I get what he's saying, Trump goes to NY/CA and campaigns and he doesn't lose the popular vote by as big of a #. But that would be a massive waste of time for him and wouldn't improve his chances to win GE so why do it?
However, Trump did not win in a landslide. He won 3-4 states by 100k votes or whatever it was. Obama won in a real landslide in '08 and because of that, he could peel off support and still win in 2012. If Trump has support peeled off from him, he's going to lose in 2020.
No let's not.
The fact of the matter is, no President since 1824 has won a majority of the votes. So regardless, you would have a minority of the country deciding a President. I suspect most people want all states to have some representation instead of New York and California essentially deciding elections.
He's saying if he campaigns in NY/CA, it narrows the gap in the popular vote. It is not clear if he is saying Trump would WIN the popular vote (and if this is what he is insinuating, that is a highly dubious claim)
Either way, he didn't win the election in a landslide. He won it by 100k votes in 3-4 swing states.
Why is this so hard for you to undestand? I'll never know.
Uh, no it's not what he's saying. You two are dense.
No, pretty sure he won by a LANDSLIDE - it was a blowout - when you don't campaign in NY and CA because there is no way you can win those states you lose the state like you were already going to do and then you get blown out in the popular vote in those states which is meaningless - if Trump campaigned in NY in CA he wins the popular vote easily - whoopie doo - he was wise to focus on PA, FL and OH
CA and NY had over 20 million votes and Clinton won the overall by just under 3 million.
Ya, I re-read his post. You're right he did say that, he's saying he would win the popular vote. Lol @ that but there is no way to test it and who really cares, it is immaterial.
Either way, he didn't win in a LANDSLIDE and his margin for error is not that great. That much is clear.
He won the important swing states by a narrow margin.
Either way, he didn't win in a LANDSLIDE and his margin for error is not that great. That much is clear.
He won the important swing states by a narrow margin.
Well congratulations. What the hell is the matter with you two?
And I don't think it's a stretch by any imagination. He would have simply needed to get 15% more of the votes since those two states accounted for over 20 million. I have no idea if that would have happened if he campaigned in either, but it's not outrageous by any stretch of the imagination.
Seymour is pointing out how irrelevant to popular vote is, Trump didn't try to win the popular vote, he totally ignored the two largest states which always go democratic anyhow.
The democrats can win all the biggest cities by a total of 20 millions votes, they're not winning the electoral college without some appeal to middle america
My football analogy, the game is not won by the team that moves the ball at will between the 20's and settles for FG's, it's won by the team that scores TD's in the redzone
It's NOT about yardage, it's about scoring, and it's never going away
The democrats can win all the biggest cities by a total of 20 millions votes, they're not winning the electoral college without some appeal to middle america
My football analogy, the game is not won by the team that moves the ball at will between the 20's and settles for FG's, it's won by the team that scores TD's in the redzone
It's NOT about yardage, it's about scoring, and it's never going away
I read a post, replied and missed a part where he said something. Doesn't change the fact he didn't win in a landslide. His margin for error to what he can have peeled off is not that of say Obama in '12.
If he campaigns in those places in some alternate universe, then he could lose votes elsewhere as well. Time to campaign is finite. But all of that is largely semantics as to what will happen in 2020.
Of course he is, but you know these snowflakes. It's amazing how a system has been put in place to give a fair representation to all states and has been used for years, but two years later, these snowflakes are still whining about a loss and want to change an equitable system just because they didn't get their way. Whaaah.
