This Gov't shutdown will cost Trump re-election !

[PatsFanatic]

Im not against putting up barriers in areas of high traffic, but to think just putting up a wall completely along our southern border will solve all this is a bit naive. The drug cartel smuggles much if not most of their drugs right thru our POE, so a wall won’t stop the drugs from flowing in. If you think the drug lords will just close up shop because of a wall, we’ll that just won’t happen. Another problem is a very large percentage of immigrants come here legally but then overstay their welcome by not completing the process, just stay here illegally and we do nothing about it. Those are 2 big problems a wall won’t fix. Standing there yelling, “We need a wall” over and over again saying it will solve the problem isn’t the right way.

I agree a wall won't solve all the immigration problems, not by a long shot.
However, it will make entry more difficult, and thats all its really supposed to do. People and drugs will find other ways, but it will make it harder.

My problem with the left is that 5.4B or whatever he's asking for is small potatoes. And with their history of flip flopping on this subject, it's really about Trump more than anything else.

With that being said I believe in Democracy and the landowners on the border should have direct input on whether a wall goes up on their property or not.
If a landowner wants one, they should get it. If they don't, then don't build on their property.

 

[Michelangelo]

Anyone who thinks that our immigration system isn't broken is just someone who is completely dishonest or of a very low intellect.

Trump wants to fix the whole thing. But the wall must be part of the negotiation. Solid border security comes first. All else follows.

He sat in the White House on Christmas Eve in an attempt to show how serious he is about getting the negotiations underway. Congressional leadership refuse to sit down in good faith to get a solution that is good for the citizens of the country, our country.

So who is being the adult and who are being the obstinate, spoiled children?

We need to fix the whole problem. Demand that your leadership negotiate a solution. The President is waiting.

 

[KennyB]

We need bigtime border security and a wall will work. We can't continue to allow illegal aliens to cross the border at staggering numbers. We have wave after wave of illegal aliens headed our way. The cost to our society is too great to sit quietly and allow it to continue. The Democrats don't do anything to stop it and encourage it with their sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies and with their offers of free health care for all. Pelosi is a fucking moron. She should come to the table with a huge wish list, including DACA reform, infrastructure projects and whatever other pork she can come up with and tell Trump if he wants a border wall this is what she wants. Whatever happened to compromise, which includes give and take. It is unbelievable to me that the Dems haven't tried getting everything they want. The answer is that the Dems have no real platform other than blocking Trump.

 

[PatsFanatic]

So who is being the adult and who are being the obstinate, spoiled children?

For sure those two knuckleheads are the problem. They don't want to give and take, just take.

If they are not capable of getting beyond their hatred for the man, then they shouldn't be in that position.

 

[wabashwonders]

Anyone who thinks that our immigration system isn't broken is just someone who is completely dishonest or of a very low intellect.

Trump wants to fix the whole thing. But the wall must be part of the negotiation. Solid border security comes first. All else follows.

He sat in the White House on Christmas Eve in an attempt to show how serious he is about getting the negotiations underway. Congressional leadership refuse to sit down in good faith to get a solution that is good for the citizens of the country, our country.

So who is being the adult and who are being the obstinate, spoiled children?

We need to fix the whole problem. Demand that your leadership negotiate a solution. The President is waiting.

The wall will take many years if not decades to complete. Land owners will fight in court to save their land. As stated above, the wall will not fix existing problems we have now. They should be addressed also but are not. For someone who is supposed to be a great negotiator, Trump is not presenting his case very well.

 

[bigbet1234]

that's like saying a prison shouldn't have walls they just need more prison guards

good thinking

Ok, great analogy.

 

[bigbet1234]

No, lots of people don’t quit the military after 12 years. That’s an absurd opinion and not remotely accurate. Most separate after their first enlistment period is up.

I know I’m blocked, but you are god damn annoying

 

[Piantini]

President Trump is the Master of Diversions! I believe he deserves credit for his excellence in dominating the topic of the day as he keeps the focus off of him and onto things that he wants in the forefront of our attention! Good Job Mister President! Hopefully ‘Our Wall’ will last as long as China’s!

 

[wabashwonders]

who is telling you that ALL we need is a wall ? no one..

