may not have tried to take advantage of the two - 2nd half lines in question, the policy should be the SAME. If you don't catch when the 2nd half starts, either cancel both wagers or allow both to stand. Don't pick and choose and don't lecture me about karma. They basically stole $220.00 from my account. Perhaps I am getting what I deserve, but they need to be FAIR and not change their policy to their advantage.
Waiting to feel the heat ...
Chalkeater