Trump is. He says we need a wall to stop the drug crisis. A wall won’t do that. It will take many many years to build a wall. What do we do in the mean time? He needs to bring up other points other than “Build a walk or else!” That will get him no where.

 

[REDEYE]

Trump is. He says we need a wall to stop the drug crisis. A wall won’t do that. It will take many many years to build a wall. What do we do in the mean time? He needs to bring up other points other than “Build a walk or else!” That will get him no where.

not true at all.. another foolish comment by you...Trump is for the wall and anything that will help secure the border.. not having barriers at the border is a major problem . most can see that

 

[wabashwonders]

not true at all.. another foolish comment by you...Trump is for the wall and anything that will help secure the border..

You show me one quote by Trump where he talks about the 2 problems I mentioned above and what he will do to fix it? All he talks about is his wall and that’s it. He hasn’t said anything about the actual problem except that the wall is what we need. Let me know when you find the quotes I asked for.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

The wall is flat stupid.

There are many that still drink the kool aid he pours, that’s sad. I’d rather have him than Hillary but he’s gonna piss the wrong person off. All about his narcissism, not the people of the USA

I'm wondering who that person is. Do you know?

 

[REDEYE]

You show me one quote by Trump where he talks about the 2 problems I mentioned above and what he will do to fix it? All he talks about is his wall and that’s it. He hasn’t said anything about the actual problem except that the wall is what we need. Let me know when you find the quotes I asked for.

not having barriers at the border is the biggest problem. we have everything else.. I guess I should act like Pelosi and you and not pay attention to what the border agents and Homeland Security are telling us.. apparently they have no clue either.... clueless... move on to something else if you can

 

[REDEYE]

Trump is. He says we need a wall to stop the drug crisis. A wall won’t do that. It will take many many years to build a wall. What do we do in the mean time? He needs to bring up other points other than “Build a walk or else!” That will get him no where.

maybe we shouldn't build anything if it takes to long.. just fuckn dumb...

 

[wabashwonders]

not having barriers at the border is the biggest problem. we have everything else.. I guess I should act like Pelosi and you and not pay attention to what the border agents and Homeland Security are telling us.. apparently they have no clue either.... clueless... move on to something else if you can

You think building a wall will stop the drugs from flowing in? Lol

 

[wabashwonders]

maybe we shouldn't build anything if it takes to long.. just fuckn dumb...

I didn’t say that. What I said basically was improve the things that need improving that have nothing to do with a wall. Because if you don’t fix those problems, a walk is useless. Oh it might cut back a little, but won’t solve the existing 2 problems I mentioned which are huge problems. But you don’t seem to want to discuss that. Wonder why.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

You show me one quote by Trump where he talks about the 2 problems I mentioned above and what he will do to fix it? All he talks about is his wall and that’s it. He hasn’t said anything about the actual problem except that the wall is what we need. Let me know when you find the quotes I asked for.

PatsFanatic said it best... it's really about Trump more than anything else.

That statement personifies every argument you make.

 

[REDEYE]

I didn’t say that. What I said basically was improve the things that need improving that have nothing to do with a wall. Because if you don’t fix those problems, a walk is useless. Oh it might cut back a little, but won’t solve the existing 2 problems I mentioned which are huge problems. But you don’t seem to want to discuss that. Wonder why.

and you want to ignore what Homeland Security and the Border Patrol agents tell us.. discuss that !

 

[Seymour]

Don’t know, but I don’t think a wall is it. You could amp up border patrol a bunch for 5 billion.

We gave/released or whatever you want to call it 50 billion plus to Iran - this 5 Billion is like me coughing up $5 - now a fence is immoral? just build the fucken wall - this is all theatrics by the dems - Trump won the election - like in a landslide - his focal point was building a wall on the southern border - this is what the people voted for - we are talking about an insignificant amount of money - Trumps claim to fame is the economy (and peace) - everyone knows his behavior is unbecoming of a President - but it is accepted because we have economic opportunity and peace - before we had no jobs riddled with wars - Pelosi and her crew are looking to destroy the economy as it's Trumps saving grace - they would destroy our country at the sake of getting Trump out

 

[Seymour]

You think building a wall will stop the drugs from flowing in? Lol

It certainly ain't gonna make it any easier